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XxBlazikenxX
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2015.03.25 17:33:00 -
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If you destroy a STD HAV, +75, +75, +150 for 300 points total
If you destroy a ADV HAV, +100, +100, +200 for 400 points total
If you destroy a PRO HAV, +125, +125, +250 for 500 points total
This makes it more rewarding for destroying higher tier tanks. This does not translate to dropsuits as dropsuits are a whole other level.
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.03.25 17:39:00 -
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I don't feel like HAV's should be giving points just for hitting them.
In pubs, specifically. All it does is convince the dirty plebs to all go AV while the rest of the team steals the point.
Point systems need to guide stupid people towards the correct choice. Rewarding them too much makes them do stupid things instead.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
7717
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Posted - 2015.03.25 17:48:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:If you destroy a STD HAV, +75, +75, +150 for 300 points total
If you destroy a ADV HAV, +100, +100, +200 for 400 points total
If you destroy a PRO HAV, +125, +125, +250 for 500 points total
This makes it more rewarding for destroying higher tier tanks. This does not translate to dropsuits as dropsuits are a whole other level. If we change the points for AV damage it should go
STD +25 ADV +50 PRO +75
Hitting a tank for a sh*t-ton of damage is hitting a tank for a sh*t-ton of damage. There's no reason to escalate the warpoints.
The warpoints for damage was to address that AV gunners were usually the worst ISK/WP earners per battle because your warpoints were largely dependent upon killing enemies that can eat a magazine or more of your ammo and still not die.
It wasn't there as "Ohhh you're getting deterrent points," nor was it a consolation prize for failing to kill the target. It was so that running AV could have as much value as running a slayer or logi fit, commiserate with the fact that an AV gunner in the right place could salvage an offense or defense against a damn HAV attack.
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.25 17:57:00 -
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I agree, though your numbers are a bit high.
I'd also continue the trend with LAVs (lower) and DSs (between both).
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
7717
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Posted - 2015.03.25 18:03:00 -
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since an LAV is only worth 40, I think at most hitting it is worth 20.
I'm willing to bet that the AV damage thing is oversimplified and applies the same formula against every target without variable.
THat's how I'd do it.
Mostly because I'm incredibly lazy. Even when I'm busting my ass it's entirely so I can chill out for most of the day after I get the hard stuff done.
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Godin Thekiller
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.03.25 19:54:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:I don't feel like HAV's should be giving points just for hitting them.
In pubs, specifically. All it does is convince the dirty plebs to all go AV while the rest of the team steals the point because there is no real infantry resistance.
Point systems need to guide stupid people towards the correct choice. Rewarding them too much makes them do stupid things instead.
There needs to be a way for non combat players to get paid. That's what's wrong with DS's now. Also, it makes a situation to where AV will actively go for vehicles, but don't feel so inclined to kill them to actually get paid for it.
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Godin Thekiller
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.03.25 19:55:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:since an LAV is only worth 40, I think at most hitting it is worth 20.
I'm willing to bet that the AV damage thing is oversimplified and applies the same formula against every target without variable.
THat's how I'd do it.
Mostly because I'm incredibly lazy. Even when I'm busting my ass it's entirely so I can chill out for most of the day after I get the hard stuff done.
it's funny how damaging a LAV is worth more than actually killing one
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
943
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Posted - 2015.03.25 19:59:00 -
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If you overdo it, then we'll be getting payed more to play tractor simulator (farming infantry) rather than actually fending off the other vehicles... Trust me, you don't want that... The AV doesn't hold up well against a large blaster.
Infantry going 4k wp and leaving everyone else with bugger all payout is kinda annoying... Would be more annoying to go full vehicle battle just to get payed sod all for it. |
Godin Thekiller
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.03.25 20:05:00 -
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Derpty Derp wrote:If you overdo it, then we'll be getting payed more to play tractor simulator (farming infantry) rather than actually fending off the other vehicles... Trust me, you don't want that... The AV doesn't hold up well against a large blaster.
Infantry going 4k wp and leaving everyone else with bugger all payout is kinda annoying... Would be more annoying to go full vehicle battle just to get payed sod all for it.
Well, that is generally the case already, so too late?
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
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Posted - 2015.03.25 20:17:00 -
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Can i have 250WP for killing AV?
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The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514
CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2015.03.25 20:52:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Can i have 250WP for killing AV?
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The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514 Don't encourage him.
This thread is a bad idea. Please relocate this bad idea to the battlefield 4 forum.
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XxBlazikenxX
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2015.03.25 21:52:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:I don't feel like HAV's should be giving points just for hitting them.
In pubs, specifically. All it does is convince the dirty plebs to all go AV while the rest of the team steals the point because there is no real infantry resistance.
Point systems need to guide stupid people towards the correct choice. Rewarding them too much makes them do stupid things instead. Perhaps 300 points for killing a STD, 400 for a ADV, and 500 for a PRO, but the points are only rewarded if you actually destroy the tank.
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XxBlazikenxX
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2015.03.25 21:53:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:I agree, though your numbers are a bit high.
I'd also continue the trend with LAVs (lower) and DSs (between both). I wish they added tiers to the LAVs and ADSs.
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.03.25 22:17:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Perhaps 300 points for killing a STD, 400 for a ADV, and 500 for a PRO, but the points are only rewarded if you actually destroy the tank.
Does no one remember the AV giving up trying to kill a vehicle because they got nothing when it escaped (& it is easy to stay alive in a tank) which lead to all this crap in the first place...
Why do we want to keep going in circles?
No one gives up trying to kill a tank just because wp... You get a load of wp when it dies, then you start on the next one they call in. |
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