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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2015.05.07 01:11:00 -
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Unlike EVE, it's only a one time payment of ~36k AUR to lift restrictions.
Trial account limitations in Eve.
The big point to consider is are we now in a state of 'pay-to-exploit' or 'pay-to-progress-faster' ? If a player must pay to pool more resources passively through alt farming, how is CCP likely to respond? The practice now helps the bottom line.
Dust 514 Market Trello. The essential resource for trading in Dust.
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Archduke Ferd1nand
Nos Nothi
419
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Posted - 2015.05.07 01:13:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:Unlike EVE, it's only a one time payment of ~36k AUR to lift restrictions. Trial account limitations in Eve.The big point to consider is are we now in a state of 'pay-to-exploit' or 'pay-to-progress-faster' ? If a player must pay to pool more resources passively through alt farming, how is CCP likely to respond? The practice now helps the bottom line.
You still need to play on your alts tho, so unless you consider Dust a full time job, its not worth it.
BRB, looking for socks
PSN: tommygunboy2080
I shit shotgun shells and piss Remote Explosives
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DUST Fiend
16862
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Posted - 2015.05.07 01:18:00 -
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The only reason this is even an issue is because some people made a **** load of alts to collect the rewards from the newsletter and what not.
If not for that, who would even care if new players could trade? Not like they'd have anything worth trading in the first place. So, as usual, exploiters ruin it for honest players 
"When in doubt, dropship out"
If you see me, bring AV to collect ISK
DUST STUFF
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Tiny Pineapple
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
227
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Posted - 2015.05.07 01:23:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:Unlike EVE, it's only a one time payment of ~36k AUR to lift restrictions. Trial account limitations in Eve.The big point to consider is are we now in a state of 'pay-to-exploit' or 'pay-to-progress-faster' ? If a player must pay to pool more resources passively through alt farming, how is CCP likely to respond? The practice now helps the bottom line.
Were these restrictions in EVE in place from the start? If so, there's the problem. Dust never had these restrictions behind a paywall and now, all of sudden, CCP puts them in place under the reasoning of "stopping exploits" even though donating to corp wallet gets around this. All this does is put a very unique feature in FPSes behind a paywall.
You can't handle all this synergy.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
6067
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Posted - 2015.05.07 01:33:00 -
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Tiny Pineapple wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote:Unlike EVE, it's only a one time payment of ~36k AUR to lift restrictions. Trial account limitations in Eve.The big point to consider is are we now in a state of 'pay-to-exploit' or 'pay-to-progress-faster' ? If a player must pay to pool more resources passively through alt farming, how is CCP likely to respond? The practice now helps the bottom line. Were these restrictions in EVE in place from the start? If so, there's the problem. Dust never had these restrictions behind a paywall and now, all of sudden, CCP puts them in place under the reasoning of "stopping exploits" even though donating to corp wallet gets around this. All this does is put a very unique feature in FPSes behind a paywall.
Agreed. While it's nice to be able to log in and have money to play with. As players have brought up before, if the ISK generation aspect of the warbarge is the issue let's remove that and move to an end of public match bonus payout system...of something similar.
Dust 514 Market Trello. The essential resource for trading in Dust.
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Juno Tristan
Obscure Reference
596
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Posted - 2015.05.07 02:35:00 -
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Tiny Pineapple wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote:Unlike EVE, it's only a one time payment of ~36k AUR to lift restrictions. Trial account limitations in Eve.The big point to consider is are we now in a state of 'pay-to-exploit' or 'pay-to-progress-faster' ? If a player must pay to pool more resources passively through alt farming, how is CCP likely to respond? The practice now helps the bottom line. Were these restrictions in EVE in place from the start? If so, there's the problem. Dust never had these restrictions behind a paywall and now, all of sudden, CCP puts them in place under the reasoning of "stopping exploits" even though donating to corp wallet gets around this. All this does is put a very unique feature in FPSes behind a paywall.
You can still receive items and send isk through corps so I don't see the issue
Yeah you can't sell things but isk can be generated by playing the game
ADS Ramming Revenge!
Plasma Cannon Rampage
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Lac Nokomis
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
76
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Posted - 2015.05.07 02:39:00 -
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Very interesting. A lot to think about with this thread. Good point with the whole "What would CCP do anyways?" line of thought |
Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.05.07 11:15:00 -
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No one needed trading for 2.5 to 3 years.
That's not a big deal.
Sending ISK. Well.. people under rank 4 don't have much to send anyway.
Caldari Loyalist
thecreaturehub fan
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
4584
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Posted - 2015.05.07 11:29:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:No one needed trading for 2.5 to 3 years.
That's not a big deal.
Sending ISK. Well.. people under rank 4 don't have much to send anyway.
Everybody asked for trading since 2.5 to 3 years.
There are plenty of ways to avoid exploit and scams, but the only thing done has been a put a paywall.
But that is not the main problem we are discussing, unlike EVE, Dust is supposed to be a free to play, i've never had problems with boosters, aur gear or any other thing which cost money.
But what they are doing now is cut a part of the game for some players, instead of add more stuff for people who want to buy things.
Simple trading is not secondary or complex, there is no need for restriction imo.
Shaman's Shack - A place to trade
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