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Slave of MORTE
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Posted - 2015.05.05 17:30:00 -
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It's perfect in every way except scans give you trash for wp ..forcing the gal logi to step outside it's area of expertise to be financially viable ..
Please raise wp for Intel kills for gal logi only to 25 wp..This prohibits scanners from being used for harvesting wp on any suit but the gal logi ..and the gal logi bringing such awesome e scans and dedication should be rewarded with viable wp ..right ?
I'm her slave because amarrians are the best in the sheets #stamina
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.05 18:04:00 -
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I would really like that however if it would be team wide WP generation then it might become extremely popular and with that alot of forums complain towards it.
Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
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Vesta Opalus
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.05 18:06:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:I would really like that however if it would be team wide WP generation then it might become extremely popular and with that alot of forums complain towards it.
Gal Logi is already game breaking when abused for everyone but scouts. Plenty of complaints on it already, but heres another one just so I can prove your point ;d |
Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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Posted - 2015.05.05 18:12:00 -
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Yes please. +1
48th Special Operations Force.
Twitter- @48SOF
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Darkstalker Astrea
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.05.05 18:28:00 -
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Slave of MORTE wrote:It's perfect in every way except scans give you trash for wp ..forcing the gal logi to step outside it's area of expertise to be financially viable ..
Please raise wp for Intel kills for gal logi only to 25 wp..This prohibits scanners from being used for harvesting wp on any suit but the gal logi ..and the gal logi bringing such awesome e scans and dedication should be rewarded with viable wp ..right ?
Are. You. Joking?
The active scanner is so strong in this game and the Gal logi can make even adv scanners very usable
You literally can control the flow of the match and you don't have to be that good to do it
And you want moar WP for using the scrubiest tactic in this game which is spamming your Duvolle while you sit on your couch watching g a y p o r n?
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
953
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Posted - 2015.05.05 19:54:00 -
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Darkstalker Astrea wrote:Slave of MORTE wrote:It's perfect in every way except scans give you trash for wp ..forcing the gal logi to step outside it's area of expertise to be financially viable ..
Please raise wp for Intel kills for gal logi only to 25 wp..This prohibits scanners from being used for harvesting wp on any suit but the gal logi ..and the gal logi bringing such awesome e scans and dedication should be rewarded with viable wp ..right ?
Are. You. Joking? The active scanner is so strong in this game and the Gal logi can make even adv scanners very usable You literally can control the flow of the match and you don't have to be that good to do it And you want moar WP for using the scrubiest tactic in this game which is spamming your Duvolle while you sit on your couch watching g a y p o r n? C'mon man Morte is actually a woman. So what you describe would be some nice girl on girl action.
Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
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korrah silain
True Illuminate
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Posted - 2015.05.05 19:56:00 -
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I would say lower wp value to 10 and make it team wide might be a good balance. |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
2053
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Posted - 2015.05.05 19:57:00 -
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You know that scanners ONLY point out people that were not hiding from them in the first place right .?. and you / your team still have to do the work of killing these same right ?
You can see with your own eyes and that doesn't mean that you will kill who your looking at or your team mates will do the same .
Doubts are like bothersome flies and should be treated as such and crushed . #PubsShouldBeRandomPlayers
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Lupus Wolf
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.05.06 01:04:00 -
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korrah silain wrote:I would say lower wp value to 10 and make it team wide might be a good balance. Maybe even 5
"Dogfighting with missiles is like watching two armless kids try to catch a baseball." - Dust Fiend
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Slave of MORTE
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Posted - 2015.05.06 21:35:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:I would really like that however if it would be team wide WP generation then it might become extremely popular and with that alot of forums complain towards it. I agree with you the gal logi being a dedicated scanner should be just as rewarding as being a link layer ..i get 25 wp for spawns team wide i should get 25 wp for Intel kill assists
I'm her slave because amarrians are the best in the sheets #stamina
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Slave of MORTE
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Posted - 2015.05.06 21:39:00 -
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Darkstalker Astrea wrote:Slave of MORTE wrote:It's perfect in every way except scans give you trash for wp ..forcing the gal logi to step outside it's area of expertise to be financially viable ..
