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Evan Gotabor
Prima Gallicus
170
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Posted - 2015.05.02 06:59:00 -
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Here is how my connection looks like on my computer (wifi) and my dust character in his quarter. I'm using an ethernet cable on my PS3 so numbers have to be slightly better
@xxwhitedevilxx I'm curious, where did you get your numbers ?
xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Actually, it's the exact opposite. French connections are one of the fastest in Eu and in the world. An average of 40.6 Mbps in France with peaks in the Paris zone, around 80 Mbps average. By comparison, Germany, Spain and UK (around 30 Mbps), Poland (around 25 Mbps) and Italy ( around 10 Mbps ) are snails. It's also pretty renowned that if someone "doesn't take any damage" in any online FPS is not lagging: he's simply communicating with the server or the host faster than you.
@TheD1CK You forgot Mithril Forge on your list
Prima Gallicus diplomat
New Eden France, actualités Dust Eve et Valkyrie en français
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Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization
1710
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Posted - 2015.05.02 07:01:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:Metiu lags as bad as any of the Prima guys at times... hard to agree here.. But I do want better game performance on EU server so I propose a solution BAN - Prima Gallicus - Storm Fighters - Academy Inferno - Blauhelme - Black-Guard - Eliters Brotherhood - Dead Man's Game - The Rainbow Effect - Made In Poland - Last on Dust - Vacuum Cleaner - Gummibaerenbande 514 - Lux Aterna - Super Black Soul Saiyan - THIRD ROCK - Iberica Racing Team And any other corp that has the audacity to play on EU servers with EU players.. how dare they This may improve connections for the players from US/Asian Corps playing on the EU sever
LOL.
'LR4-Trading' Protester
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LT SHANKS
You In The Nutz
5769
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Posted - 2015.05.02 07:13:00 -
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If we're talking laggy matches, Kappa.514 is where it's at. |
The KTM DuKe
Gallente Federation
163
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Posted - 2015.05.02 07:22:00 -
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Evan Gotabor wrote:Here is how my connection looks like on my computer (wifi) and my dust character in his quarter. I'm using an ethernet cable on my PS3 so numbers have to be slightly better @xxwhitedevilxx I'm curious, where did you get your numbers ? xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Actually, it's the exact opposite. French connections are one of the fastest in Eu and in the world. An average of 40.6 Mbps in France with peaks in the Paris zone, around 80 Mbps average. By comparison, Germany, Spain and UK (around 30 Mbps), Poland (around 25 Mbps) and Italy ( around 10 Mbps ) are snails. It's also pretty renowned that if someone "doesn't take any damage" in any online FPS is not lagging: he's simply communicating with the server or the host faster than you. @TheD1CK You forgot Mithril Forge on your list 1MB upload it s more than 3 time mine...just sayng
Warning Forgegun proof V. Jastad told me: "Believe in the forge".Can i have your isk?
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Richard Gamerich-R
PIanet Express Smart Deploy
48
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Posted - 2015.05.02 07:34:00 -
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You're just bad, that's all.
I'm over 20 000 km of europe (French Polynesia, Pacific Ocean), and I can kill them, even if there is a lag.
Aim better, and stay on your servers (Americans and Asians also lag for the other players who are not on their continent), and stop to cry, or stop DUST.
Best regards. |
Regis Blackbird
Dust University Ivy League
800
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Posted - 2015.05.02 07:37:00 -
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Gengis-Kun wrote:+ CCP remove change server option
^ This would solve sooo many problems. And no, I am not advocating locking players to their region. The server setting should always be "Automatic", allowing the frigging code to decide who plays who (you know, what the code is actually there for).
I have played Prima Gallicus without lag (EU player myself).
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QRT30
Rave Technologies Inc. C0VEN
90
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Posted - 2015.05.02 08:07:00 -
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Richard Gamerich-R wrote:You're just bad, that's all. I'm over 20 000 km of europe (French Polynesia, Pacific Ocean), and I can kill them, even if there is a lag. Aim better, and stay on your servers (Americans and Asians also lag for the other players who are not on their continent), and stop to cry, or stop DUST. Best regards. Few month ago we were talking about lag when we were in squad. I was surprised that you don't lag to me and other PG lag so hard and I live only 1500 km from France.
QRT30 - open beta vet with over 90 mln Sp or close beta newbie at Planetside 2
QRT300 - Amarr heavy/commando
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Orenji Jiji
466
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Posted - 2015.05.02 09:35:00 -
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Based in EU, 140/6 MBit (120/5.75 according to speed test), below 30ms solid ping to EU battleservers in NL, cabled to the router. Two person household, only I download stuff and stream stuff and none of that is happening when I play. Locked on EU, so mornings are full of asian corps fighting russian corps, then americanos and latinos come in.
