Tanks are fine vs eachother tanks are fine vs av..av is completely capable of fulfilling it's job ..get good

Is like a washed down version of chromosome ..team works op

You say teamwork is OP, but if your whole team is fighting two or three tanks, who is fighting the other team? 1 AV'r should be able to take down 1 tank of equal skill, otherwise it becomes a game of tank spam. We all saw it in 1.7. Do we really want to repeat that?

You say teamwork is OP, but if your whole team is fighting two or three tanks, who is fighting the other team? 1 AV'r should be able to take down 1 tank of equal skill, otherwise it becomes a game of tank spam. We all saw it in 1.7. Do we really want to repeat that?

One tank at max costs 1.4 Mil
one av costs 160,000
why should that work exactly??

Because number of shots required to kill something varies with the price?

I'm all for it taking a lot to kill a tank with AV... But it's gotta at least be possible with 1 person.

Because number of shots required to kill something varies with the price?

I'm all for it taking a lot to kill a tank with AV... But it's gotta at least be possible with 1 person.

Jade, the problem is, that if isk is the measure, people like duna, would just sit in their invincible tank, having two corpmates backing them up in tanks aswell, and just slaying everything without any threat...

This is not enjoyable except for the scrub in the tank. So Derpty is absolutely right, AV needs to be a threat if at the same level.
Right now, if the Tank has anybody in his team that is even halfway competent, they will take out the AV guy easiely before the Tank runs out of reps or hardeners. This is not balanced.

When opposed to tank packs, I usually try to get the weaker tanks first, and if not killed several times already, engage the Proto tank as the last. This will however usually not put him at too much risk to loose his tank, and if he has any gunners, chances are good that he gets me first everytime.

But it's gotta at least be possible with 1 person.

Tanks are fine vs eachother tanks are fine vs av..av is completely capable of fulfilling it's job ..get good

Is like a washed down version of chromosome ..team works op

I do it and do it with AV grenades , swarms , PLC and RE's ... I guess it depends on the person .

The swarms take no skill to use.

8/10.

I thought the bait was too obvious. Apparently it was just right.

forge gun or swarms should be high up not next to them the range is amazing with av plus the swarms take no skill to use.
duna is not a fair example if you injure his tank he'll run and call another. As for most objective maps tank spam isn't viable, av shouldn't be easy. There is a spot on a maddy that if hit with a breach forge gun will deal 4000 damage. Av should take skill just like smart tanking if 3 av are on a building marking the objective while 3 maddys drive up? Cordinate the shot aim for one take it out then focus on the next, you'll save ISK they'll waste it

If there are two or three really good tankers that have infantry support it's next to impossible to deal with the good tankers and win the match.

I don't care who you are. I guess it's good that there aren't very many good tankers anymore.

Why do people keep saying this .?. there are more people who use swarms then anything else because not everyone knows how to use a PLC and with that you can only do so much damage , you always need something else like grenades or RE's unless the drivers is just dumb , swarms are easy to get ... everybody has light weapons , very few use heavy weapons and they take more SP's to get and you have to be dedicated to do that I mean the HMG & FG , it's SP's wasted to have them and not use them so people get what's easiest .

Now if swarms were so easy you wouldn't have people complain about how overpowering HAV's are because most people have swarms . Now most people are not dedicated AV players . People talk about forget when fired but most weapons are like that because you don't have to aim , you can strafe fire and with these magnetic ammo that follows you if your in the line of sight ... you can just spam fire and hit whatever is close most of the time .

You have to aim with a swarm unless you will loose the lock , you have to aim with a sniper rifle , you have to aim with a PLC , you have to aim with a FG .. yeah you can quick scope and hip fire both but you wouldn't be as accurate and your not quick scoping from 250m .

Most weapons you don't even have to aim to be effective , now if that's not forget after firing I don't know what is .

Could you imagine this game if every weapons had to be aimed and there was no more instagibtracking ammo fire ?

Think people complain about working now while playing .