DUST Search - New graphics to improve gameplay.

Banjo Robertson wrote:

7th Son 7 wrote:

Banjo Robertson wrote:

What this game needs to truly boom is a downgrade in graphics so that the PS3's paltry memory is not so taxed, allowing more things to be done with the game. I propose a downgrade to the levels linked below.
Better performing graphics
Plus it would totally give the game cred with old school gamers.

I once read that 80% of a Human Beings experience comes from sight, don't know how much truth there is in this but it does seem poss I guess. I think with so many high-def games, going backwards is a bad idea. It's like when you watch a show filmed in the 70's, looks kinda old. Plus most people would like the latest and greatest imo.

A friend of mine is a teacher and has had classes of students who haven't seen "The Wizard of Oz" because "it is in black and white"

I don't think it looks bad today, I don't think "Ghostbusters" looks bad today. There are some games with pixel art quality graphics that do look bad today, but others that still hold up imo. There are differences in graphics style, and there are dfiference in graphic quality. 2d pixel per square inch, 3d polygon per square inch, which also have 2d texture painted on top which have their own 2d pixel per square inch level of quality. Etc etc etc.

I'm more of a gameplay over visuals kinda guy, especially since there are many more games that are not-fps than there that are.

Thanks everyone for indulging in my little thread tho :D

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Banjo Robertson Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 515	Posted - 2015.04.11 13:15:00 - [1] - Quote What this game needs to truly boom is a downgrade in graphics so that the PS3's paltry memory is not so taxed, allowing more things to be done with the game. I propose a downgrade to the levels linked below. Better performing graphics Plus it would totally give the game cred with old school gamers.
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 7038	Posted - 2015.04.11 13:16:00 - [2] - Quote Pooooooooort!
TOOMANY NAMES ALREADYTAKEn Going for the gold 1082	Posted - 2015.04.11 14:37:00 - [3] - Quote Useless thread... I smell lock. Found my favorite DJ - ATB
Banjo Robertson Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 515	Posted - 2015.04.11 14:47:00 - [4] - Quote I had heard people here lacked a sense of humor, but I never expected such jimmy carter-esque malaze.
ZED Regent Acid Tech. 303 2	Posted - 2015.04.11 14:53:00 - [5] - Quote Yeah.... those where the days.... what was this again? Ghosts & Gouls style it seems..... Lag kills.....
Knightshade Belladonna Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 1065	Posted - 2015.04.11 15:02:00 - [6] - Quote I'd still play .. as long a core features such as personal progression of skills was still there , the market , FW , and a couple other things.
Mobius Wyvern Sky-FIRE 6014	Posted - 2015.04.11 15:22:00 - [7] - Quote Starhawk manages to look like a current-gen game while running at 1080p and 60 fps. The problem is NOT the PS3, believe me. I support Keshava for Gallente Specialist HAV R.I.P. Kesha
Cody Sietz Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 4469	Posted - 2015.04.11 15:36:00 - [8] - Quote I don't know if my PS3 can handle that. Better drop the colors to monotone. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 9294	Posted - 2015.04.11 15:59:00 - [9] - Quote Banjo Robertson wrote: I had heard people here lacked a sense of humor, but I never expected such jimmy carter-esque malaze. You obviously didn't read the thread to CCP AquarHEAD Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 8000	Posted - 2015.04.11 16:01:00 - [10] - Quote Banjo Robertson wrote: What this game needs to truly boom is a downgrade in graphics so that the PS3's paltry memory is not so taxed, allowing more things to be done with the game. I propose a downgrade to the levels linked below. Better performing graphics Plus it would totally give the game cred with old school gamers. You do realize these graphical improvements you suggest will increase the load on the RAM? I mean look at them! Picturesque! AV

