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MINA Longstrike wrote:

Caldari and Gallente fights would be fierce. Pythons with missiles would be quite deadly and largely unopposed if incubi weren't allowed to use rails. Unfortunately in the current state of balance cal tanks would get the crap kicked out of them (what a hilarious balance change, dual hardened blaster tanks are what old dual hardened shield tanks were and blasters are to shields what old missiles were to armor in tank v tank) but forge guns and swarms are present so there's that. Infantry would be relatively balanced, caldari being able to hold positions well with nanites, triage hives and long range weapons, while gallente would excel at short range fights & keep things permascanned. Of these two I'd put caldari in first place simply due to equipment, but both races are at the forefront because they have vehicles.

Minmatar actually have a decent lineup and between rep tools and HMG's would give almost any race a run for their money on foot, but their av is pretty limited with just proxy mines. No, they don't get swarm launchers, those are caldari.

Amarr sadly end up in dead last because while drop uplinks are nice, they have exactly three non-variant weapons.

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Onesimus Tarsus is-a-Corporation 3336	Posted - 2015.04.25 12:52:00 - [1] - Quote So, if you could only fit suits from gear their race provides... How would you rank the races, best to worst? As of April 9, 2015, we have about 330 days of DUST 514 left. Enjoy them!
tal mrak-thanl Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 782	Posted - 2015.04.25 13:05:00 - [2] - Quote Everyone else > Caldari "That OB was like a wet fart" - Eros Adonai mini flux 2015
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 6257	Posted - 2015.04.25 13:32:00 - [3] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: So, if you could only fit suits from gear their race provides... How would you rank the races, best to worst? I'm gonna give this one a +1 for well executed click-bait. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
nicholas73 Glitched Connection 389	Posted - 2015.04.25 13:34:00 - [4] - Quote Winmatar > Amarr > Gallante > Caldari "Knowing more means having more shit to deal with, you know." - Hachiman (Oregairu)
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 2175	Posted - 2015.04.25 13:35:00 - [5] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: So, if you could only fit suits from gear their race provides... How would you rank the races, best to worst? I'm gonna give this one a +1 for well executed click-bait. Some Upworthy level tarp'ing going on here Here I was thinking you drove tanks, but clearly thats just your ego that you ride around in. -DUST fiend to Dark Cloud
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 10345	Posted - 2015.04.25 13:53:00 - [6] - Quote Question, do Minmatar have something in the game that isn't good? I can't think of anything. *As long as 5/6 (83%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP*
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 6210	Posted - 2015.04.25 14:04:00 - [7] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Question, do Minmatar have something in the game that isn't good? I can't think of anything. Their history Bum dum tss (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game RUST415 1297	Posted - 2015.04.25 14:05:00 - [8] - Quote Well.. Gall would be first cuz they have OP maddys and loved by many and hated by everyone else SG and Scanners. Minmatar and Amarr would be equal [but Amarr would be higher cuz they have UPLINKS. No uplinks, no win] Sadly Caldari wouldn't do good. Caldari Loyalist thecreaturehub fan Mejt0 Sale List
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 2772	Posted - 2015.04.25 14:06:00 - [9] - Quote Caldari and Gallente fights would be fierce. Pythons with missiles would be quite deadly and largely unopposed if incubi weren't allowed to use rails. Unfortunately in the current state of balance cal tanks would get the crap kicked out of them (what a hilarious balance change, dual hardened blaster tanks are what old dual hardened shield tanks were and blasters are to shields what old missiles were to armor in tank v tank) but forge guns and swarms are present so there's that. Infantry would be relatively balanced, caldari being able to hold positions well with nanites, triage hives and long range weapons, while gallente would excel at short range fights & keep things permascanned. Of these two I'd put caldari in first place simply due to equipment, but both races are at the forefront because they have vehicles. Minmatar actually have a decent lineup and between rep tools and HMG's would give almost any race a run for their money on foot, but their av is pretty limited with just proxy mines. No, they don't get swarm launchers, those are caldari. Amarr sadly end up in dead last because while drop uplinks are nice, they have exactly three non-variant weapons. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
The KTM DuKe Dead Man's Game 147	Posted - 2015.04.25 14:10:00 - [10] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Question, do Minmatar have something in the game that isn't good? I can't think of anything. Vehicles...lol =ƒæèDMG Director=ƒæè =ƒÖî=ƒÖîAlt of H0riz0n Unlimit=ƒÖî=ƒÖî. Getting hate mails from alliance all day long=ƒÿÄ=ƒÿÄ

