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Godin Thekiller
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.04.27 02:32:00 -
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Ratatti said PVE is being researched. We just might see it SOONtm after all.
BLUB
click me
Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
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Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
115
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Posted - 2015.04.27 02:34:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Ratatti said PVE is being researched. We just might see it SOONtm after all.
BLUB
For everything PvE in DUST 514, check out this blog on Biomassed
I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
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thor424
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
22
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Posted - 2015.04.27 02:34:00 -
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Man, if that dude would have been here back in beta.
Thor's Emporium
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SoTa PoP
Ahrendee Inc.
Negative-Feedback
6602
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Posted - 2015.04.27 02:35:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Ratatti said PVE is being researched. We just might see it SOONtm after all.
BLUB
PvE won't even be a true thought until there's an art-team to create models for it. So until there's news of anything on that level being considered for Dust - nothing is coming for us
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2743
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Posted - 2015.04.27 02:38:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Ratatti said PVE is being researched. We just might see it SOONtm after all.
BLUB PvE won't even be a true thought until there's an art-team to create models for it. So until there's news of anything on that level being considered for Dust - nothing is coming for us
You do know that they've had drone models for years by now?
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
2197
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Posted - 2015.04.27 03:09:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Ratatti said PVE is being researched. We just might see it SOONtm after all.
BLUB PvE won't even be a true thought until there's an art-team to create models for it. So until there's news of anything on that level being considered for Dust - nothing is coming for us
SoTa, I seriously love/hate that you're a huge voice of reason nowadays.
Stop it, its weird.
But continue because people suck
Here I was thinking you drove tanks, but clearly thats just your ego that you ride around in. -DUST fiend to Dark Cloud
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Lupus Wolf
Minmatar Republic
259
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Posted - 2015.04.27 03:11:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:THIS JUST IN
You're a month late.
"Dogfighting with missiles is like watching two armless kids try to catch a baseball." - Dust Fiend
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
1513
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Posted - 2015.04.27 03:13:00 -
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Wooo put those drone models to work....
FOR THE STATE!
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Foundation Seldon
Demonite's Legion
962
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Posted - 2015.04.27 03:32:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Ratatti said PVE is being researched. We just might see it SOONtm after all.
BLUB PvE won't even be a true thought until there's an art-team to create models for it. So until there's news of anything on that level being considered for Dust - nothing is coming for us
Not necessarily? They could totally recolor a bunch of dropsuits and say that they're 'drones' for a pseudo horde mode thing.
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Seed Dren
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
164
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Posted - 2015.04.27 03:35:00 -
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Foundation Seldon wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Ratatti said PVE is being researched. We just might see it SOONtm after all.
BLUB PvE won't even be a true thought until there's an art-team to create models for it. So until there's news of anything on that level being considered for Dust - nothing is coming for us Not necessarily? They could totally recolor a bunch of dropsuits and say that they're 'drones' for a pseudo horde mode thing.
I would not mind that at all.... for now.
Amarr assualt + shotgun + hellfire= illuminati confirmed
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7th Son 7
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
811
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Posted - 2015.04.27 03:36:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Ratatti said PVE is being researched. We just might see it SOONtm after all.
BLUB
Most excellent news. Thanks for the update +1
Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy if possible........--- Stonewall Jackson
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Scheneighnay McBob
And the ButtPirates
6235
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Posted - 2015.04.27 03:41:00 -
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Foundation Seldon wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Ratatti said PVE is being researched. We just might see it SOONtm after all.
BLUB PvE won't even be a true thought until there's an art-team to create models for it. So until there's news of anything on that level being considered for Dust - nothing is coming for us Not necessarily? They could totally recolor a bunch of dropsuits and say that they're 'drones' for a pseudo horde mode thing.
Let's hope they have the real models done, and that PVE wasn't as far away as we've thought.
My main concern isn't for the models, but for the AI the bots have. Game devlopers make it look easy, but I've seen players trying to make their own PVE systems from scratch, and it isn't even remotely close to easy. Especially in an FPS.
Some details can be ignored
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JIMvc2
Consolidated Dust
945
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Posted - 2015.04.27 03:48:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Ratatti said PVE is being researched. We just might see it SOONtm after all.
BLUB PvE won't even be a true thought until there's an art-team to create models for it. So until there's news of anything on that level being considered for Dust - nothing is coming for us
I think its time to do our part and help the dev's coming up with Drone concepts.
As a starwars fan, I approve and will support PVE.
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! Die YOU SHADOW BEING IN THE DARK!!!
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Back and Forth
7851
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Posted - 2015.04.27 03:50:00 -
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I thought they confirmed PVE like 3 years ago...
Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll take your districts and hurt you.