Knightshade Belladonna Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 1066	Posted - 2015.04.11 16:26:00 - [11] - Quote I like to think back on a game called Final Fantasy 7 , that thing had SO much packed into it. They could never manage to do that again with the new gen stuff and make it look pretty, but they accomplished sooo much.. on PS1 Hardware!! Keep me entertained like that , and I couldn't give a **** what it looked like. Though back then it even looked amazing.. them guys knew how to make use of what they had. I still love that game! People always say they need to remake it in HD, but the sad thing is it just is not really all that feasible with how "graphic" hungry people are these days.
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 718	Posted - 2015.04.11 16:34:00 - [12] - Quote Honestly, I'm all for performance over visuals. Granted I don't want to be walking around with wire frame characters shooting 0's and 1's, but they could cut back a little on the lighting and textures. The new C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y, (~..)~ Now on Youtube ~(..~)
Thumb Green The Valyrian Mercenary Army 2218	Posted - 2015.04.11 16:55:00 - [13] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Starhawk manages to look like a current-gen game while running at 1080p and 60 fps. The problem is NOT the PS3, believe me. But it's so much easier to blame it on the PS3 than to fix the incompetence of the original team that fcked dust up. Do you know who I am? I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a small deal, not many people know me. Rated [TV-MA]
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 9302	Posted - 2015.04.11 19:02:00 - [14] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Starhawk manages to look like a current-gen game while running at 1080p and 60 fps. The problem is NOT the PS3, believe me. But it's so much easier to blame it on the PS3 than to fix the incompetence of the original team that fcked dust up. Its a bit of both. But if your expectations were that a developer that has never worked on a console OR an FPS would come right out and hit a home run, you can only blame yourself. Those expectations given the facts were completely unrealistic. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
7th Son 7 BLITZKRIEG7 743	Posted - 2015.04.11 19:16:00 - [15] - Quote Banjo Robertson wrote: What this game needs to truly boom is a downgrade in graphics so that the PS3's paltry memory is not so taxed, allowing more things to be done with the game. I propose a downgrade to the levels linked below. Better performing graphics Plus it would totally give the game cred with old school gamers. I once read that 80% of a Human Beings experience comes from sight, don't know how much truth there is in this but it does seem poss I guess. I think with so many high-def games, going backwards is a bad idea. It's like when you watch a show filmed in the 70's, looks kinda old. Plus most people would like the latest and greatest imo. Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy if possible........--- Stonewall Jackson
Daddrobit You Can Call Me Daddy 1391	Posted - 2015.04.11 19:24:00 - [16] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Starhawk manages to look like a current-gen game while running at 1080p and 60 fps. The problem is NOT the PS3, believe me. Right, comparing the performance of one game to Dust from one of the most successful companies in console and portable gaming that has had experience with working with PlayStation for longer than CCP has been developing EVE online and releasing games on PS3 from before Dust was even a thing prototyped on PC is a fair and balanced assessment. O.G. Pink Fluffy Bunny
Thumb Green The Valyrian Mercenary Army 2221	Posted - 2015.04.11 19:28:00 - [17] - Quote Daddrobit wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Starhawk manages to look like a current-gen game while running at 1080p and 60 fps. The problem is NOT the PS3, believe me. Right, comparing the performance of one game to Dust from one of the most successful companies in console and portable gaming that has had experience with working with PlayStation for longer than CCP has been developing EVE online and releasing games on PS3 from before Dust was even a thing prototyped on PC is a fair and balanced assessment. It is when you're trying to show that the ps3 isn't the problem. Do you know who I am? I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a small deal, not many people know me. Rated [TV-MA]
Knightshade Belladonna Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 1077	Posted - 2015.04.11 19:36:00 - [18] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: Daddrobit wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Starhawk manages to look like a current-gen game while running at 1080p and 60 fps. The problem is NOT the PS3, believe me. Right, comparing the performance of one game to Dust from one of the most successful companies in console and portable gaming that has had experience with working with PlayStation for longer than CCP has been developing EVE online and releasing games on PS3 from before Dust was even a thing prototyped on PC is a fair and balanced assessment. It is when you're trying to show that the ps3 isn't the problem. exactly.. he just admitted that the ps3 is not the problem, it's the experience of the handlers developing on it. The ps3 has plenty of potential for good stuff. Unfortunately , every compnay can't hire the best.. there is only so many of the best..and then it trickles down.. and sadly, when dust got developed.. they got the bottom of the barrel as far as that experience goes. I hate seeing the system be blamed , when it should be obvious it isn't.. otherwise we would have a lot of crappier games.
Squagga Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 474	Posted - 2015.04.11 19:36:00 - [19] - Quote Needs to port to ps4. But it sounds like that will never happen Reloading, the silent killer.
Knightshade Belladonna Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 1077	Posted - 2015.04.11 19:37:00 - [20] - Quote Squagga wrote: Needs to port to ps4. But it sounds like that will never happen then someone will come in and say ps4 can't handle dust after a year.. port to pc only..

