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Juno Tristan
Obscure Reference
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Posted - 2015.04.02 01:04:00 -
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Before we move to nerf hardeners can we just stop to consider the tank killer DHAVs are not in the game yet
ADS Ramming Revenge!
Plasma Cannon Rampage
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Mikel Arias
Challengers 506
99
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Posted - 2015.04.02 01:06:00 -
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Didnt think that. Yeah, we should wait and see how it works. Too bad that it wont give me back at least the 75 wp for damage. |
Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
1004
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Posted - 2015.04.02 01:06:00 -
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Juno Tristan wrote:Before we move to nerf hardeners can we just stop to consider the tank killer DHAVs are not in the game yet
a what?
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Marcus Stormfire
G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance
47
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Posted - 2015.04.02 01:09:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Juno Tristan wrote:Before we move to nerf hardeners can we just stop to consider the tank killer DHAVs are not in the game yet a what?
Tank Destroyers. Fast and maneuverable high damage HAV's but they lack in other things like EHP.
Agreed. We should see how Tank Destroyers work first when they are released.
-Marcus
-I don't always kill Mercs with a sidearm, But when I do I use militia.
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Thaddeus Reynolds
Facepunch Security
251
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Posted - 2015.04.02 01:10:00 -
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My big problem with Hardeners Right now is the disparity between Shield and Armor Hardeners...
Both now provide 40% Damage Reduction to their respective buffers, OK (Stats are base stats on Complex Hardeners) Shield Hardener Duration : 24s Shield Hardener Cooldown: 60s
Armor Hardener Duration : 36s Armor Hardener Cooldown: 50s
See any immediate problems here?
Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper.
Vehicle Re-vamp Proposal
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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
1983
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Posted - 2015.04.02 01:18:00 -
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Juno Tristan wrote:Before we move to nerf hardeners can we just stop to consider the tank killer DHAVs are not in the game yet
DHAV's or not, one madrugar with two reps and two hardeners shouldn't be surviving AV from 16 players simultaneously with no effort while the tank driver IRL goes and takes a pee brake for the duration of his hardeners.
"Skill for thee but no skill for me" so is the saying of the swarm infantry.
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Juno Tristan
Obscure Reference
496
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Posted - 2015.04.02 01:23:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Juno Tristan wrote:Before we move to nerf hardeners can we just stop to consider the tank killer DHAVs are not in the game yet DHAV's or not, one madrugar with two reps and two hardeners shouldn't be surviving AV from 16 players simultaneously with no effort while the tank driver IRL goes and takes a pee brake for the duration of his hardeners.
Windows....
Of....
Opportunity!!
ADS Ramming Revenge!
Plasma Cannon Rampage
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Thaddeus Reynolds
Facepunch Security
251
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Posted - 2015.04.02 01:27:00 -
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Juno Tristan wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Juno Tristan wrote:Before we move to nerf hardeners can we just stop to consider the tank killer DHAVs are not in the game yet DHAV's or not, one madrugar with two reps and two hardeners shouldn't be surviving AV from 16 players simultaneously with no effort while the tank driver IRL goes and takes a pee brake for the duration of his hardeners. Windows.... Of.... Opportunity!! Then change Armor hardeners to have the same duration and Cooldown as Shield Hardeners, to move closer to a usable Window of Opportunity...
Also yeah...the window of opportunity has to be big enough to be usable
Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper.
Vehicle Re-vamp Proposal
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
1206
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Posted - 2015.04.02 01:37:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Juno Tristan wrote:Before we move to nerf hardeners can we just stop to consider the tank killer DHAVs are not in the game yet DHAV's or not, one madrugar with two reps and two hardeners shouldn't be surviving AV from 16 players simultaneously with no effort while the tank driver IRL goes and takes a pee brake for the duration of his hardeners.
You do realize that you are hurting your credibility by saying such blather here right? 16 vs 1? 2 vs 1 is enough for guaranteed kills hardeners or not. Exaggerated lies are still lies.
http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU
Dust to Dust
Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
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jordy mack
WarRavens
388
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Posted - 2015.04.02 02:05:00 -
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alot of things arent in the game yet...
Less QQ more PewPew
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Stormblade Green
KnightKiller's inc.
70
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Posted - 2015.04.02 02:08:00 -
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PvE might be sooner than DHAVs... Might
One might say... I'm very skilled... yet I'm his apprentice... So what does that say about my mentor?
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Juno Tristan
Obscure Reference
497
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Posted - 2015.04.02 02:10:00 -
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Thaddeus Reynolds wrote: Then change Armor hardeners to have the same duration and Cooldown as Shield Hardeners, to move closer to a usable Window of Opportunity...