Moochie Cricket Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 1162	Posted - 2015.04.25 14:38:00 - [11] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Caldari and Gallente fights would be fierce. Pythons with missiles would be quite deadly and largely unopposed if incubi weren't allowed to use rails. Unfortunately in the current state of balance cal tanks would get the crap kicked out of them (what a hilarious balance change, dual hardened blaster tanks are what old dual hardened shield tanks were and blasters are to shields what old missiles were to armor in tank v tank) but forge guns and swarms are present so there's that. Infantry would be relatively balanced, caldari being able to hold positions well with nanites, triage hives and long range weapons, while gallente would excel at short range fights & keep things permascanned. Of these two I'd put caldari in first place simply due to equipment, but both races are at the forefront because they have vehicles. Minmatar actually have a decent lineup and between rep tools and HMG's would give almost any race a run for their money on foot, but their av is pretty limited with just proxy mines. No, they don't get swarm launchers, those are caldari. Amarr sadly end up in dead last because while drop uplinks are nice, they have exactly three non-variant weapons. Yep. Don't forget about AV nades. Those are ours as well. FOR THE STATE
Scheneighnay McBob And the ButtPirates 6209	Posted - 2015.04.25 14:44:00 - [12] - Quote tal mrak-thanl wrote: Everyone else > Caldari Explain why rail rifles are the most common rifle, then. I would say everything depends on how it's used. Some details can be ignored
SoTa PoP Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 6575	Posted - 2015.04.25 14:47:00 - [13] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Caldari and Gallente fights would be fierce. Pythons with missiles would be quite deadly and largely unopposed if incubi weren't allowed to use rails. Unfortunately in the current state of balance cal tanks would get the crap kicked out of them (what a hilarious balance change, dual hardened blaster tanks are what old dual hardened shield tanks were and blasters are to shields what old missiles were to armor in tank v tank) but forge guns and swarms are present so there's that. Infantry would be relatively balanced, caldari being able to hold positions well with nanites, triage hives and long range weapons, while gallente would excel at short range fights & keep things permascanned. Of these two I'd put caldari in first place simply due to equipment, but both races are at the forefront because they have vehicles. Minmatar actually have a decent lineup and between rep tools and HMG's would give almost any race a run for their money on foot, but their av is pretty limited with just proxy mines. No, they don't get swarm launchers, those are caldari. Amarr sadly end up in dead last because while drop uplinks are nice, they have exactly three non-variant weapons. With how OP the ScR and ASCR are on the Amarr Assault and how much better the Amarr Sentinel is compared to the others - I'd say Amarr would be just fine. Especially with our spawn in bonus thx to Logi. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 1117	Posted - 2015.04.25 14:49:00 - [14] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: So, if you could only fit suits from gear their race provides... How would you rank the races, best to worst? I'm gonna give this one a +1 for well executed click-bait. One of the reasons why I always mouse-over first.
Henrietta Unknown Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 1277	Posted - 2015.04.25 15:56:00 - [15] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: tal mrak-thanl wrote: Everyone else > Caldari Explain why rail rifles are the most common rifle, then. I would say everything depends on how it's used. Really? I'm seeing rifles of all kinds except Caldari on the killfeed. Though I do see my fair share of RR users. Which means it's lost killing potential. Don't foget y'all nerfed it to a gun with mule kick and sloth charge. Selling Items Store - Code Bazaar
Aeon Amadi Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 9581	Posted - 2015.04.25 16:02:00 - [16] - Quote Henrietta Unknown wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: tal mrak-thanl wrote: Everyone else > Caldari Explain why rail rifles are the most common rifle, then. I would say everything depends on how it's used. Really? I'm seeing rifles of all kinds except Caldari on the killfeed. Though I do see my fair share of RR users. Which means it's lost killing potential. Don't foget y'all nerfed it to a gun with mule kick and sloth charge. I started seeing a lot of commercials in relation to mattresses whenever I decided to start shopping for one. Every five minutes another home furniture commercial would play, TemperPedic, SleepNumber, etc. They just kept popping up. Point is, when you start to pay attention and look for something, you'll see it more often - alternatively if you feel that you don't see something enough, you start to pay more attention when you don't see it. All the rifles (with the exception of a few niche ones like the Burst AR and what not) get a lot of use. Just hard to notice when there's so many people and so many situations with which they can be used. Running for the CPM was the biggest mistake of my life if only because I'm the only one who ever let it go.
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Back and Forth 7843	Posted - 2015.04.25 16:09:00 - [17] - Quote Amarr > Min > Gal > Cal Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll take your districts and hurt you. Get Dust ISK Here
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens 3890	Posted - 2015.04.25 16:33:00 - [18] - Quote Minmatar > Amarr > Gallente > Caldari Minmatar has no bad suits and most of them fall into being the best (Assault, Commando, Logistics arguably). Gallente and Amarr are so close. I give Amarr the edge though because the Scrambler is a better weapon than the Plasma Rifle. Caldari have a decent rifle and (arguably) the best Scout suit. Everything else falls behind the others. "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
Golden Day Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 1465	Posted - 2015.04.25 16:53:00 - [19] - Quote takes note half of these people dont run caldari suits and dont know how to run them FOR THE STATE!
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 3754	Posted - 2015.04.25 17:02:00 - [20] - Quote Amarr-Caldari(if you know what you're doing)-Gallente-Minmatar(sorta like a ditto on other races, it mimicks others) They're not really far apart on each other, and this is only my opinion. This is only fitting though, and NOT combat effectiveness, because Caldari isnt 2 there for most people. Sniper Rifles are for Nitrogenous Dioxide Borons First to PM me with common name wins (no Hyansaru, u win too much ;P)

Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 10359	Posted - 2015.04.25 17:04:00 - [21] - Quote Golden Day wrote: takes note half of these people dont run caldari suits and dont know how to run them that's a good portion of the player base. In other news, I once stole a standard madrugar from a red berry and it had on a light shield booster, afterburner module and a mcru. In the lows it had fitting mods and 1 repair module. I damn near died of laugher and disgust. *As long as 5/6 (83%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP*
Golden Day Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 1465	Posted - 2015.04.25 17:07:00 - [22] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Golden Day wrote: takes note half of these people dont run caldari suits and dont know how to run them that's a good portion of the player base. In other news, I once stole a standard madrugar from a red berry and it had on a light shield booster, afterburner module and a mcru. In the lows it had fitting mods and 1 repair module. I damn near died of laugher and disgust. Wanna know whats more disgusting?? Finding a Caldari State suit on the Gallente side..... FOR THE STATE!
Scheneighnay McBob And the ButtPirates 6212	Posted - 2015.04.25 17:09:00 - [23] - Quote It's also good to note that caldari are meant to fight at long range, yet most caldari players sprint in and start spraying at short range like they think they're gallente. Some details can be ignored
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 1133	Posted - 2015.04.25 17:30:00 - [24] - Quote Excluding vehicles I'm assuming? I think uplinks are pretty much the deciding factor. So, Amarr would win a PC style match. Although Gal being the only ones who can scan is also a huge advantage. In a CQC Min heavies and rep logi's would be deadly. Caldari........... It would almost be interesting to see a game-mode like this. Who cares what some sniper has to say. **--CCP, let's push for the license of Dust/Legion on both current Gen consoles-
Lenz Hong Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 18	Posted - 2015.04.25 17:39:00 - [25] - Quote Golden Day wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Golden Day wrote: takes note half of these people dont run caldari suits and dont know how to run them that's a good portion of the player base. In other news, I once stole a standard madrugar from a red berry and it had on a light shield booster, afterburner module and a mcru. In the lows it had fitting mods and 1 repair module. I damn near died of laugher and disgust. Wanna know whats more disgusting?? Finding a Caldari State suit on the Gallente side..... I don't think so.. Now that the trades will open, some Caldari loyalists may wanna join the Gal FW just to increase their wallets.. I know i'll probably join some Cal FW for this (and.. for the Ratetsu :)) Quote: Caldari........... It would almost be interesting to see a game-mode like this. Assault Rail Rifle and Magsec can do well in either CQC and Long range, so.. it would be a problem since they took a lot.. I would join a game-mode like this... also, why not made FW more Faction limited? Or have at least 2 modes in FW, one "faction loadouts only" and the other as we have now?
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 294	Posted - 2015.04.25 17:47:00 - [26] - Quote Well, in terms of tech- gal, amarr, cal, min In versatility- I think min,gal, amarr, cal 48th Special Operations Force. Twitter- @48SOF
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 10367	Posted - 2015.04.25 17:48:00 - [27] - Quote Talos Vagheitan wrote: Excluding vehicles I'm assuming? I think uplinks are pretty much the deciding factor. So, Amarr would win a PC style match. Although Gal being the only ones who can scan is also a huge advantage. In a CQC Min heavies and rep logi's would be deadly. Caldari........... It would almost be interesting to see a game-mode like this. I'm a firm believer that the Gallente and Caldari should have similar functionalities but just change how they work. For eWar both Caldari and Gallente do information based warfare which means stealth and scanning. how they do it is different however. Gallente are Passive in stealth: Dampeners, bonuses, natural dampening) While Caldari are (should be) Passive in scanning, (Modules, bonuses, natural scan increase range [I wish] ) In the same way Gallente are active in Scanning: Active Scanners and vehicle scanners and Caldari are Active in Stealth: Cloaks and I wish we had a Logistics value that dampened everything in a radius around it. tl;dr Gallente are Active Scan Caldari are Active Stealth Gallente are Passive Stealth Caldari are Passive Scan *As long as 5/6 (83%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP*
Golden Day Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 1466	Posted - 2015.04.25 17:48:00 - [28] - Quote Lenz Hong wrote: Golden Day wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Golden Day wrote: takes note half of these people dont run caldari suits and dont know how to run them that's a good portion of the player base. In other news, I once stole a standard madrugar from a red berry and it had on a light shield booster, afterburner module and a mcru. In the lows it had fitting mods and 1 repair module. I damn near died of laugher and disgust. Wanna know whats more disgusting?? Finding a Caldari State suit on the Gallente side..... I don't think so.. Now that the trades will open, some Caldari loyalists may wanna join the Gal FW just to increase their wallets.. I know i'll probably join some Cal FW for this (and.. for the Ratetsu :)) Quote: Caldari........... It would almost be interesting to see a game-mode like this. Assault Rail Rifle and Magsec can do well in either CQC and Long range, so.. it would be a problem since they took a lot.. I would join a game-mode like this... also, why not made FW more Faction limited? Or have at least 2 modes in FW, one "faction loadouts only" and the other as we have now? If it is "state" gear on a gallente side I still find it gross even if its from trade FOR THE STATE!


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