Thumb Green The Valyrian Mercenary Army 2222	Posted - 2015.04.11 19:45:00 - [21] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Thumb Green wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Starhawk manages to look like a current-gen game while running at 1080p and 60 fps. The problem is NOT the PS3, believe me. But it's so much easier to blame it on the PS3 than to fix the incompetence of the original team that fcked dust up. Its a bit of both. But if your expectations were that a developer that has never worked on a console OR an FPS would come right out and hit a home run, you can only blame yourself. Those expectations given the facts were completely unrealistic. I never expected a home-run but I did expect them to be able to reliably hit the ball. Do you know who I am? I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a small deal, not many people know me. Rated [TV-MA]
Daddrobit You Can Call Me Daddy 1391	Posted - 2015.04.11 19:45:00 - [22] - Quote Knightshade Belladonna wrote: Thumb Green wrote: Daddrobit wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Starhawk manages to look like a current-gen game while running at 1080p and 60 fps. The problem is NOT the PS3, believe me. Right, comparing the performance of one game to Dust from one of the most successful companies in console and portable gaming that has had experience with working with PlayStation for longer than CCP has been developing EVE online and releasing games on PS3 from before Dust was even a thing prototyped on PC is a fair and balanced assessment. It is when you're trying to show that the ps3 isn't the problem. exactly.. he just admitted that the ps3 is not the problem, it's the experience of the handlers developing on it. The ps3 has plenty of potential for good stuff. Unfortunately , every compnay can't hire the best.. there is only so many of the best..and then it trickles down.. and sadly, when dust got developed.. they got the bottom of the barrel as far as that experience goes. I hate seeing the system be blamed , when it should be obvious it isn't.. otherwise we would have a lot of crappier games. Oh ****, note to self: don't post within the first minutes of waking up... I read it wrong and do agree that the PS3 is only a part of the problem and that initial development of the games shoddy foundation is what hinders the game. Lack of experience, focus, and funding, that's the issue. O.G. Pink Fluffy Bunny
TEBOW BAGGINS 1730	Posted - 2015.04.11 20:15:00 - [23] - Quote i like seeing my merc's reflection tho when i look at the chrome on my vehicles and am not willing to give up the water FX.. i can do with less trees tho.
Thumb Green The Valyrian Mercenary Army 2228	Posted - 2015.04.11 20:32:00 - [24] - Quote TEBOW BAGGINS wrote: i like seeing my merc's reflection tho when i look at the chrome on my vehicles and am not willing to give up the water FX.. i can do with less trees tho. Don't worry I'm working on burning them down.... going to roll Titan if you want in, careful though last time I did I saw RDV's for 3 days. Do you know who I am? I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a small deal, not many people know me. Rated [TV-MA]
Banjo Robertson Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 524	Posted - 2015.04.11 22:07:00 - [25] - Quote 7th Son 7 wrote: Banjo Robertson wrote: What this game needs to truly boom is a downgrade in graphics so that the PS3's paltry memory is not so taxed, allowing more things to be done with the game. I propose a downgrade to the levels linked below. Better performing graphics Plus it would totally give the game cred with old school gamers. I once read that 80% of a Human Beings experience comes from sight, don't know how much truth there is in this but it does seem poss I guess. I think with so many high-def games, going backwards is a bad idea. It's like when you watch a show filmed in the 70's, looks kinda old. Plus most people would like the latest and greatest imo. A friend of mine is a teacher and has had classes of students who haven't seen "The Wizard of Oz" because "it is in black and white" I don't think it looks bad today, I don't think "Ghostbusters" looks bad today. There are some games with pixel art quality graphics that do look bad today, but others that still hold up imo. There are differences in graphics style, and there are dfiference in graphic quality. 2d pixel per square inch, 3d polygon per square inch, which also have 2d texture painted on top which have their own 2d pixel per square inch level of quality. Etc etc etc. I'm more of a gameplay over visuals kinda guy, especially since there are many more games that are not-fps than there that are. Thanks everyone for indulging in my little thread tho :D
