DUST Search - Whats with the Echo tweaks? Have they beeing shoved under a carpet?

The Dark Cloud wrote:

Adipem Nothi wrote:

Big Stuff vs Little Stuff?

Not to say that the little stuff isn't important, but I can see how things like UI/UX improvements and new content (big stuff) might have to be prioritized separately from ongoing polish passes. The more resources committed to balance passes and finetuning, the fewer available for design and development.

If all they did was polish, we'd never see a new patch.

No we where waiting since the 13th of march for this crap to be fixed which they broke with hotfix echo. They broke this stuff, they promised to fix it ASAP and yet here we are with no sign of a fix for these issues. And who knows what they will break with 1.1? There hasnt beeing a single update or hotfix that didnt break something on the game. Because this is a client update i highly expect that something big will get messed up. Heck i bet that some people will find a way to duplicate items with the new trading system and everything goes haywire.

Inb4 we can duplicate officer weapons and every 1 starts running them in pubs.

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The Dark Cloud The Rainbow Effect 4513	Posted - 2015.04.21 02:31:00 - [1] - Quote Since Warlords 1.1 gets released on the 28th april and i havent seen a single word about the messed up things that Hotfix echo brought to us. Excuse me if i have to quote Ratatti: Quote: Well, I am loving it and so are most of you, it seems. We will try to iron out the kinks. 1) AHMG accuracy and range, plus heat decrease maybe 2) STD AHMG ammo 3)Regulators should be low, disp stabs in high, I honestly don't understand how this happened 4)LAV fitting space bigger increase 5)Remove small turrets from SHAVS 6)A few hardwired nanohives/uplinks/proxy didn't get the buff (from bright cloud) -Nanohives that have not received the 3X buff: Compact nanohive and all prototype variants -Drop uplink count has not beeing buffed by 3X but just has beeing buffed by +1 -Proto Proxy mines have a max carry count of 4 (STD/ADV have 9) 7)small blaster dispersion reduction 8) After testing a full 3 STD, 2ADV myofibs callogi, it certainly does not seem its stacking penalties are working. Instead of trying to figure that out in code, I suggest 3 max per fitting. None of this stuff has beeing mentioned in the warlords 1.1 patchnotes not even a single one of them. Im upset that you dont fix things that you broke previously. So im curious if the "Hotfix of a hotfix" will be implemented to the game BEFORE april the 28th. Oh and another thing that has beeing ignored so far is the mobile CRU bug which according to you guys could only be fixed with another clientside update. Cant be that im only aible to select a MCRU when my clone is actually terminated. I make the scrubs scream and the vets cry.
Juno Tristan Obscure Reference 560	Posted - 2015.04.21 02:39:00 - [2] - Quote Yeah still waiting, most are bearable but the proto equipment and solo tank issues are ridiculous to have not been fixed ADS Ramming Revenge! Plasma Cannon Rampage
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 9009	Posted - 2015.04.21 02:41:00 - [3] - Quote Big Stuff vs Little Stuff? Not to say that the little stuff isn't important, but I can see how things like UI/UX improvements and new content (big stuff) might be prioritized separately from ongoing polish passes. The more resources committed to balance passes and bug hunting, the fewer available for design and development. Only so many hours in the day :-) Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Denchlad 7 Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 2107	Posted - 2015.04.21 02:41:00 - [4] - Quote bitter vet thread detected Seriously though these should of been fixed, especially the SHAV turrets. Maybe they'll be ninja tweaked in 1.1, or the inevitable Hotfix to fix what they break in 1.1. "Dench stop hitting your head you Caldari pinball" - m6 Dench's Emporium of Everything! coming soon...
RD Burns Third Degree Burns. 25	Posted - 2015.04.21 02:48:00 - [5] - Quote You deserve a like from every dust merc ever created for calling CCP out on this.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Rebels New Republic The Ditanian Alliance 2728	Posted - 2015.04.21 02:53:00 - [6] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Big Stuff vs Little Stuff? Not to say that the little stuff isn't important, but I can see how things like UI/UX improvements and new content (big stuff) might be prioritized separately from ongoing polish passes. The more resources committed to balance passes and bug hunting, the fewer available for design and development. Only so many hours in the day :-) Little stuff will screw your over faster than the big stuff. To quote Skyler, 'The devil is in the details.' Scout prone to rage holding a shotgun, knives, and REs Snake Eyes>All Nothing but MFW/GFW lets see how much i can take
The Dark Cloud The Rainbow Effect 4517	Posted - 2015.04.21 03:05:00 - [7] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Big Stuff vs Little Stuff? Not to say that the little stuff isn't important, but I can see how things like UI/UX improvements and new content (big stuff) might have to be prioritized separately from ongoing polish passes. The more resources committed to balance passes and finetuning, the fewer available for design and development. If all they did was polish, we'd never see a new patch. No we where waiting since the 13th of march for this crap to be fixed which they broke with hotfix echo. They broke this stuff, they promised to fix it ASAP and yet here we are with no sign of a fix for these issues. And who knows what they will break with 1.1? There hasnt beeing a single update or hotfix that didnt break something on the game. Because this is a client update i highly expect that something big will get messed up. Heck i bet that some people will find a way to duplicate items with the new trading system and everything goes haywire. Inb4 we can duplicate officer weapons and every 1 starts running them in pubs. I make the scrubs scream and the vets cry.
Mobius Wyvern Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 6180	Posted - 2015.04.21 03:26:00 - [8] - Quote The Dark Cloud wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Big Stuff vs Little Stuff? Not to say that the little stuff isn't important, but I can see how things like UI/UX improvements and new content (big stuff) might have to be prioritized separately from ongoing polish passes. The more resources committed to balance passes and finetuning, the fewer available for design and development. If all they did was polish, we'd never see a new patch. No we where waiting since the 13th of march for this crap to be fixed which they broke with hotfix echo. They broke this stuff, they promised to fix it ASAP and yet here we are with no sign of a fix for these issues. And who knows what they will break with 1.1? There hasnt beeing a single update or hotfix that didnt break something on the game. Because this is a client update i highly expect that something big will get messed up. Heck i bet that some people will find a way to duplicate items with the new trading system and everything goes haywire. Inb4 we can duplicate officer weapons and every 1 starts running them in pubs. Whoah bro, that's some serious bittervet. I support Keshava for Gallente Specialist HAV R.I.P. Kesha
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 19347	Posted - 2015.04.21 04:41:00 - [9] - Quote Client patch is a rare time we can go in and manually fix things int eh game; the issues you declare could potentially be fixed in a hotfix; no need to do both at the same time. either way I feel foxtrot will have some things to consider if warlords significantly increases performance or not. CPM 1, Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= ADV HAVs =// Unlocked
Terry Webber Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 665	Posted - 2015.04.21 05:03:00 - [10] - Quote Rattati has stated that they wanted to get a hotfix out before the update releases but will not make it in time. So don't worry, CCP is on it.

