Maybe as a game mode, but not for every game mode. Imagine if you do nothing but tanks, but you can't drive a tank until you get x amount of war points because people have declared you OP. Seems fair right?

Maybe as a game mode, but not for every game mode. Imagine if you do nothing but tanks, but you can't drive a tank until you get x amount of war points because people have declared you OP. Seems fair right?

Surely you would just be limited to militia/basic tanks at the start? Which without the proto AV are actually pretty damn strong.

I'm honestly just surprised you're still around

When I get your idea right, this is a different approach to regulate proto-stomping:
Skilled (not SP-wise) low SP players could thereby potentially suppress higher SP players
from only ISK based equipment tier escalating, provided that they are working organized
(this is where matchmaker and team builder come in additionally). Suit and equipment tier
escalation is possible over time and via in-match performance only.

Sounds sweet.
What irks me though is that this solution looks a bit artificial, ISK bound escalation sounds
more natural to how life and death work.
Furthermore, PC should not be handled like this at all. ISK driven gear escalation only.

TBH, I thought I was seeing things. I thought Bad Furry went away not long after "release"

[quote=Derpty Derp] nope all tanks would cost war points. and the pro mods add to the tank cost .

All tanks or all vehicles? Either way, it screws a large portion of the player base.


No more lavs or dropships to start the match and deliver the troops on larger maps... So everyone just starts the match with militia scouts... Doesn't sound very diverse or interesting to me.


If everyone get's their militia of choice, it would at least leave different play styles open.

same with tanks drop ships and lav,s only that you need war points to call in the tank or drop ship

a Lav that's not pro or has not pro mods is free

as far as the large portion of the player base no its not no where near as bad as you make it .
the only players it would mess with are players who run pro 24/7 in pub games not PC .
in PC there should be no cost to pro stuff but pub games needs this.
as i said be for the cost is not set in stone but if your a skilled player you can work by getting kills helping the team and make the uses of logi more of a need if you can only use a suit if you have the points to keep calling it in.
same with tanks and drop ships you dont need them at the start of a pub game. and lav,s work just fine to start out with.

i want dust 514 to be a game about skill that means who wins ... CCP even did say this is Not EVE. and should be a fair for new and old and as of rite now with the player base dropping and game going down hill Fast!
and we bitter vets from the start needs to start talking now ill like alot of us KNEW this was going to happen to this game we tryed to stop it but CCP turned away from us thinking that 14 yr old kids and players that only fps is cod/bf/mw was going to stay with this game longer then 1 yr .

so now that most of them kids are gone and CCP is all in" what do we do now we messed up mode" one players who care about this game need to speak up and come save are game.

and to start we fix pub games yes we need PC but new players dont start out in PC they start in pub games and if you get pro stomped every game in pubs you would leave well that's why .
we make players uses war point they get in battle for that battle to uses there pro stuff .
it cuts down pro stomping and make new players with skill stay long anuff to get into there 1st PC battle and we fix PC by adding all the low sec and a max of planets you can take and fight on. also add ways for new corps to hurt much bigger ones . like a war deck that will cost isk a week like in eve but cuts down the clone spawn of the 2 corps letting crops with out land get into PC.

Sounds like a mechanic that would lead to one sided wipes.

Seriously, think about it. One side has a squad that gets to the "proto" gear first, then starts farming the other side, preventing them from reaching the requirements of the "proto" gear.

The side without the WP would be either forced to spawn nanohives, and waste them on each other for points, or every match would start with hive spam, then go straight to proto.

This idea was not put through logic testing, was it?

i drive a tank .... alot ... im known for tanking ..... as a tanker i dont mined working to get x war points befor calling in my tanks full knowing that other tankers have to do the same thing .
that and when your runing a tank and the other guy is calling out tank affter tank and your K.O.ing him over and over but can do anything els its a be lame and sad that o most anyone can call tanks in just to flood out the other team just because they have cheap tanks with no fit .

so like i said as a tanker i dont mined .

NO!
BAD BAD FURRY!
GO BACK TO YOUR CAVE!

*Cracks whip*

Oh my, I see you two are quite close

NO!
BAD FISH!

*Eats fin*

Maybe as a game mode, but not for every game mode. Imagine if you do nothing but tanks, but you can't drive a tank until you get x amount of war points because people have declared you OP. Seems fair right?

I got distracted and misquoted...

guys stay on topic plz

Well, believe it or not, this was the original design concept for why Warpoints were even a thing. It was an escalation of sorts in the battle so that players -couldn't- just constantly spam tanks.

EDIT: Of course, this was also under the concept that vehicles were inherently more powerful.