Please raise wp for Intel kills for gal logi only to 25 wp..This prohibits scanners from being used for harvesting wp on any suit but the gal logi ..and the gal logi bringing such awesome e scans and dedication should be rewarded with viable wp ..right ?
Are. You. Joking? The active scanner is so strong in this game and the Gal logi can make even adv scanners very usable You literally can control the flow of the match and you don't have to be that good to do it And you want moar WP for using the scrubiest tactic in this game which is spamming your Duvolle while you sit on your couch watching g a y p o r n? C'mon man I absolutely have zero interest in gay **** ....-_- as for why. because the role is not viable ..it does not perform or register on the wp scale like the other logis with full dedication ..i have min gal and amar abd while gal logi is 100 percent effective abd performs it's role excellently it gets **** for wp rewards without stepping well beyond it'd role ..which means newer players who use it in pubs will make less isk ..which makes it a harder role than it should be financially
Now for me with 8 proto roles and tanks i only use it as needed because I know it's not a money maker in any way but a new player that picks it up will forever find themselves with a lower average payout than a min or amar logi
I'm her slave because amarrians are the best in the sheets #stamina
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Slave of MORTE
446
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Posted - 2015.05.06 21:41:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:You know that scanners ONLY point out people that were not hiding from them in the first place right .?. and you / your team still have to do the work of killing these same right ?
You can see with your own eyes and that doesn't mean that you will kill who your looking at or your team mates will do the same .
Edit : I don't think that WP's that one receives from intel kills is the problem but receiving them on a constant basis is more of a problem just like transport points form DS's ... the mechanic is just not constant in meeting out the required WP's .
Sometimes you get them but for the most part you don't and if you do it's always far after the fact . I persistently get scan points it's just not viable wp scale fir a rough match with a full squad on both amar and min logi exceeds 3k..gals barely hit 1500.
I'm her slave because amarrians are the best in the sheets #stamina
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
4579
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Posted - 2015.05.06 21:53:00 -
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STD and ADV are way far from perfection, but at least they have equipment slots.
Shaman's Shack - A place to trade
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Slave of MORTE
447
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Posted - 2015.05.06 23:15:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:STD and ADV are way far from perfection, but at least they have equipment slots. Right but I feel using it gives very little battle rewards ...not enough to provide isk for its use unlike the other logis m which is why I never use it unless requested in pc
I'm her slave because amarrians are the best in the sheets #stamina
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
9469
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Posted - 2015.05.07 01:32:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:You know that scanners ONLY point out people that were not hiding from them in the first place right .?. Assaults need 3 complex damps to be proto GalLogi scans; this means they forego combat viability simply to beat permascan. I run 3 Creodon Flux scanners on my Logi gk.0. I'd run 4, but I only need 3 to permascan the vast majority of the map for the vast majority of the battle in Ambush, Dom or Acq.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Slave of MORTE
447
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Posted - 2015.05.07 07:51:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:You know that scanners ONLY point out people that were not hiding from them in the first place right .?. Assaults need 3 complex damps to be proto GalLogi scans; this means an entire team of Assaults must forego combat viability simply to beat team-wide permascan from one hostile unit. Except in Skirmish, where maps are a 'bit larger. I run 3 Creodon Flux scanners on my Logi gk.0. I'd run 4, but I only need 3 to permascan the majority of the battle for the duration of any Ambush, Dom or Acq match. I permascan matches at 21dB for my entire team from a comfy 600 HP. I could fit a 'bit more HP, but I run straight precision amps in my highs. My passives compete with any recon scout's, at twice their HP. Comparatively speaking, this unit's recon capabilities are better than any Scout's in the history of Dust, including the ones we nerfed for being OP. I spam overtly imbalanced, team-wide actives combined with extremely powerful squad-wide passives ... all the while whooping arse with a Combat Rifle and more Core Locus Nades than I could possibly need (thanks to my six X-3 hives). Slave of MORTE wrote:It's perfect in every way ...
