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LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:

501st Headstrong wrote:

LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:

HOLY ABYSS wrote:

5) Scouts are the ultimate killer.

It is a bit confusing to me that scouts continue to remain king of the castle.

I think this is just a product of hit detection and lag making them semi invincible at times.

Add to that that they can now move across the map bounding over any obstacles and sprinting at what sometimes seems to be faster than an LAV (yes a bit exaggerated) while delivering a very similar DPS with any weapon as an assault.

Lets not forget that they can do all of this while easily staying off of scans and / or having a high amount of passive visibility of all surrounding peoples locations.

Scouts should have only ever had one weapon slot and one equipment slot so that they have to at least commit to their role.

The fact that they are able to seemingly dodge bullets is not unique to scouts but they are able to take advantage of it the easiest.

Explain how I should commit to my role of going to EHP undetected and dropping an uplink? Sorry if I don't use Res and a Cloak, but you have the wrong scout.

Im not claiming you should be forced to use REs and a cloak.

Im saying that scouts should not be able to run up and shotgun you then run back 30m and hit you with a pistol.

If you want to create your suit to be a close quarters fighter then so be it.

If you want to be an actual scout and sneak around relaying information and grabbing people that stray from the group then so be it.

The list can go on but there is no need for that.

From the sounds of your post you have already committed to a role so really you have no reason to be arguing along with the people that want scouts to remain super soldiers.

