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jace silencerww D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 148	Posted - 2015.04.15 08:20:00 - [1] - Quote the regulator is as usefull as a one legged man in a butt kicking contest. lol a few reasons why. 1 they are a high slot while the dropsuits is a low slot. why the change? 2 cpu/pg are opposite of dropsuits ones. ei high cpu but low pg cost. right now they cost more than a adv damage mod. 3 delay rate on tanks is 4 & 10 for shield tanks, 6 & 15 for armor tanks and shield LAVS. (really ccp?) 8 & 20 for armor lavs?! 4 HERE IS A BIG ONE-NO WAY TO INCREASE SHIELD RECHARGE RATE! on a shield tank it is 126 while a shield lav has 285?! (fyi shield lavs have 600 shield!) armor LAV has 132 that is higher than a shield tank! WTF?! LOL an armor dropship has 104!
jace silencerww D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 149	Posted - 2015.04.18 14:46:00 - [2] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: jace silencerww wrote: the regulator is as usefull as a one legged man in a butt kicking contest. lol a few reasons why. 1 they are a high slot while the dropsuits is a low slot. why the change? 2 cpu/pg are opposite of dropsuits ones. ei high cpu but low pg cost. right now they cost more than a adv damage mod. 3 delay rate on tanks is 4 & 10 for shield tanks, 6 & 15 for armor tanks and shield LAVS. (really ccp?) 8 & 20 for armor lavs?! 4 HERE IS A BIG ONE-NO WAY TO INCREASE SHIELD RECHARGE RATE! on a shield tank it is 126 while a shield lav has 285?! (fyi shield lavs have 600 shield!) armor LAV has 132 that is higher than a shield tank! WTF?! LOL an armor dropship has 104! 1. Bug 2. Bug what about 3 and 4? a mean if we have shield regulators then please give us shield recharges. look the ARMOR lav has a higher shield recharge rate than a shield tank!
jace silencerww D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 149	Posted - 2015.04.23 13:37:00 - [3] - Quote jace silencerww wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: jace silencerww wrote: the regulator is as usefull as a one legged man in a butt kicking contest. lol a few reasons why. 1 they are a high slot while the dropsuits is a low slot. why the change? 2 cpu/pg are opposite of dropsuits ones. ei high cpu but low pg cost. right now they cost more than a adv damage mod. 3 delay rate on tanks is 4 & 10 for shield tanks, 6 & 15 for armor tanks and shield LAVS. (really ccp?) 8 & 20 for armor lavs?! 4 HERE IS A BIG ONE-NO WAY TO INCREASE SHIELD RECHARGE RATE! on a shield tank it is 126 while a shield lav has 285?! (fyi shield lavs have 600 shield!) armor LAV has 132 that is higher than a shield tank! WTF?! LOL an armor dropship has 104! 1. Bug 2. Bug what about 3 and 4? a mean if we have shield regulators then please give us shield recharges. look the ARMOR lav has a higher shield recharge rate than a shield tank! NO answer from the CPM? I am not surprised. here is another point to a unless skill or needs a touch up. along with my points 3 & 4. Vehicle Shield Regeneration-5% reduction to DEPLETED shield recharge delay per level. so it don't really help most shield vehicles unless they have a bit of armor to get away so their shield come back soon but with shield tanks it is POINTLESS. why? well shield tanks shield recharge rate is 126 per sec (point 4 above) after a 10 second delay so 7.5 with that skill maxed. it is easier and faster to have a shield booster on than the regulator since they are both high slots.
jace silencerww D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 149	Posted - 2015.04.26 16:52:00 - [4] - Quote so still no answer from ccp or cpm. lol
jace silencerww D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 149	Posted - 2015.04.26 18:30:00 - [5] - Quote Lupus Wolf wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: jace silencerww wrote: so still no answer from ccp or cpm. lol Dude, its sunday still. Calm the **** down. Ratatti said the fix to HF-Echo was delayed because 1.1. shiit sucks but theres a fix coming...sometime SoonGäó? read the day those were posted. first one asking what about 3 & 4 was on Posted: 2015.04.18 14:46 that is April 18 at 2:46pm.