TEBOW BAGGINS 1731	Posted - 2015.04.12 03:08:00 - [26] - Quote Banjo Robertson wrote: 7th Son 7 wrote: Banjo Robertson wrote: What this game needs to truly boom is a downgrade in graphics so that the PS3's paltry memory is not so taxed, allowing more things to be done with the game. I propose a downgrade to the levels linked below. Better performing graphics Plus it would totally give the game cred with old school gamers. I once read that 80% of a Human Beings experience comes from sight, don't know how much truth there is in this but it does seem poss I guess. I think with so many high-def games, going backwards is a bad idea. It's like when you watch a show filmed in the 70's, looks kinda old. Plus most people would like the latest and greatest imo. A friend of mine is a teacher and has had classes of students who haven't seen "The Wizard of Oz" because "it is in black and white" I don't think it looks bad today, I don't think "Ghostbusters" looks bad today. There are some games with pixel art quality graphics that do look bad today, but others that still hold up imo. There are differences in graphics style, and there are dfiference in graphic quality. 2d pixel per square inch, 3d polygon per square inch, which also have 2d texture painted on top which have their own 2d pixel per square inch level of quality. Etc etc etc. I'm more of a gameplay over visuals kinda guy, especially since there are many more games that are not-fps than there that are. Thanks everyone for indulging in my little thread tho :D yea it's like saying the star wars prequels are better than the originals because of the computer animation
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2659	Posted - 2015.04.12 05:17:00 - [27] - Quote Knightshade Belladonna wrote: Thumb Green wrote: Daddrobit wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Starhawk manages to look like a current-gen game while running at 1080p and 60 fps. The problem is NOT the PS3, believe me. Right, comparing the performance of one game to Dust from one of the most successful companies in console and portable gaming that has had experience with working with PlayStation for longer than CCP has been developing EVE online and releasing games on PS3 from before Dust was even a thing prototyped on PC is a fair and balanced assessment. It is when you're trying to show that the ps3 isn't the problem. exactly.. he just admitted that the ps3 is not the problem, it's the experience of the handlers developing on it. The ps3 has plenty of potential for good stuff. Unfortunately , every compnay can't hire the best.. there is only so many of the best..and then it trickles down.. and sadly, when dust got developed.. they got the bottom of the barrel as far as that experience goes. I hate seeing the system be blamed , when it should be obvious it isn't.. otherwise we would have a lot of crappier games. I agree. When the game is suffering performance hits from mails and contact lists after 3 years it's a sign. A sign highlighted with friggin' arclights, tbh. Won't even get into voice and audio. Look at the way variations on dropsuits were implemented, or how PC performance is still a mystery. We hear a lot of excuses from CCP at the same time that other companies are releasing product that is squeezing amazing performance out of the PS3. CCP produced a piece of crap, the history of the game's development is a testament to that. Now CCP thinks that Dust is perhaps worth investing in again, but not worth really investing in again. PSN: RationalSpark
Mobius Wyvern Sky-FIRE 6035	Posted - 2015.04.12 05:25:00 - [28] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Starhawk manages to look like a current-gen game while running at 1080p and 60 fps. The problem is NOT the PS3, believe me. But it's so much easier to blame it on the PS3 than to fix the incompetence of the original team that fcked dust up. Hard to fix anything when the rest of the Dev team switched to a PC game. I support Keshava for Gallente Specialist HAV R.I.P. Kesha
A Lousy Gamer Acid Tech. 303 5	Posted - 2015.04.12 05:54:00 - [29] - Quote Knightshade Belladonna wrote: Squagga wrote: Needs to port to ps4. But it sounds like that will never happen then someone will come in and say ps4 can't handle dust after a year.. port to pc only.. they run on almost the same cpu architecture, so if ps4 can't handle it then neither would a pc... i'd say, port to both... A baseline for today? How about an acid-bassline !


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