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hails8n
DEATH BY DESTRUCTION
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Posted - 2015.03.24 20:10:00 -
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It was a completely unnecessary nerf. What else can break a madrugars reps besides multiple Av and remotes? Blasters melt my gunlogis shields faster than ever, it doesn't make sense. Missles would have been the perfect counter to madrugars.
I guess its typical CCP, Nerf Assault dropships/buff swarms , Nerf scanners/buff scouts, Nerf assault rifles/ bring in 2 of the most op rifles in the game. Some things should be left untouched.
Snipe Yo Ass.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
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Posted - 2015.03.24 21:09:00 -
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As a large missile user - they were completely overpowered vs armor, they needed to be nerfed. That said they tweaked them a bit too far in one direction.
A decent chunk of the maddy buffs were also needed.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Forced Death
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
230
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Posted - 2015.03.24 21:25:00 -
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QQ'ing because triple hardener Gunnlogi is not the most OP tank ever anymore. What was supposed to kill your triple hardener Gunnlogi? Blaster tank? Plasma Cannon!?!?
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DarthJT5
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.03.24 22:05:00 -
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Forced Death wrote:QQ'ing because triple hardener Gunnlogi is not the most OP tank ever anymore. What was supposed to kill your triple hardener Gunnlogi? Blaster tank? Plasma Cannon!?!?
Actually, he's QQ'ing because the Large Missile at Proto cannot kill a Madrugar of the same tier. Meanwhile, if your in a Proto Gunnlogi, a Madrugar with a blaster will ruin your day no matter your fit.
Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta.
Veteran Python Pilot for 1 year.
The awnser is always XT missiles....
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hails8n
DEATH BY DESTRUCTION
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Posted - 2015.03.24 22:34:00 -
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DarthJT5 wrote:Forced Death wrote:QQ'ing because triple hardener Gunnlogi is not the most OP tank ever anymore. What was supposed to kill your triple hardener Gunnlogi? Blaster tank? Plasma Cannon!?!? Actually, he's QQ'ing because the Large Missile at Proto cannot kill a Madrugar of the same tier. Meanwhile, if your in a Proto Gunnlogi, a Madrugar with a blaster will ruin your day no matter your fit.
I think they screwed with the reload times too. Its taking me twice as long to get a full magazine and I have LV 4 reload large missles.
Snipe Yo Ass.
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Forced Death
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.03.25 02:15:00 -
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DarthJT5 wrote:Forced Death wrote:QQ'ing because triple hardener Gunnlogi is not the most OP tank ever anymore. What was supposed to kill your triple hardener Gunnlogi? Blaster tank? Plasma Cannon!?!? Actually, he's QQ'ing because the Large Missile at Proto cannot kill a Madrugar of the same tier. Meanwhile, if your in a Proto Gunnlogi, a Madrugar with a blaster will ruin your day no matter your fit.
Yes, armor hardeners do make it tough to kill a Madrugar. However, a nerf will come in time for hardener Madrugars like it did for hardener Gunnlogis
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The dark cloud
Negative-Feedback.
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Posted - 2015.03.25 02:57:00 -
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Dont you know that CCP ratatti is a gallente player and hates everything that is asociated with shields and caldari weaponary? Asking him to buff missiles would be like asking a amarr slavelord to let his minmatarr slave go.
I make the scrubs scream and the vets cry.
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Vesta Opalus
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
548
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Posted - 2015.03.25 03:25:00 -
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DarthJT5 wrote:Forced Death wrote:QQ'ing because triple hardener Gunnlogi is not the most OP tank ever anymore. What was supposed to kill your triple hardener Gunnlogi? Blaster tank? Plasma Cannon!?!? Actually, he's QQ'ing because the Large Missile at Proto cannot kill a Madrugar of the same tier. Meanwhile, if your in a Proto Gunnlogi, a Madrugar with a blaster will ruin your day no matter your fit.
I dont think the turret is at fault though. Proto blaster or AV cant break through madruger reps either. You dont need a missile turret buff, you need a madruger rep module nerf.
