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Banjo Robertson
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.05.06 20:32:00 -
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Not talking breach burst or tactical, just the regular assault rifle.
Whenever I run a regular AR on my gallente dropsuits, it only feels right when I'm using it on my commando. Sentinel of course feels strange using an AR on a heavy suit. I don't notice much difference between my scout, assault, or logi suits using an AR, but on a commando, the extra 10% damage and the faster reload speed really make it feel right. Even if I use damage mods on my other suits it doesnt feel as good as on my commando suits (even if I dont use a damage mod on the commando)
Combat rifle feels right on any suit I use, Rail Rifle feels right on any suit I use, but the darn Assault Rifle only feels right on a commando, and I think its the combo of damage and reload speed that do it
This kind of leads me to my assumption that it needs a boost in RoF and an equal boost in clip size (to make the time per clip the same just with more rounds fired), rather than a direct damage boost. Boosting the damage of the AR throws off the damage even more when you take into account damage boosts from weapon mods, warbarge bonus, role bonus from commando, and operation skill.
This is what I think would make the assault rifle feel right in the hands of all of the gallente suits, and yeah sure it would be even more beast mode in a commando, but its a short range weapon and the commando is about as fast as a manatee, I don't think it would become too powerful overall in those hands, but yes it would be better.
Anyone else have thoughts on this? Does the regular AR feel right on any suits to you? which ones? |
Eruditus 920
Nemo Malus Felix
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Posted - 2015.05.06 20:38:00 -
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I have a proto Gal Assault fit with a maxed AR.
I have a proto Min Assault fit with a maxed ACR.
Both have damage mods.
I like using both.
But for me, the Min/ACR is substantially better at killing all suits quickly.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Back and Forth
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Posted - 2015.05.06 20:45:00 -
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i use a std AR on my stealth hacking min scout suit. works well with my nova knifes as AR packs a bunch and does not take up much fitting room.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.05.06 20:46:00 -
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The AR feels right when going up against shield tanked opponents at short range...
...which is to say practically never.
Therefore, the real issue is not the AR or its performance, but the overarching superiority of armor and its prevalence when compared to shields which results in the AR being a solution to a problem that rarely exists.
IMO, of course.  |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2015.05.06 20:56:00 -
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I'm not fond of the AR line. it gets outperformed by all of the others to the point where I run it to remind myself why I don't run it
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Cursed Faith
Paladin Survey Force
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.05.06 21:07:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:i use a std AR on my stealth hacking min scout suit. works well with my nova knifes as AR packs a bunch and does not take up much fitting room.
You use a sexual transmited diease Assault Rifle???
Do you wash your hands after use?
Amarr Alt of Golden Day.
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DDx77
OUTCAST MERCS
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.05.06 22:09:00 -
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I have been using the Duvolle with my Amar assault and it only feels effective when I have at least multiple dmg mods on it
I'm still getting used to the range but I swear if I'm out of optimal whether too close or far it feels a bit mediocre vs the CR
Maybe increase the dmg output to shields a bit? Or increase clip size?
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Forever ETC
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1040
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Posted - 2015.05.06 22:18:00 -
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DDx77 wrote:I have been using the Duvolle with my Amar assault and it only feels effective when I have at least multiple dmg mods on it
I'm still getting used to the range but I swear if I'm out of optimal whether too close or far it feels a bit mediocre vs the CR
Maybe increase the dmg output to shields a bit? Or increase clip size?
I stopped at Duvolle on my Amarr Assualt
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2015.05.07 00:04:00 -
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For the strangest reason, the militia assault rifle is probably the most effective weapon I have ever used in the game. Yes pro weapons can shred and tear, but nothing feels better than the militia assault rifle. Why? I don't know. I do know that I hav confronted pro assaults and heavies with it and somehow killed them. And it isn't even a simple kill. When you kill with pro, it feels, I don't know, like, crappy, but the militia Feels so satisfying and smooth and strong.
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Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
1458
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Posted - 2015.05.07 00:08:00 -
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gal assault , gotta have that AR on it. I like to breach on my logis |
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JIMvc2
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2015.05.07 00:25:00 -
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The Duvolle Assault Rifle = She never fails me that I win 9 out of 10 gun fights = Good.
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Songs of Seraphim
Negative-Feedback
760
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Posted - 2015.05.07 00:35:00 -
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I have no issue killing with it up to around 45-55 meters.
Especially shield suits.
The only issue is where it confronts armor tanked suits. Which is MOST OF THE DAMN META.
The plasma rifles are fine, but since there aren't enough shield suits in this game because "lol shields", they seem underpowered.
As an aside, even the dual tanked Minmatar armor stack. Except the scouts.
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
3900
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Posted - 2015.05.07 00:36:00 -
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Defo feels right on commando.
On other suits, at ~15-20 meters. Any closer and it doesn't do much, damage application is spotty.
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KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
1500
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Posted - 2015.05.07 00:41:00 -
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Chromosome.
Perfect was the release before that.
My favorite tank is a Lightning. Just sayin.
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VAHZZ
Arrary of Clusters
1758
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Posted - 2015.05.07 00:59:00 -
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I use the ar all the time, especially on a gal scout. AR with nova knives is a pretty good combo. Or AR and Shotty on a Black Eagle Scout. Nothing is wrong with the AR, it is a good weapon.
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Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge
No Context
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Posted - 2015.05.07 01:35:00 -
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Songs of Seraphim wrote:I have no issue killing with it up to around 45-55 meters.
Especially shield suits.
The only issue is where it confronts armor tanked suits. Which is MOST OF THE DAMN META.
The plasma rifles are fine, but since there aren't enough shield suits in this game because "lol shields", they seem underpowered.
As an aside, even the dual tanked Minmatar armor stack. Except the scouts.
This damage profile issue was dealt with on the ScR by just buffing it so its -20% against armor was competitive to the absolute detriment of shield suits.
I really hope they don't do this again....
In reality the CQC rifle of the game should be effective against armor more so then the long range ScR due to the AR having to deal with heavies...
My thoughts:
Buff the AR so it performs like to ScR and nerf the ScR to preform like the AR.
This will protect shield suits since the typically don't run CQC
You experts pick the %
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afkbeleiveit
Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd.
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Posted - 2015.05.07 01:58:00 -
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Bright Steel wrote:Songs of Seraphim wrote:I have no issue killing with it up to around 45-55 meters.
Especially shield suits.
The only issue is where it confronts armor tanked suits. Which is MOST OF THE DAMN META.
The plasma rifles are fine, but since there aren't enough shield suits in this game because "lol shields", they seem underpowered.
As an aside, even the dual tanked Minmatar armor stack. Except the scouts. This damage profile issue was dealt with on the ScR by just buffing it so its -20% against armor was competitive to the absolute detriment of shield suits. I really hope they don't do this again.... In reality the CQC rifle of the game should be effective against armor more so then the long range ScR due to the AR having to deal with heavies... My thoughts: Buff the AR so it performs like to ScR and nerf the ScR to preform like the AR. This will protect shield suits since the typically don't run CQC You experts pick the %
Hmm o kinda feel the same way but I think a better way to fix it to raise the base sheilds a bit on the caldari and slightly jusl slightly raise the amount of shield added from extenders
Btw I love using caldari for cqc the ar is effective on a basic assault for taking down a proto caldari with a rail rifle |
Satori Particle
Ordine Inritus
46
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Posted - 2015.05.07 02:18:00 -
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I think it needs a higher rate of fire. |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.07 02:54:00 -
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Banjo Robertson wrote:
Anyone else have thoughts on this?
Nerf brick?
Shoot scout with yes.
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