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HOLY ABYSS Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2015.04.13 02:19:00 - [1] - Quote Disappointments 1) Warlords - Damage is extremely too HIGH. Really it is just a money scheme. 2) Steroids - People jump 60 Meters in the air. So when I shoot an AV person with a ion cannon I cannot hit him while he spams swarms/plasma cannons. 3) SHAV - Basically a downgrade form of the HAV`s. NO turrets ( but still accounts for the turrets.) IDK 4) Another UNNECECARY nerf to the HMG. I don't even use Heavy's and I think they needed buffed. 5) Scouts are the ultimate killer. 6) Introduction of the infamous cloaks. 7) CCP might of nerfed the cloak a bit too much. However their needs to be another alternitave, because scouts truly are OP when they first came out. 8) Scram buff -_- why??? 9) 5 Million clone challenge - the "BPO "Suit", turned out to me an module". 10) Over nerf / Over Buff almost all the weapons. 11) Damage Mods overused. Too much Damage. Warlord didn't help and mando, and assaults stack damage mods on a scram rifle to two shot me. 12) Over pricing tanks due to all the nerfing of EHP armor/shield. ACCOMPLISHMENTS 1) Attempt to bring back Proto tanks 2) Trying 3) N..O..T..H..I..N..G..... Im really Holy Perfection, CCP decided to ban me Haha CCP what now!
Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3069	Posted - 2015.04.13 02:22:00 - [2] - Quote Proto HAV's have never been in the game........ click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
HOLY ABYSS Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2015.04.13 02:24:00 - [3] - Quote my bad, proto tanks were in general. Im really Holy Perfection, CCP decided to ban me Haha CCP what now!
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 8700	Posted - 2015.04.13 02:41:00 - [4] - Quote HOLY ABYSS wrote: 5) Scouts are the ultimate killer. Care to elaborate? Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 1965	Posted - 2015.04.13 02:44:00 - [5] - Quote Post on a main of DIAF please. :) I literally can not understand how people can survive being so inept.
Boot Booter Titans of Phoenix RUST415 1291	Posted - 2015.04.13 06:07:00 - [6] - Quote Accomplishments Weapon balance is the best it's ever been Suit balance is the best it's ever been both racially and across roles More bpo things All light and sidearm officer weapons Officer suits Experimental weapons Many exploits hammered out There's so many more that I am too lazy to post You post basically boils down to "wah wah I think ttk is too low and I hate the chamber rifle."
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 498	Posted - 2015.04.13 06:53:00 - [7] - Quote HOLY ABYSS wrote: 5) Scouts are the ultimate killer. It is a bit confusing to me that scouts continue to remain king of the castle. I think this is just a product of hit detection and lag making them semi invincible at times. Add to that that they can now move across the map bounding over any obstacles and sprinting at what sometimes seems to be faster than an LAV (yes a bit exaggerated) while delivering a very similar DPS with any weapon as an assault. Lets not forget that they can do all of this while easily staying off of scans and / or having a high amount of passive visibility of all surrounding peoples locations. Scouts should have only ever had one weapon slot and one equipment slot so that they have to at least commit to their role. The fact that they are able to seemingly dodge bullets is not unique to scouts but they are able to take advantage of it the easiest.
501st Headstrong 0uter.Heaven Back and Forth 935	Posted - 2015.04.13 10:49:00 - [8] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: HOLY ABYSS wrote: 5) Scouts are the ultimate killer. It is a bit confusing to me that scouts continue to remain king of the castle. I think this is just a product of hit detection and lag making them semi invincible at times. Add to that that they can now move across the map bounding over any obstacles and sprinting at what sometimes seems to be faster than an LAV (yes a bit exaggerated) while delivering a very similar DPS with any weapon as an assault. Lets not forget that they can do all of this while easily staying off of scans and / or having a high amount of passive visibility of all surrounding peoples locations. Scouts should have only ever had one weapon slot and one equipment slot so that they have to at least commit to their role. The fact that they are able to seemingly dodge bullets is not unique to scouts but they are able to take advantage of it the easiest. Explain how I should commit to my role of going to EHP undetected and dropping an uplink? Sorry if I don't use Res and a Cloak, but you have the wrong scout. "There are no rights. The world owes no one a living."-Sumner *The Mascot of 0uter.Heaven * SWBF Trailer April
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 498	Posted - 2015.04.13 17:37:00 - [9] - Quote 501st Headstrong wrote: LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: HOLY ABYSS wrote: 5) Scouts are the ultimate killer. It is a bit confusing to me that scouts continue to remain king of the castle. I think this is just a product of hit detection and lag making them semi invincible at times. Add to that that they can now move across the map bounding over any obstacles and sprinting at what sometimes seems to be faster than an LAV (yes a bit exaggerated) while delivering a very similar DPS with any weapon as an assault. Lets not forget that they can do all of this while easily staying off of scans and / or having a high amount of passive visibility of all surrounding peoples locations. Scouts should have only ever had one weapon slot and one equipment slot so that they have to at least commit to their role. The fact that they are able to seemingly dodge bullets is not unique to scouts but they are able to take advantage of it the easiest. Explain how I should commit to my role of going to EHP undetected and dropping an uplink? Sorry if I don't use Res and a Cloak, but you have the wrong scout. Im not claiming you should be forced to use REs and a cloak. Im saying that scouts should not be able to run up and shotgun you then run back 30m and hit you with a pistol. If you want to create your suit to be a close quarters fighter then so be it. If you want to be an actual scout and sneak around relaying information and grabbing people that stray from the group then so be it. The list can go on but there is no need for that. From the sounds of your post you have already committed to a role so really you have no reason to be arguing along with the people that want scouts to remain super soldiers.
Stormblade Green KnightKiller's inc. 71	Posted - 2015.04.13 21:39:00 - [10] - Quote SHAVs are a downgrade indeed but not because of the turrents still attached to them..... they have less CPU and PG than the HAVs. One might say... I'm very skilled... yet I'm his apprentice... So what does that say about my mentor?