I run GalLogi often; there's no doubt in my mind that it is overpowered. It isn't as broken as the MN Assault, but it is still broken. Its Active Scans are broken. Its Passive Scans are broken. The fact that it can be a scan god and simultaneously "whoop arse" is broken. But ... it is pretty dang expensive to run (likely too expensive) and you're right in that intel assists aren't paying enough WP. I don't consider it broken. ..
Just a different view of the sane coin min logi can rep over 100 hps. From over 34m..away..it can rep people on the ground from on top of building while simultaneously giving area support Fire with MD Amar logi can provide your entire teams with almost instantaneous spawns ..on a insanely massive level. .
The only logi I've never seen as awesome in its racial bonus us the cal. .. But imagine if cal hives had insane range lol ..normal resupply ..normal repair rates but giant circles of it ..and no if only resupply was rewarded better ..i never see cal logis used. ..it's like they don't exist
I'm her slave because amarrians are the best in the sheets #stamina
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
9475
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Posted - 2015.05.07 13:13:00 -
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Slave of MORTE wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:You know that scanners ONLY point out people that were not hiding from them in the first place right .?. Assaults need 3 complex damps to be proto GalLogi scans; this means an entire team of Assaults must forego combat viability simply to beat team-wide permascan from one hostile unit. Except in Skirmish, where maps are a 'bit larger. I run 3 Creodon Flux scanners on my Logi gk.0. I'd run 4, but I only need 3 to permascan the majority of the battle for the duration of any Ambush, Dom or Acq match. I permascan matches at 21dB for my entire team from a comfy 600 HP. I could fit a 'bit more HP, but I run straight precision amps in my highs. My passives compete with any recon scout's, at twice their HP. Comparatively speaking, this unit's recon capabilities are better than any Scout's in the history of Dust, including the ones we nerfed for being OP. I spam overtly imbalanced, team-wide actives combined with extremely powerful squad-wide passives ... all the while whooping arse with a Combat Rifle and more Core Locus Nades than I could possibly need (thanks to my six X-3 hives). Slave of MORTE wrote:It's perfect in every way ...
I run GalLogi often; there's no doubt in my mind that it is overpowered. It isn't as broken as the MN Assault, but it is still broken. Its Active Scans are broken. Its Passive Scans are broken. The fact that it can be a scan god and simultaneously "whoop arse" is broken. But ... it is pretty dang expensive to run (likely too expensive) and you're right in that intel assists aren't paying enough WP. I don't consider it broken. .. Just a different view of the sane coin min logi can rep over 100 hps. From over 34m..away..it can rep people on the ground from on top of building while simultaneously giving area support Fire with MD Amar logi can provide your entire teams with almost instantaneous spawns ..on a insanely massive level. . The only logi I've never seen as awesome in its racial bonus us the cal. .. But imagine if cal hives had insane range lol ..normal resupply ..normal repair rates but giant circles of it ..and no if only resupply was rewarded better ..i never see cal logis used. ..it's like they don't exist Completely agree about weaksauce CalLogis. As for scans, the whole point of kneecapping recon scouts last December was to do away with always-on recon. I fear we've failed in this goal in every conceivable way.
* Always-on Recon is now the norm in any competitive Ambush, Dom or Acq match. * Always-on Recon is now team-wide rather than squad-wide. * Always-on Recon can be achieved with as little as 1 unit / team (down from 1 unit / squad). * Always-on Recon is being served by combat-worthy units at far lower risk than before.
We were sold on an active game of hide-and-seek, which would've been great. But instead we got permascan.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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