Also yeah...the window of opportunity has to be big enough to be usable
I don't think shield and armour should be the same but the shield mods do need some work, I.e
Reduce hardener fitting Fix boosters & lower their PG Increase passive regen
ADS Ramming Revenge!
Plasma Cannon Rampage
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Thaddeus Reynolds
Facepunch Security
252
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Posted - 2015.04.02 02:12:00 -
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Juno Tristan wrote:Thaddeus Reynolds wrote: Then change Armor hardeners to have the same duration and Cooldown as Shield Hardeners, to move closer to a usable Window of Opportunity...
Also yeah...the window of opportunity has to be big enough to be usable
I don't think shield and armour should be the same but the shield mods do need some work, I.e Reduce hardener fitting Fix boosters & lower their PG Increase passive regen
They do need to be equivalent in power...and currently the Armor Hardener is Just Better
Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper.
Vehicle Re-vamp Proposal
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DDx77
The Exemplars
186
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Posted - 2015.04.02 04:40:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Juno Tristan wrote:Before we move to nerf hardeners can we just stop to consider the tank killer DHAVs are not in the game yet DHAV's or not, one madrugar with two reps and two hardeners shouldn't be surviving AV from 16 players simultaneously with no effort while the tank driver IRL goes and takes a pee brake for the duration of his hardeners.
It is absolutely crazy
I shot THREE proto swarm volleys at a retreating maddy while it had a hardener active and easily 25% armor left
the driver might as well given me the finger as he drove away laughing
May the Dark shine your way
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Stalken Pathfinder
Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn
94
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Posted - 2015.04.02 13:01:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Juno Tristan wrote:Before we move to nerf hardeners can we just stop to consider the tank killer DHAVs are not in the game yet DHAV's or not, one madrugar with two reps and two hardeners shouldn't be surviving AV from 16 players simultaneously with no effort while the tank driver IRL goes and takes a pee brake for the duration of his hardeners.
This just doesn't happen. Sorry. Maybe you can take dmg from 1-2 people while AFK for 20 seconds but good luck getting in any shakes after that pee cause if you're one second late peeling out of that situation and anything hits you once your hardeners are down you pop like a paper m+óch+¬ pi+¦ata.
Things are not as unbalanced as they seem. Tanks are very high risk and reasonably high reward right now. Shield needs a little love to be viable vs armor. Bump shield hardener to 50% maybe or give them an extra 6-10 seconds of hardener duration. Honestly I'd rather see their natural regen doubled or tripled instead of hardeners made stronger. Shield regen rate right now is useless. To be true hit and run tanks the gunlogi need to be able to recover faster not last longer. |
The KTM DuKe
Dead Man's Game RUST415
64
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Posted - 2015.04.02 13:17:00 -
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Juno Tristan wrote:Before we move to nerf hardeners can we just stop to consider the tank killer DHAVs are not in the game yet Wait...those DHAV already exists! Low ehp? Yes, high damage? Yes, good god it s a Jlav, illuminati confirmed.
Alt of H0riz0n Unlimit, DMG director, FOTM chaser
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
1928
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Posted - 2015.04.02 15:24:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Juno Tristan wrote:Before we move to nerf hardeners can we just stop to consider the tank killer DHAVs are not in the game yet DHAV's or not, one madrugar with two reps and two hardeners shouldn't be surviving AV from 16 players simultaneously with no effort while the tank driver IRL goes and takes a pee brake for the duration of his hardeners. Your exaggerating now .
Please just the facts , we already have enough propaganda in regards to other roles like heavies and such ... so please cease .
April fools was yesterday .
16 players simultaneously , this is why we have imbalance issues in this game thus far .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed . #PubsShouldBeRandomPlayers
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
566
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Posted - 2015.04.02 15:27:00 -
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She in a pochantas outfit with clear stilettos is a definite hardener for me
Saying what's on people's minds
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
1928
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Posted - 2015.04.02 15:29:00 -
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DDx77 wrote:
It is absolutely crazy
I shot THREE proto swarm volleys at a retreating maddy while it had a hardener active and easily 25% armor left
the driver might as well given me the finger as he drove away laughing
You must have not been a Min Commando and I have the same thing happen to me when I shoot at Pythons and yes they are shield based but it's still the same ... Pro swarms and they just shake it off .
If they had 25% armor left then they prob were double reaping and I'm sure they didn't stick around for anymore so that's balance ... even more so if it was just you alone .
Next time use AV grenades , I combo them with swarms and can solo a HAV in my Amarr Logi suit .
It's not hard .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed . #PubsShouldBeRandomPlayers
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