I wonder if railguns can make it through the reps if you fit heat sinks and damage mods, I havent played with them enough this patch. |
Vesta Opalus
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
548
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Posted - 2015.03.25 03:26:00 -
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Forced Death wrote:DarthJT5 wrote:Forced Death wrote:QQ'ing because triple hardener Gunnlogi is not the most OP tank ever anymore. What was supposed to kill your triple hardener Gunnlogi? Blaster tank? Plasma Cannon!?!? Actually, he's QQ'ing because the Large Missile at Proto cannot kill a Madrugar of the same tier. Meanwhile, if your in a Proto Gunnlogi, a Madrugar with a blaster will ruin your day no matter your fit. Yes, armor hardeners do make it tough to kill a Madrugar. However, a nerf will come in time for hardener Madrugars like it did for hardener Gunnlogis
It remains to be seen if gunnlogis were actually nerfed. Its impossible to tell because madrugers absolutely dominate everything right now. |
Doc DDD
TeamPlayers
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.03.25 03:28:00 -
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Vesta Opalus wrote:Forced Death wrote:DarthJT5 wrote:Forced Death wrote:QQ'ing because triple hardener Gunnlogi is not the most OP tank ever anymore. What was supposed to kill your triple hardener Gunnlogi? Blaster tank? Plasma Cannon!?!? Actually, he's QQ'ing because the Large Missile at Proto cannot kill a Madrugar of the same tier. Meanwhile, if your in a Proto Gunnlogi, a Madrugar with a blaster will ruin your day no matter your fit. Yes, armor hardeners do make it tough to kill a Madrugar. However, a nerf will come in time for hardener Madrugars like it did for hardener Gunnlogis It remains to be seen if gunnlogis were actually nerfed. Its impossible to tell because madrugers absolutely dominate everything right now.
Gunlogis were nerfed. |
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Vesta Opalus
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
549
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Posted - 2015.03.25 03:41:00 -
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Doc DDD wrote:Vesta Opalus wrote:Forced Death wrote:DarthJT5 wrote:Forced Death wrote:QQ'ing because triple hardener Gunnlogi is not the most OP tank ever anymore. What was supposed to kill your triple hardener Gunnlogi? Blaster tank? Plasma Cannon!?!? Actually, he's QQ'ing because the Large Missile at Proto cannot kill a Madrugar of the same tier. Meanwhile, if your in a Proto Gunnlogi, a Madrugar with a blaster will ruin your day no matter your fit. Yes, armor hardeners do make it tough to kill a Madrugar. However, a nerf will come in time for hardener Madrugars like it did for hardener Gunnlogis It remains to be seen if gunnlogis were actually nerfed. Its impossible to tell because madrugers absolutely dominate everything right now. Gunlogis were nerfed.
Ill reserve judgement until the madruger isnt stomping it every time it gets called onto the field.
The one time I had the opportunity to use swarms on one it was still very difficult to kill. |
Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
1962
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Posted - 2015.03.25 04:06:00 -
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Forced Death wrote:QQ'ing because triple hardener Gunnlogi is not the most OP tank ever anymore. What was supposed to kill your triple hardener Gunnlogi? Blaster tank? Plasma Cannon!?!?
Don't tell me you thing Double hardened Armor tanks with two heavy reps is not OP. Anyway, 3 hardeners on a Gunnlogi takes up like 9% of the CPU on the tank there it is not viable so please refrain from your bullsh*t.
"Skill for thee but no skill for me" so is the saying of the swarm infantry.
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Operative 1174 Uuali
Y.A.M.A.H
537
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Posted - 2015.03.25 05:07:00 -
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Forced Death wrote:QQ'ing because triple hardener Gunnlogi is not the most OP tank ever anymore. What was supposed to kill your triple hardener Gunnlogi? Blaster tank? Plasma Cannon!?!?
Right, now that has been nerfed. No need to buff the other. Same cycle.
Death is a serious businessGǪ So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company.
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
1152
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Posted - 2015.03.25 06:44:00 -
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You know what... nerf reps that we have now... and bring back active rep modules.
Everybody would be happy.
Blaster maddys wouldn't be for every scrub out there.
Caldari Hero
Loyal To The State
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
1902
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Posted - 2015.03.25 10:37:00 -
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hails8n wrote:DarthJT5 wrote:Forced Death wrote:QQ'ing because triple hardener Gunnlogi is not the most OP tank ever anymore. What was supposed to kill your triple hardener Gunnlogi? Blaster tank? Plasma Cannon!?!? Actually, he's QQ'ing because the Large Missile at Proto cannot kill a Madrugar of the same tier. Meanwhile, if your in a Proto Gunnlogi, a Madrugar with a blaster will ruin your day no matter your fit. I think they screwed with the reload times too. Its taking me twice as long to get a full magazine and I have LV 4 reload large missles.