PGs, previously WTF, walk through bullets when with full squad. Since closed beta. Damage simply doesn't register, even when they run directly towards you. Funnily enough without squad all off them are at best "decent", but with corp squad can't be killed half the time. It's not lagging, it's using a broken server mechanic to their advantage. Geographically co-located squds do that to the battle server, as most of people in this topic are aware. You can even notice it when you team up with them, for me it's especially visible with Italian corps. Full squad of Italianos and me in the same team -- suddenly when I push R1 whatever I aim at dies in an instant.
Everyone who says its gungame is bullshitting you. It's simply using a broken mechanic to your advantage. And since cat is out of the bag now there's not much you can do. "It's all in the game." I guess GJ CCP, keep on truckin'.
Now add "improved new match making: you enter a pub and see 6 French + 6 Spanish on the other side and only NPC corp on yours. It's like "NOPE".
I still remember when it was reported in beta and Traky or whoever jumped the topic shouting "DAT RACIST!" Good times.
Just don't count on this ever being "fixed".
"Balancing" will continue until full racial disparity is reached.
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KingA2thur
66
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Posted - 2015.05.02 09:47:00 -
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Denchlad 7 wrote:Tears, TEARS, RELEASE THEM ALL!
Prima don't lag honestly. I played a match where I was on the same team as them against you and you were lagging like crazy, about an hour ago. French ping isn't great but compared to some Japanese corps Prima don't lag at all.
It is the same situation with Prima Gallicus. If you are in their team, the enemys are lagging. If you are in the opposite team it is Prima Gallicus who is lagging. Just ban them for using sh*tty tactics and beeing @$$holes.
To get trolled press any key.
"I do not see 'any key'. I can only see a square, triangle, circle and cross."
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
8340
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Posted - 2015.05.02 10:11:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:I love how Americans can be such self entitled bitches when it comes to lag. Real ******* first world problems there gents. Don't lump me in with this dumbass sh**.
It's not like stupid is unique to the states. Unfortunately we haven't learned that stupid should be punished.
There's never enough sh**posting going on, so let's add a few more teaspoons of the guy posting after me to the recipie!
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JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game RUST415
616
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Posted - 2015.05.02 10:26:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:I love how Americans can be such self entitled bitches when it comes to lag.
Really -_-
Caldari Loyalist. ( -í° -£-û -í°) They see me rollin they Hating (..) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (..)
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Kwartoo
14
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Posted - 2015.05.02 10:26:00 -
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lol metiumagic is just a crying child. try to get out your redline sometimes, real fighters don't cry on a forum they're fighting on the battleground |
shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
4548
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Posted - 2015.05.02 10:29:00 -
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I love this kind of threads where everybody accuse the others of being laggers. We are probably all right don't you know?
Shaman's Shack - A place to trade
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KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
2869
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Posted - 2015.05.02 11:32:00 -
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The point is definately valid.
The french "lag" worse than any other group in this game. And I am playing from Norway.
How it is possible for them to lag worse than the Latinos with their potatoe network, worse than the Russians and even worse than the Japanese playing from the other side of the planet is beyond my comprehension. Some of you are so bad that I can tell you are near me just by my frames dropping, its like you have an aura of low framerate and bad hitdetection surrounding you.
But don't have any delusions my dear Frogs:
"The French connection" gives you an insane advantage, its been like this since I started playing MAG 6-7 years ago...
Spkr4theDead wrote:
Says the guy that was quitting the game because CCP were nerfing fused locus grenades.
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Kwartoo
14
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Posted - 2015.05.02 12:20:00 -
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that"s strange to see that kind of problem ONLY with DUST514, I have no lag troubles with others game
king babar you'd better try to play candy crush saga, really |
Francois Sanchez
Prima Gallicus
411
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Posted - 2015.05.02 12:58:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:The point is definately valid.
The french "lag" worse than any other group in this game. And I am playing from Norway.
How it is possible for them to lag worse than the Latinos with their potatoe network, worse than the Russians and even worse than the Japanese playing from the other side of the planet is beyond my comprehension. Some of you are so bad that I can tell you are near me just by my frames dropping, its like you have an aura of low framerate and bad hitdetection surrounding you.
But don't have any delusions my dear Frogs:
"The French connection" gives you an insane advantage, its been like this since I started playing MAG 6-7 years ago...
LOL You think lag helps us? You should come on our side and see what it looks like here. This a video where you can see a casual PC lag for us, it's far to be the worst, it's even in the "not too laggy PC games" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5LvHBTumWQ
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Racro 01 Arifistan
Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd.
531
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Posted - 2015.05.02 13:31:00 -
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you think lag is horrible????
iam an Australian player no matter the servers theres always ******* lag.
if you get killed by an aussie you should feel bad...
I DEMEND the Oceania server be bought back.\
why ccp even bought it down was a load of bullshit.
protostomping? lol.....they were killable with millita gear due to their **** connection to us..
lag switch?? wasn't noticlbe.
afkers......yes but these guys suck and the main reason why they are hated is either they were afk isk making (difficult to do now)
or had just a horrible connection they couldn't be on the reciving end of the mlt/std gear stomp.
Aussies suffer the worst lag when playing on the other servers.... give us some love ccp.!!!!
Elite Gallenten Soldier
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Denchlad 7
The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback
2212
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Posted - 2015.05.02 13:31:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Denchlad 7 wrote:Tears, TEARS, RELEASE THEM ALL!
Prima don't lag honestly. I played a match where I was on the same team as them against you and you were lagging like crazy, about an hour ago. French ping isn't great but compared to some Japanese corps Prima don't lag at all. Actually, it's the exact opposite. French connections are one of the fastest in Eu and in the world. An average of 40.6 Mbps in France with peaks in the Paris zone, around 80 Mbps average. By comparison, Germany, Spain and UK (around 30 Mbps), Poland (around 25 Mbps) and Italy ( around 10 Mbps ) are snails. It's also pretty renowned that if someone "doesn't take any damage" in any online FPS is not lagging: he's simply communicating with the server or the host faster than you. Hmm well im from the UK and I get 25 down 5 up, cant remember ping from the top of my head though. Still find it astonishing that people can play with no latency with under 5 down.
I'm 98% likely to better than you at using any gun.
Dench's Emporium of Everything! coming soon...
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Raptor Princess
ALLOTEC INC
231
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Posted - 2015.05.02 14:15:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Patrick57 wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Denchlad 7 wrote:Tears, TEARS, RELEASE THEM ALL!
Prima don't lag honestly. I played a match where I was on the same team as them against you and you were lagging like crazy, about an hour ago. French ping isn't great but compared to some Japanese corps Prima don't lag at all. Actually, it's the exact opposite. French connections are one of the fastest in Eu and in the world. An average of 40.6 Mbps in France with peaks in the Paris zone, around 80 Mbps average. By comparison, Germany, Spain and UK (around 30 Mbps), Poland (around 25 Mbps) and Italy ( around 10 Mbps ) are snails. I would kill for 25 Mbps. I get like 4 average 1.25 Mbps here
How on earth do you manage to get logged onto PSN with that?! I can't log on at my parents' house because BT are the worst ISP known to man, woman or beast. If connection drops below 2MBps, PSN kicks me. At under 5Mbps, dust is almost unplayable.
But I call shenanigans on the UK being 30Mbps. Unless you've got fibre optic, connection sucks. Or maybe that's just in Scotland... I've got no friends who can get above 20Mbps unless they're fibre optic. I hover between 15 and 20 myself, and won't have access to anything better for the foreseeable future, since us Northerners aren't a priority when it comes to speedy interwebz. |
Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
1303
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Posted - 2015.05.02 14:43:00 -
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just another bit of input here... most times a person who is lagging, does not lag on their end at all. Refer to my short story. Everything was smooth on my end, but I was bouncing all over the fkn place to others. |
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metiumagic
Capital Acquisitions LLC
21
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Posted - 2015.05.02 15:37:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:wait, so let me get this straight...
a US player goes to the EU server then complain EU players lag?
this is why we can't have nice things....
I'm EU player.
;)
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Foo Fighting
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
283
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Posted - 2015.05.02 15:39:00 -
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Disclaimer - this is pure supposition on my part but it's a theory that seems to make sense:
The game must compensate for lag i.e. delays in communication with the server (back and forth). If everyone has a similar ping, the lag compensation works well for all 32 players. If there is a range of pings (very likely) the lag compensation needs to compensate for the average lag. If you are at the extremities of this ping range your experience will be worse than someone nearer the average. If there is a squad of players from a region the lag compensation avarage will be pulled towards their typical ping.
This would explain why it appears that certain corps lag more than other individuals or squads that are more local to you.
I play against PG a lot (occasionally squad with 1 or 2 of them) they are good players and nearly always play together. It's true they can appear to jump around especially if they are in a squad but do you think that an entire corp could discover a secret way to use the lag compensation to their advantage and keep it to themselves? No.