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DiablosMajora
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Posted - 2015.04.27 03:50:00 -
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JIMvc2 wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Ratatti said PVE is being researched. We just might see it SOONtm after all.
BLUB PvE won't even be a true thought until there's an art-team to create models for it. So until there's news of anything on that level being considered for Dust - nothing is coming for us I think its time to do our part and help the dev's coming up with Drone concepts. As a starwars fan, I approve and will support PVE.
:3c
Prepare your angus
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JIMvc2
Consolidated Dust
946
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Posted - 2015.04.27 03:51:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Ratatti said PVE is being researched. We just might see it SOONtm after all.
BLUB PvE won't even be a true thought until there's an art-team to create models for it. So until there's news of anything on that level being considered for Dust - nothing is coming for us
I think its time to do our part and help the dev's coming up with Drone concepts.
As a starwars fan, I approve and will support PVE.
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! Die YOU SHADOW BEING IN THE DARK!!!
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Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
118
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Posted - 2015.04.27 03:51:00 -
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DiablosMajora wrote:JIMvc2 wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Ratatti said PVE is being researched. We just might see it SOONtm after all.
BLUB PvE won't even be a true thought until there's an art-team to create models for it. So until there's news of anything on that level being considered for Dust - nothing is coming for us I think its time to do our part and help the dev's coming up with Drone concepts. As a starwars fan, I approve and will support PVE. :3c
*winks*
I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
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DiablosMajora
132
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Posted - 2015.04.27 03:53:00 -
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Aiwha Bait wrote:DiablosMajora wrote:JIMvc2 wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Ratatti said PVE is being researched. We just might see it SOONtm after all.
BLUB PvE won't even be a true thought until there's an art-team to create models for it. So until there's news of anything on that level being considered for Dust - nothing is coming for us I think its time to do our part and help the dev's coming up with Drone concepts. As a starwars fan, I approve and will support PVE. :3c *winks*
Por que no las dos?
Prepare your angus
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Squagga
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
562
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Posted - 2015.04.27 04:44:00 -
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He said during fanfest we would get this. It's a toss up. On one hand, CCP and their broken promises. On the other hand, Ratatti actually delivers. So we'll see
Reloading, the silent killer.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
8228
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Posted - 2015.04.27 05:38:00 -
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As I understand it the primary bottleneck is a not-sh*t ddrone AI.
Trivial drone encounters would be bad and compensating for poor AI by making them into bullet sponges like Destiny bosses would be more irritating than awesome.
AV
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2745
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Posted - 2015.04.27 08:01:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Foundation Seldon wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Ratatti said PVE is being researched. We just might see it SOONtm after all.
BLUB PvE won't even be a true thought until there's an art-team to create models for it. So until there's news of anything on that level being considered for Dust - nothing is coming for us Not necessarily? They could totally recolor a bunch of dropsuits and say that they're 'drones' for a pseudo horde mode thing. Let's hope they have the real models done, and that PVE wasn't as far away as we've thought. My main concern isn't for the models, but for the AI the bots have. Game devlopers make it look easy, but I've seen players trying to make their own PVE systems from scratch, and it isn't even remotely close to easy. Especially in an FPS.
What's there to hope for? Am I the only one who actually watched the trailers for Dust?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCCTrEhkUCY
There. Perfectly fine drone models. The problem they always had was AI and performance I think.
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Eros Adonai
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
270
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Posted - 2015.04.27 09:19:00 -
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Has anyone considered how long it would take to get into a full PvP match if PvE comes out? 
Director - Corrosive Synergy
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
8230
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Posted - 2015.04.27 10:08:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:
There. Perfectly fine drone models. The problem they always had was AI and performance I think.
renders for videos and in-game models are not, by necessity the same thing.
The models exist, yes. They might not be optimized so the PS3 won't choke on them. I think, if I remember correctly, they have some game-ready. But between the AI and the PS3 being a finicky b*tch with it's RAM, we might see some basic PvE.
I'm hoping if they have to get a imperfect AI that they opt for harder AI to beat than easier. If we get easier you're going to wind up with tiny farming groups (one man) harvesting them for isk and salvage.
AV
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Rebels New Republic
The Ditanian Alliance
2749
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Posted - 2015.04.27 10:31:00 -
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Eros Adonai wrote:Has anyone considered how long it would take to get into a full PvP match if PvE comes out?
The ones that are left probably wont notice too much if its separate mode. Another thought, the KDR padders will have a mode
to themselves.
But i bet thats were the newbs would be... so have to separate them so they dont get stomped. If its anything like the old
MM of course.