jace silencerww D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 149	Posted - 2015.04.27 17:54:00 - [6] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: jace silencerww wrote: Lupus Wolf wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: jace silencerww wrote: so still no answer from ccp or cpm. lol Dude, its sunday still. Calm the **** down. Ratatti said the fix to HF-Echo was delayed because 1.1. shiit sucks but theres a fix coming...sometime SoonGäó? oh please share the post where Rattati said that since I can not find it. first one asking what about 3 & 4 was on Posted: 2015.04.18 14:46 that is April 18 at 2:46pm. and the topic was 2015.04.11 04:14 Go find dark cloud, hes got it permanently quoted in half the posts he makes, calling on ccp to give a date of when itll be fixed. In fact, go trawl through 1.1 Dev blog feedbqck, like page 4 or so found it but he never said delayed but was hoping to get a hotfix in before 1.1
jace silencerww D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 151	Posted - 2015.04.28 05:52:00 - [7] - Quote Tebu Gan wrote: jace silencerww wrote: 4 HERE IS A BIG ONE-NO WAY TO INCREASE SHIELD RECHARGE RATE! on a shield tank it is 126 while a shield lav has 285?! (fyi shield lavs have 600 shield!) armor LAV has 132 that is higher than a shield tank! WTF?! LOL an armor dropship has 104! Yeah, really need a way to increase recharge amount. That's what makes and breaks it on shield suits, dat recharge rate coupled with the shorter recharge times. very true. just look at the shield recharge rates are just ODD to say the least. RECHARGE RATES/SHIELD/DELAY TIMES/ARMOR (not counting skills) LAV - methana- 132 / 300 / 8 & 20 / 1200 saga- 285 / 600 / 6 & 15 / 450 HAV -madrugar- 66 / 1200 / 6 & 15 / 2700 gunnlogi- 126 / 2200 / 4 & 10 / 900 DROPSHIPS- Myron- 224 / 2520 / 8 & 20 / 1265 Python- 224 / 1548 / 4 & 12 / 960 Grimsnes- 104 / 1200 / 10 & 25 / 3425 Incubus- 104 / 950 / 6 & 15 / 2362 ok hmm so the tanks has the lowest shield recharge rate of all vehicles. why? I kinda understand for the armor tanks but still an armor dropship has 22 less shield recharge rate than a shield tank? better yet an armor lav has a higher recharge rate than the shield tank and it has the lowest base shields. LOL MY FAVORITE one is the shield LAV who has the highest recharge rate but the second lowest base shields.hmm what do you think of switching the LAVs and HAVs recharge rates? so why give us vehicle shield regulators which are messed up without fixing the shield recharge rates first
jace silencerww D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 161	Posted - 2015.05.02 19:27:00 - [8] - Quote hmm will CCP answer that or not
jace silencerww D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 163	Posted - 2015.05.07 05:38:00 - [9] - Quote still no answer? hmm I will wait some more I find it really unlikely they will answer or even say point noted. lol but I can still hope.
jace silencerww D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 163	Posted - 2015.05.14 08:03:00 - [10] - Quote ok I am CALLING ANY DEV, CCP OR CPM to answer or at least say they have read this. besides IWS

jace silencerww D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 167	Posted - 2015.05.16 05:29:00 - [11] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: If there wasn't a slot tax on caldari tanks in terms of their low slots, or the absolutely insane way 'fitting optimization' / 'powergrid / cpu increasing' skills worked, we might actually be able to fit heavy boosters or the like. As it is I have only one fit that has managed to squeeze in an enhanced shield regulator on one of my tanks... and I have to say it's pretty nice, you can start to pull shields back between swarm volleys. Cv.0 Komodo (I refuse to call it a gunnlogi anymore). 2x basic shield hardeners (currently every bit as good as proto!) 2x complex heavy extenders 1x complex light booster 1x complex cpu upgrade 1x enhanced shield regulator 2x basic light rails 1x advanced large rail Not perfect, but pretty robust. not bad but the shield regulator is still messed up. the dropsuits ones are high CPU and low PG usage but on vehicles it is medium CPU & high PG. plus even with a complex shield regulator there is no way to increase the shield recharge rate. just look. delay rate on tanks is 4 & 10 for shield tanks, 6 & 15 for armor tanks and shield LAVS. even using a complex reg on a shield tank, it is a 2.6 seconds. swarms can hit ever 2.5 to 3 seconds. so you get luck if you get a full 126 back. HERE IS A BIG ONE-NO WAY TO INCREASE SHIELD RECHARGE RATE! on a shield tank it is 126 while a shield lav has 285?! (fyi shield lavs have 600 shield!) armor LAV has 132 that is higher than a shield tank! WTF?! LOL an armor dropship has 104! I would love a shield recharger that boosts the rate from 126 by the same % as a dropsuit recharger. the proto give you 45% even better the energizer at 65% but at a lost of max shields 6%. that would boost it too 182.7 & 207.9 - 6% total shields. that would not be OP just look at the shield lav of 285.
jace silencerww D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 167	Posted - 2015.05.18 18:05:00 - [12] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: I've been using the regulators and if your good at fitting shields then they are beawhen fitting running the regs I tend to follow the rules of 2 2 and 1 either 2 regs(Best you can fit usually either 1 complex and one basic/enhanced ) 2 hardners (Best you can fit usually 2 complex or 2 enhansed) and 1 heavy extender (usually enhansed ) the other two highs are reserved for nitro s and dammage mods or 1 reg (complex ) and fitting mod . 2 hardners (usually complex ) 2 heavy extenders (usually enhansed ) the last high is reservedfor either a dammage mod or nitro pending on what turret iI'm using. Bear in mind I have max skills for all mods, turrets and vehicles so that dose help when fitting shield tanks so does my tanker alt. again even with 2 it is really not good without a way to increase shield recharge rate. ok on your tank you use 2 regs so shield recharge delay is 1.81 & shield recharge dep. delay is 3.07 & with 1 you times are 2.6 & 4.61 but with 126 shield recharge rate it is only half of an answer to a 2 part problem. how often do you live with no shields? I bet rarely since you have only 900 armor. just think if you had a complex shield recharger like the dropsuits. the recharge would be 126 times 45% (not counting the 10% from the skill) your recharge rate would be 182.7. that is a lot better for a tank. lets say we get the 10% extra now it is 195.3. so yea I want that on my shield tank. I mean think of all the new ways you could set up tanks. do you at least see my point of not having the same ability to have a way to increase your shield recharger rate?

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