byte modal 197	Posted - 2015.04.21 05:36:00 - [11] - Quote quoting ..and all that. from the sticky this was posted in. CCP Rattati wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: SNIP The Dark Cloud wrote: Good job?Angry stuff. If you're talking about balance issues, those are exclusive to hotfixes, not client updates. Hotfixes = Balance Changes Patches = New Features It's really quite simple. It is. I had hoped to get a hotfix tweak in before launch, but we will need to wait a little. It's been hectic getting this release out and also laying the groundwork for PC 2.0. (emphasis mine) also in your own OP quote: The Dark Cloud wrote: Since Warlords 1.1 gets released on the 28th april and i havent seen a single word about the messed up things that Hotfix echo brought to us. Excuse me if i have to quote Ratatti: Quote: Well, I am loving it and so are most of you, it seems. We will try to iron out the kinks. SNIP More ..stuff. (emphasis mine, again. just to be clear) ease off. try. makes sense. also, quoting blocks for context. sorry for the length of post. just... seems odd to jump between two threads when the sticky covers it. yeah, i realize the time stamp. just helping to simplify things for whoever else. stacking quotes is fun! kitten bacon taco (nom)
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 11531	Posted - 2015.04.21 05:49:00 - [12] - Quote Just wait for a hotfix to fix the hotfix problems. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
The Dark Cloud The Rainbow Effect 4528	Posted - 2015.04.21 15:49:00 - [13] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Just wait for a hotfix to fix the hotfix problems. Thats what we currently do. I make the scrubs scream and the vets cry.
Flint Beastgood III GunFall Mobilization 1695	Posted - 2015.04.21 16:22:00 - [14] - Quote This is a very good question. It would've been nice of them to fix the bugs created by Hotfix Echo before releasing another patch which will inevitably bring us even more bugs. Oh well. 'LR4-Trading' Protester
LOL KILLZ LulKlz 11	Posted - 2015.04.21 16:28:00 - [15] - Quote To be a good merc thou shalt adapt or get killed......by me. CEO of LulKlz/ chat channel LulKlz, code 0000 <--- numbers
The Dark Cloud The Rainbow Effect 4531	Posted - 2015.04.21 17:02:00 - [16] - Quote Flint Beastgood III wrote: This is a very good question. It would've been nice of them to fix the bugs created by Hotfix Echo before releasing another patch which will inevitably bring us even more bugs. Oh well. Dont worry we probs just have to wait 2 more months till they fix the problems of hotfix echo and then another month to fix the 1.1 problems. I make the scrubs scream and the vets cry.
Slave of MORTE 400	Posted - 2015.04.21 17:52:00 - [17] - Quote You see my dear friend most of these problems are vehicle problems . And ccp doesn't give 2 ***** about pilots If this was a list of infantry issues it would have been hot fixed shortly after they were reported I'm her slave because amarrians are the best in the sheets #stamina
Raptor Princess ALLOTEC INC 216	Posted - 2015.04.21 17:56:00 - [18] - Quote Slave of MORTE wrote: You see my dear friend most of these problems are vehicle problems . And ccp doesn't give 2 ***** about pilots If this was a list of infantry issues it would have been hot fixed shortly after they were reported We are still waiting on the being deployed into ending battles being fixed too! That's a problem for everyone!


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