PARKOUR in DUST (MYOS) \m/, Fear the PARKOURing Scouts Mk.0 Gk.0
Snake Eyes>All
I wil get good, Determinator inbound
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
8234
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Posted - 2015.04.27 12:10:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Eros Adonai wrote:Has anyone considered how long it would take to get into a full PvP match if PvE comes out? The ones that are left probably wont notice too much if its separate mode. Another thought, the KDR padders will have a mode to themselves. But i bet thats were the newbs would be... so have to separate them so they dont get stomped. If its anything like the old MM of course.
There is no reason why a PvE mode should give any modification to PvP stats.
AV
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STYLIE77
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
592
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Posted - 2015.04.27 12:36:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Ratatti said PVE is being researched. We just might see it SOONtm after all.
BLUB
CONFIRMED, they hired a PVE programmer for Shanghai last summer... =o)
Here is the reddit that discussed the AI position posting and hire.
http://www.reddit.com/r/dust514/comments/1wdbig/jobsccpgames_ai_programmer_shanghai/
http://caughtyouflinching.ytmnd.com/
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STYLIE77
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
592
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Posted - 2015.04.27 12:49:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:
There. Perfectly fine drone models. The problem they always had was AI and performance I think.
renders for videos and in-game models are not, by necessity the same thing. The models exist, yes. They might not be optimized so the PS3 won't choke on them. I think, if I remember correctly, they have some game-ready. But between the AI and the PS3 being a finicky b*tch with it's RAM, we might see some basic PvE. I'm hoping if they have to get a imperfect AI that they opt for harder AI to beat than easier. If we get easier you're going to wind up with tiny farming groups (one man) harvesting them for isk and salvage.
I wanted the AI to actually help police PC farms and increase PC activity as well as having easier versions that would work as a meta-lock game mode in pubs.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1912645#post1912645
Now with Ratatti talking about 32 mercs vs Drones in a PvE game mode, Corporation Points and Raiding...
There is a lot that they can do with the AI on many fronts IMO...
First and foremost there should be Prototype level Drone infestations on PC districts on two factors, random infestations and activity based infestations (lack thereof).
Own 20 districts? Have fun trying to defend them from Normal Corp attacks, random corp raids, AND DRONE INFESTATIONS on rarely used districts!!
The whole lore of our being here is that the Minmatar Thukker tribe invited us to help police the planets from Angel Cartel Pirate activities right?
Well, if you are not active on the planet... then the Angel Cartel tries to take it via Drone Infestations forcing you to put up a 12-16 man team (individual skills and tactics vary) to fight a 20 minute battle.
Corporations will have missions eventually, why not throw a few Drone Challenges in there that must be activated with CP (corporation points)?
All of this is pretty lore friendly...
How about that SPECIAL CONTRACTS section of our battle finder that has been used all of 2-3 times?
Throw Corporate Contracts in there!!!
Allow corporations to create contracts for PC fights, as well as allow random generation of Drone Infestation Challenges that can be accepted by squads using a Platoon Deploy system?
Hell, it can just sit there dropping guys into the MCC until the required amount of players are there.
Meta locks can be placed on the Special Contracts with so many generated an hour according to a script that accounts for online player count and Special Contract activity!
Just looking for ways to incorporate PvE in a meaningful way that will keep players engaged with Dust 514 and allow for more players to feel a level of IMMERSION in the New Eden Universe...
http://caughtyouflinching.ytmnd.com/
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SoTa PoP
Ahrendee Inc.
Negative-Feedback
6609
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Posted - 2015.04.27 15:43:00 -
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I really doubt the models are actually completed for the PS3 yet - more then likely you're just seeing the PC models being used for CG Movies.
And i know we have a model for a pet drone that was supposed to accompany our mercs - so they have that, but no real drone models.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
2696
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Posted - 2015.04.27 16:17:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Foundation Seldon wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Ratatti said PVE is being researched. We just might see it SOONtm after all.
BLUB PvE won't even be a true thought until there's an art-team to create models for it. So until there's news of anything on that level being considered for Dust - nothing is coming for us Not necessarily? They could totally recolor a bunch of dropsuits and say that they're 'drones' for a pseudo horde mode thing. Let's hope they have the real models done, and that PVE wasn't as far away as we've thought. My main concern isn't for the models, but for the AI the bots have. Game devlopers make it look easy, but I've seen players trying to make their own PVE systems from scratch, and it isn't even remotely close to easy. Especially in an FPS. What's there to hope for? Am I the only one who actually watched the trailers for Dust? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCCTrEhkUCYThere. Perfectly fine drone models. The problem they always had was AI and performance I think.
if it were me i'd make the drone models placeholder platonic solids and spend the entire dev budget on AI. You can't kittenshit about AI when you're up against killer hoomans.
PSN: RationalSpark
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