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Kayla Michael
Tactical Logistics and Cargo
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Posted - 2015.04.27 03:52:00 -
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What's your opinion of the cloak?
My opinion:
I don't like it, because it's a "cheap" not the best source of description. But, I just flat-out find it irking greatly where I have to search intently just to be laying dead and using up the CRU repeatedly. "get gud nub" yeah, whatever... just sucks getting killed by someone that hides a lot. Lol not much else I can beach further onto that. lol (rant)
Your turn.
I eat drahp uplink, me thinks this isn't a cookie. ~
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Crimson ShieId
Horizons' Edge
2413
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Posted - 2015.04.27 03:59:00 -
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Given what cloaks have resulted in with the nerfs to passive Ewar, I'm kind of bitter at this point. I'd give them up entirely just to have my old scan range back on my Minmatar scout. Staying alive was easier then than it is now. It was fun while it lasted, but the fun parts about it were nerfed out of it. Now it's just another tool, and a rather boring one at that.
My Plasma Cannon says "Hello" to your face~
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Vicious Minotaur
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Posted - 2015.04.27 04:04:00 -
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The game is not better off for the cloak having been introduced.
I am a minotaur.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Back and Forth
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Posted - 2015.04.27 04:07:00 -
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i like cloaks and jump mods...
a lot people think putting on makes them better when it just holds them back...
Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll take your districts and hurt you.
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Forever ETC
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1005
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Posted - 2015.04.27 04:09:00 -
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They need a buff
PIE
Lasers4life
"Thought it wouldn't hurt a lot... but guess not." *Reloads Laser Rifle
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Alex-ZX
Valor Coalition
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Posted - 2015.04.27 04:09:00 -
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2 things,
because of them scouts are blind, even with modules.
After nerf cloacks sux really hard... And to me they are useless.
*Alex's modified ZX-030 HMG
Luis' modified VC-107 CR
Alex's modified VC-107 SMG* Owner of this beasts
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Vell0cet
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
3024
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Posted - 2015.04.27 04:11:00 -
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Cloaks add richness and depth to combat. They're excellent counters to some tactics, and allow players to stealth out of camped redlines to establish a new beachhead with uplinks. There are good counters to them and the firing delay added much-needed balance. Cloaks are generally more useful for crossing open terrain, and escaping/hiding after a gank than they are for offense.
Best PvE idea ever!
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Lenz Hong
Resheph Interstellar Strategy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.04.27 04:11:00 -
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Cloak should have a better skill progression after the "fix".
Maybe, 15% more range per level on skill? Will still have less range then "uncloacked", but...
Also, should be easier to pick them, having a better precision should be easier.. |
DDx77
The Exemplars
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Posted - 2015.04.27 05:28:00 -
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it needs some love
Less shimmer
More cloak time
Removal of awkward arm switching delay
More ways to detect them
May the Dark shine your way
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Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
1230
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Posted - 2015.04.27 05:31:00 -
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I like them, not to heavy..good movement. keep you comfy, and good to hide a dagger under |
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FLAYLOCK Steve
Nos Nothi
765
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Posted - 2015.04.27 05:38:00 -
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Kayla Michael wrote:What's your opinion of the cloak?
My opinion:
I don't like it, because it's a "cheap" not the best source of description. But, I just flat-out find it irking greatly where I have to search intently just to be laying dead and using up the CRU repeatedly. "get gud nub" yeah, whatever... just sucks getting killed by someone that hides a lot. Lol not much else I can beach further onto that. lol (rant)
Your turn.
I like the concept but hate them as well. I wasn't around when they were OP, see when I first came back I was used to 1.3< version of dust. I come back and everything has change, scouts are now blind. The line between scouts and assaults are barely there. Assaults have high hp, and run almost as fast as scouts, they can even outscout us. Scouts only got slightly better speed, slightly better regain and still that's a eh. The only benefit scouts seem to have now is two equipment slots and cloak.... The cloak does not work as it was supposed to.
Pretty much this is how I stand:
Crimson ShieId wrote:Given what cloaks have resulted in with the nerfs to passive Ewar, I'm kind of bitter at this point. I'd give them up entirely just to have my old scan range back on my Minmatar scout. Staying alive was easier then than it is now. It was fun while it lasted, but the fun parts about it were nerfed out of it. Now it's just another tool, and a rather boring one at that.
There is almost no reason to spec into a scout vs specing into a assault, not even the cloak is a good enough reason. There's literally nothing a scout can do that a assault can't.
See the biggest dilemma here is that people don't want scouts to slayers(which is dumb, any suit can be a slayer if the player is good enough) or light assaults but yet assaults can be scouts......
I know this thread is not about scouts per say but about cloaks, but if cloaks were meant to give scouts it's role it should do it and work, and in my eyes and eyes of many it's broken. If you want to call that tactic cheap I'l leave you to it. Just think about all that it took to get that kill given to how bad cloaks are.. |
Operative 1174 Uuali
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2015.04.27 07:03:00 -
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If they'd buff the scouting aspect of the cloak while nerfing the combat aspect into the ground it'd be better.
By that I mean add back the scan power and allow a player to be completely unseen at a distance. However, make the cloak deactivate when within 15m of anybody friend or foe (to allow for lag that would end up being within 10m), make the decloak delay when switching to a weapon 10 or more seconds and once decloaked due to proximity it must cool down.
Also, make it decloak when near an installation or uplink to avoid camping.
I was really hoping the cloak would put the scout into scout and not the ninja.
Death is a serious businessGǪ So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Rebels New Republic
The Ditanian Alliance
2749
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Posted - 2015.04.27 09:12:00 -
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Stopped using it then came back to it, found it being an annoyance. I never learned to be invisible before the cloak so what
better time then now right?
PARKOUR in DUST (MYOS) \m/, Fear the PARKOURing Scouts Mk.0 Gk.0
Snake Eyes>All
I wil get good, Determinator inbound
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noob cavman
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
2360
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Posted - 2015.04.27 11:54:00 -
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It's not a combat cloak so im glad they added the arm lowering animation.
people still can use it to great effect, they just can't bumrush a red and insta blap.
I want to be a caveman!
psn: marko_blues
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Full steam ahead into the enemies booty yarrr.
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Scheneighnay McBob
And the ButtPirates
6236
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Posted - 2015.04.27 17:29:00 -
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I feel like they're overrated, but they still help somewhat.
All they really do is protect you from someone's peripheral vision, and (at higher tiers) give a little bit of dampening.
If someone is actively looking for a scout and they can't find them, either they're blind, or the scout was somewhere they wouldn't have seen without a cloak anyway.
Some details can be ignored
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DiablosMajora
132
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Posted - 2015.04.27 17:34:00 -
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Crimson ShieId wrote:Given what cloaks have resulted in with the nerfs to passive Ewar, I'm kind of bitter at this point. I'd give them up entirely just to have my old scan range back on my Minmatar scout. Staying alive was easier then than it is now. It was fun while it lasted, but the fun parts about it were nerfed out of it. Now it's just another tool, and a rather boring one at that.
Cloak is my greatest asset on my minja.
I jump on top of CRUs and hack them, then stab any redberry wanderers in the back when they can't be bothered to look 'up'
Prepare your angus
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Balistyc Farshot
OUTCAST MERCS
General Tso's Alliance
150
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Posted - 2015.04.27 18:37:00 -
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I have 2 suits with cloaks and the myos make the cloaking so much more effective. Hiding up high blurry makes you blend in better.
The cloaks need to be almost impossible to fit on any suit, reduce the 10 seconds to 5 seconds and make scouts wield 2 sidearms no light weapon. This was recommended a long time ago. Making scouts have minimal damage unless they are danger close or head shotting, but make them invisible gives you the cost benefit. Also they should limit the number of myos per suit for all but scouts. That would make them the duck hunter flyers who you want to stay away.
From Logi, to Heavy, to Scout, now I am moving to ADS. Please stop balancing!
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