Crimson ShieId Horizons' Edge 2350	Posted - 2015.04.13 23:39:00 - [11] - Quote OP, you forgot the part about ruining the standard and Assault ScP's. My Plasma Cannon says "Hello" to your face~
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 9385	Posted - 2015.04.14 00:25:00 - [12] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: 501st Headstrong wrote: LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: HOLY ABYSS wrote: 5) Scouts are the ultimate killer. It is a bit confusing to me that scouts continue to remain king of the castle. I think this is just a product of hit detection and lag making them semi invincible at times. Add to that that they can now move across the map bounding over any obstacles and sprinting at what sometimes seems to be faster than an LAV (yes a bit exaggerated) while delivering a very similar DPS with any weapon as an assault. Lets not forget that they can do all of this while easily staying off of scans and / or having a high amount of passive visibility of all surrounding peoples locations. Scouts should have only ever had one weapon slot and one equipment slot so that they have to at least commit to their role. The fact that they are able to seemingly dodge bullets is not unique to scouts but they are able to take advantage of it the easiest. Explain how I should commit to my role of going to EHP undetected and dropping an uplink? Sorry if I don't use Res and a Cloak, but you have the wrong scout. Im not claiming you should be forced to use REs and a cloak. Im saying that scouts should not be able to run up and shotgun you then run back 30m and hit you with a pistol. If you want to create your suit to be a close quarters fighter then so be it. If you want to be an actual scout and sneak around relaying information and grabbing people that stray from the group then so be it. The list can go on but there is no need for that. From the sounds of your post you have already committed to a role so really you have no reason to be arguing along with the people that want scouts to remain super soldiers. Except that they are not super soldiers. Assaults can get to scout speeds, scout like Profile, have way more HP, and thus can do the same thing you are describing, only better. The only advantage Scouts have over Assaults are beating Max Scans, and wearing a Cloak (which is largely a POS). Anything else, an Assault can do better. If you think that Scouts are still what they used to be, you are living in the past. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
HOLY ABYSS Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 4	Posted - 2015.04.14 02:24:00 - [13] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: 501st Headstrong wrote: LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: HOLY ABYSS wrote: 5) Scouts are the ultimate killer. It is a bit confusing to me that scouts continue to remain king of the castle. I think this is just a product of hit detection and lag making them semi invincible at times. Add to that that they can now move across the map bounding over any obstacles and sprinting at what sometimes seems to be faster than an LAV (yes a bit exaggerated) while delivering a very similar DPS with any weapon as an assault. Lets not forget that they can do all of this while easily staying off of scans and / or having a high amount of passive visibility of all surrounding peoples locations. Scouts should have only ever had one weapon slot and one equipment slot so that they have to at least commit to their role. The fact that they are able to seemingly dodge bullets is not unique to scouts but they are able to take advantage of it the easiest. Explain how I should commit to my role of going to EHP undetected and dropping an uplink? Sorry if I don't use Res and a Cloak, but you have the wrong scout. Im not claiming you should be forced to use REs and a cloak. Im saying that scouts should not be able to run up and shotgun you then run back 30m and hit you with a pistol. If you want to create your suit to be a close quarters fighter then so be it. If you want to be an actual scout and sneak around relaying information and grabbing people that stray from the group then so be it. The list can go on but there is no need for that. From the sounds of your post you have already committed to a role so really you have no reason to be arguing along with the people that want scouts to remain super soldiers. Name me one scout that does not use re and shotgun cloaks. Well... one good smart shot gunner. Plus I have around 7 other accounts with 10 mill plus sp. So I have used every suit at proto level. But yes, my primary suit is logi, and tank. However, ive ran everything else in the game. Im really Holy Perfection, CCP decided to ban me Haha CCP what now!
Green Living Gallente Gay Swag Club 1493	Posted - 2015.04.14 02:49:00 - [14] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: HOLY ABYSS wrote: 5) Scouts are the ultimate killer. It is a bit confusing to me that scouts continue to remain king of the castle. I think this is just a product of hit detection and lag making them semi invincible at times. Add to that that they can now move across the map bounding over any obstacles and sprinting at what sometimes seems to be faster than an LAV (yes a bit exaggerated) while delivering a very similar DPS with any weapon as an assault. Lets not forget that they can do all of this while easily staying off of scans and / or having a high amount of passive visibility of all surrounding peoples locations. Scouts should have only ever had one weapon slot and one equipment slot so that they have to at least commit to their role. The fact that they are able to seemingly dodge bullets is not unique to scouts but they are able to take advantage of it the easiest. Been a scout since the update before the introduction of the cloack, (1.7?) My opinion on scout hit detection is that only skilled players are running scout now with the clack Nerf and Ewar getting hammered. While before these changes I always managed a 4+ KDR (Even before introduction of the clack) Things have changed drastically since then for my KDR and playstyle. Im no longer good enough to slay and have been forced into an actual scout role. Just my opinion though. Maybe hit detection is bunk.


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