People who play in squads with people local to them at peak times for their region they are less likely to experience this phenomena - whereas if you play solo, fw, pc, off peak times or any combination of these, you are more likely to experience problems due to the wide range of pings.
As I said just a theory (no programmer) but it fits my experience and seems more likely than the conspiracy theories. |
metiumagic
Capital Acquisitions LLC
21
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Posted - 2015.05.02 15:40:00 -
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Kwartoo wrote:lol metiumagic is just a crying child. try to get out of your redline sometimes, real fighters don't cry on a forum they're fighting on the battleground
Sonny, I could eat you with my starter fit.
;)
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
4553
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Posted - 2015.05.03 10:23:00 -
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Laggers XD
Shaman's Shack - A place to trade
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Regis Blackbird
DUST University Ivy League
808
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Posted - 2015.05.03 10:34:00 -
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Kwartoo wrote:that"s strange to see that kind of problem ONLY with DUST514, I have no lag troubles with others game
king babar you'd better try to play candy crush saga, really
That's funny I basically stopped playing Destiny (PS4) for all the lag I got in Crusible. Dust usually runs smooth for me. |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Pwnycorn
3137
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Posted - 2015.05.03 11:20:00 -
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Raptor Princess wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Patrick57 wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Denchlad 7 wrote:Tears, TEARS, RELEASE THEM ALL!
Prima don't lag honestly. I played a match where I was on the same team as them against you and you were lagging like crazy, about an hour ago. French ping isn't great but compared to some Japanese corps Prima don't lag at all. Actually, it's the exact opposite. French connections are one of the fastest in Eu and in the world. An average of 40.6 Mbps in France with peaks in the Paris zone, around 80 Mbps average. By comparison, Germany, Spain and UK (around 30 Mbps), Poland (around 25 Mbps) and Italy ( around 10 Mbps ) are snails. I would kill for 25 Mbps. I get like 4 average 1.25 Mbps here How on earth do you manage to get logged onto PSN with that?! I can't log on at my parents' house because BT are the worst ISP known to man, woman or beast. If connection drops below 2MBps, PSN kicks me. At under 5Mbps, dust is almost unplayable. But I call shenanigans on the UK being 30Mbps. Unless you've got fibre optic, connection sucks. Or maybe that's just in Scotland... I've got no friends who can get above 20Mbps unless they're fibre optic. I hover between 15 and 20 myself, and won't have access to anything better for the foreseeable future, since us Northerners aren't a priority when it comes to speedy interwebz.
Well, check for yourself :p
http://explorer.netindex.com/maps
Guinea Dust Bunnies are watching you, CCP Rouge.
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saxonmish
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
1114
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Posted - 2015.05.03 11:51:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Patrick57 wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Denchlad 7 wrote:Tears, TEARS, RELEASE THEM ALL!
Prima don't lag honestly. I played a match where I was on the same team as them against you and you were lagging like crazy, about an hour ago. French ping isn't great but compared to some Japanese corps Prima don't lag at all. Actually, it's the exact opposite. French connections are one of the fastest in Eu and in the world. An average of 40.6 Mbps in France with peaks in the Paris zone, around 80 Mbps average. By comparison, Germany, Spain and UK (around 30 Mbps), Poland (around 25 Mbps) and Italy ( around 10 Mbps ) are snails. I would kill for 25 Mbps. I get like 4 average 1.25 Mbps here holy ****... that is...lower than a midget doing the Limbo
i would say mine but, yeaano not gonna happen
SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
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Elpedo Hughes
Dead Man's Game RUST415
140
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Posted - 2015.05.03 12:08:00 -
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No one cares Savillemish
My Officer and BPOs for Sale
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Raptor Princess
ALLOTEC INC
231
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Posted - 2015.05.03 18:56:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Raptor Princess wrote:
How on earth do you manage to get logged onto PSN with that?! I can't log on at my parents' house because BT are the worst ISP known to man, woman or beast. If connection drops below 2MBps, PSN kicks me. At under 5Mbps, dust is almost unplayable.
But I call shenanigans on the UK being 30Mbps. Unless you've got fibre optic, connection sucks. Or maybe that's just in Scotland... I've got no friends who can get above 20Mbps unless they're fibre optic. I hover between 15 and 20 myself, and won't have access to anything better for the foreseeable future, since us Northerners aren't a priority when it comes to speedy interwebz.
Well, check for yourself :p http://explorer.netindex.com/maps
Yeah... so where I live is 17.5Mbps and is below 700th on the rankings :(
I want better interwebz!
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