You do know you can fire mid-reload and it's the only turret that can do so .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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DarthJT5
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.03.25 12:30:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:hails8n wrote:DarthJT5 wrote:Forced Death wrote:QQ'ing because triple hardener Gunnlogi is not the most OP tank ever anymore. What was supposed to kill your triple hardener Gunnlogi? Blaster tank? Plasma Cannon!?!? Actually, he's QQ'ing because the Large Missile at Proto cannot kill a Madrugar of the same tier. Meanwhile, if your in a Proto Gunnlogi, a Madrugar with a blaster will ruin your day no matter your fit. I think they screwed with the reload times too. Its taking me twice as long to get a full magazine and I have LV 4 reload large missles. You do know you can fire mid-reload and it's the only turret that can do so .
You do know it takes 6 seconds to even start the reload?
Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta.
Veteran Python Pilot for 1 year.
The awnser is always XT missiles....
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Ghosts Chance
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
3074
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Posted - 2015.03.25 12:38:00 -
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hails8n wrote:DarthJT5 wrote:Forced Death wrote:QQ'ing because triple hardener Gunnlogi is not the most OP tank ever anymore. What was supposed to kill your triple hardener Gunnlogi? Blaster tank? Plasma Cannon!?!? Actually, he's QQ'ing because the Large Missile at Proto cannot kill a Madrugar of the same tier. Meanwhile, if your in a Proto Gunnlogi, a Madrugar with a blaster will ruin your day no matter your fit. I think they screwed with the reload times too. Its taking me twice as long to get a full magazine and I have LV 4 reload large missles.
two words
Reload Glitch
kills maddys dead
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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Hell Destroyer
Eternal Beings
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Posted - 2015.03.25 12:40:00 -
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Vesta Opalus wrote:DarthJT5 wrote:Forced Death wrote:QQ'ing because triple hardener Gunnlogi is not the most OP tank ever anymore. What was supposed to kill your triple hardener Gunnlogi? Blaster tank? Plasma Cannon!?!? Actually, he's QQ'ing because the Large Missile at Proto cannot kill a Madrugar of the same tier. Meanwhile, if your in a Proto Gunnlogi, a Madrugar with a blaster will ruin your day no matter your fit. I dont think the turret is at fault though. Proto blaster or AV cant break through madruger reps either. You dont need a missile turret buff, you need a madruger rep module nerf. I wonder if railguns can make it through the reps if you fit heat sinks and damage mods, I havent played with them enough this patch.
You don't think av can break reps?!?!?! At 1.1-1.3 million isk a proto tank they can still break reps. People running min and stacking dammage mods and than ontop of the running experimental swarms. They did over 2500 dammage. That is almost the base armor of a maddy. Not to mention I now can't hear people putting remotes on my tanks. |
Hell Destroyer
Eternal Beings
14
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Posted - 2015.03.25 12:46:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:You know what... nerf reps that we have now... and bring back active rep modules.
Everybody would be happy.
Blaster maddys wouldn't be for every scrub out there.
If tanks need active reps active hardeners active damage mod and active scanner how are they going to be able to activate half of this stuff? We have a bad module wheel how it is and every tanker can agree with me that they have tried at one point to flip on 2 mods and have shut the one they turned on first off. If we made everything on your drop suit an active mod would that solve proto stomping? |
Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
1159
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Posted - 2015.03.25 13:26:00 -
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Hell Destroyer wrote:Mejt0 wrote:You know what... nerf reps that we have now... and bring back active rep modules.
Everybody would be happy.
Blaster maddys wouldn't be for every scrub out there. If tanks need active reps active hardeners active damage mod and active scanner how are they going to be able to activate half of this stuff? We have a bad module wheel how it is and every tanker can agree with me that they have tried at one point to flip on 2 mods and have shut the one they turned on first off. If we made everything on your drop suit an active mod would that solve proto stomping?
Active reps would give us what we have now, a wave of opportunity. But it would be determinated by rep and hardeners duration.
Now we have double hardened [24\7 or 2 at once] maddys and their wave of opportunity is permament to 46 seconds.
But whatever. I'm driving one of those. If you want to leave them as they're now then i won't mind it.
Caldari Hero
Loyal To The State
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Vesta Opalus
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
559
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Posted - 2015.03.25 15:04:00 -
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Hell Destroyer wrote:Vesta Opalus wrote:DarthJT5 wrote:Forced Death wrote:QQ'ing because triple hardener Gunnlogi is not the most OP tank ever anymore. What was supposed to kill your triple hardener Gunnlogi? Blaster tank? Plasma Cannon!?!? Actually, he's QQ'ing because the Large Missile at Proto cannot kill a Madrugar of the same tier. