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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
4480
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Posted - 2015.04.22 08:28:00 -
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Should the buyer pay for first and then receive the item or should the seller send the item and then receive the money?
What's your opinion?
Every trade with me will be money first or no trade.
Shifted in time, your tomorrow, my today.
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VAHZZ
Arrary of Clusters
1513
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Posted - 2015.04.22 08:30:00 -
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Money first, I$K is easily replicable, most of the items that will be sold are not.
If you expect the worst, you'll never be disappointed.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Nos Nothi
4562
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Posted - 2015.04.22 08:34:00 -
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Or you just go through a reputable broker - they'll start springing up like weeds, I'm sure. And in the meantime, I'm sure you can both find someone you trust.
SOGZ PANDA: But i also agree with lorhak cause he's an aussie and aussies are always right
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
4480
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Posted - 2015.04.22 08:37:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Or you just go through a reputable broker - they'll start springing up like weeds, I'm sure. And in the meantime, I'm sure you can both find someone you trust.
Probably for barters.
Shifted in time, your tomorrow, my today.
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
753
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Posted - 2015.04.22 08:38:00 -
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third party handler for items and money.
The new C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y,
(~..)~ Now on Youtube ~(..~)
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Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
1177
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Posted - 2015.04.22 08:38:00 -
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where is chribba |
MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
2689
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Posted - 2015.04.22 08:39:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:Should the buyer pay for first and then receive the item or should the seller send the item and then receive the money?
What's your opinion?
Every trade with me will be money first or no trade.
I would actually recommend trying to find and use a well vouched third party system.
Item goes to third party, isk goes to third party, item goes from third party to buyer, isk goes from third party to seller. If an incorrect amount is sent, or the item never makes it, the transaction is aborted and isk returned.
The important bit is to find a WELL VOUCHED third party (and to pay them a bit for their time). If the third party scams you mention it on the trade forum, which is also where you should be able to find the vouched third party.
This puts a lot less burden on trusting just a random person... and a bit more on trusting a person who is willing to put their reputation out there.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
1177
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Posted - 2015.04.22 08:39:00 -
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seriously though,, i find needing a 3rd party a bit laughable... unless it's 100+ mil deal, then maybe,, |
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ChribbaX
Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control
Otherworld Empire Productions
1616
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Posted - 2015.04.22 08:52:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:where is chribba
Here and happy to assist in the ways I can 
/c
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DUST Server Status
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Anaheim Darko
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.04.22 08:59:00 -
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But using a 3rd party without any system notifying them what they've received?....And from whom?
Chaos!
Caldari Assault ck.0. Former Eve Pilot.
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pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
2063
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Posted - 2015.04.22 09:20:00 -
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Isk up front or no sale . As shaman says many of the items i have for sale are allot rarer than isk.
Proud Caldari purist . Rank 10 colonel omiwarrior.
I fought and bled for the State on Caldari prime.
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G Clone
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
74
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Posted - 2015.04.22 10:30:00 -
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Anaheim Darko wrote:But using a 3rd party without any system notifying them what they've received?....And from whom?
Chaos!
Brushmaster made a system for Dust Lottery, where he can track payments automagically; no reason a similar setup couldn't be made to set up trades, track payment to a central account (Escrow), and verify that items can be transferred. |
dzizur
Nos Nothi
252
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Posted - 2015.04.22 11:07:00 -
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G Clone wrote:Anaheim Darko wrote:But using a 3rd party without any system notifying them what they've received?....And from whom?
Chaos! Brushmaster made a system for Dust Lottery, where he can track payments automagically; no reason a similar setup couldn't be made to set up trades, track payment to a central account (Escrow), and verify that items can be transferred.
I'm not sure, because ISK is tracked by your wallet.
Time will tell, knowing CCP they could forget about it (like with experimental weapons lab) ;) |
PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Rebels New Republic
The Ditanian Alliance
2734
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Posted - 2015.04.22 13:07:00 -
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Money first. Hwving a problem with that cause i said IM COMPLETELY WILLING TO GIVE YOU ISK/TRADE FIRRRRRRRRRRRRST
if you want, but 'maybe' & 'trust issues'
Scout prone to rage holding a shotgun, knives, and REs
Snake Eyes>All
Nothing but MFW/GFW lets see how much i can take
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Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
1424
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Posted - 2015.04.22 13:08:00 -
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It should work like any normal mmo, no stupid unpredictable new eden rules. Both parties put their offer in the window, and both parties must accept for the trade to go through. All that janky backstabbing awox crap is dated.
Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
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ROTFL
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
65
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Posted - 2015.04.22 13:11:00 -
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#1 rule, if you never heard of the guy, its a scam!
#2 rule, do a background check! Stats,likes,dislikes,ect
#3 rule, record everything! Im not sure if CCP will get involved with scammers.
#4 rule, if you get scammed, publicly shame the person. Has potential for abuse.
#5 rule, make a written agreement on correct section of forum (same as eve/contract)
Knowing is half the battle! The other half involves guns! GI JOE!
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
3865
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Posted - 2015.04.22 14:35:00 -
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ROTFL wrote:#1 rule, if you never heard of the guy, its a scam!
#2 rule, do a background check! Stats,likes,dislikes,ect
#3 rule, record everything! Im not sure if CCP will get involved with scammers.
#4 rule, if you get scammed, publicly shame the person. Has potential for abuse.
#5 rule, make a written agreement on correct section of forum (same as eve/contract)
#1 is being quite safe. It isn't necessarily true but is certainly the safest way to go about things.
#2, #4, and #5 is best kept by using something like this probably.
#3 is a probable "No." CCP has never been one to do anything with scammers in EVE as they like the idea that they exist. That MAY change when/if it is Aurum items are traded as CCP has cracked down against Code Scams.
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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VAHZZ
Arrary of Clusters
1519
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Posted - 2015.04.22 14:43:00 -
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ChribbaX wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:where is chribba Here and happy to assist in the ways I can /c
Our savior is here!
If you expect the worst, you'll never be disappointed.
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The Dark Cloud
The Rainbow Effect
4564
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Posted - 2015.04.22 14:46:00 -
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as other people recommended you should use a 3rd party to handle transactions. Yes you pay a little fee for it but its the only way to not get scammed. If the guy you want to trade with refuses that then he probs is a scammer and not trustworthy to begin with. You should only directly trade with people that you can trust like for example corp mates or friends that you know long enough that they wont ripp you off.
I make the scrubs scream and the vets cry.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
11542
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Posted - 2015.04.22 15:07:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:ROTFL wrote:#3 rule, record everything! Im not sure if CCP will get involved with scammers. #3 is a probable "No." CCP has never been one to do anything with scammers in EVE as they like the idea that they exist. That MAY change when/if it is Aurum items are traded as CCP has cracked down against Code Scams.
They won't. Trust me.
The only reason they limit trade currently to ISK-only items is because they want to make sure there are no bugs that could potentially ruin the experience. I would rather lose my boosters to a professional scam artist than to a in-game bug.
Also, AUR items in-game are not codes as they are just items just like anything else in the server. CCP allows AUR items in Eve Online to be scammed regularly.
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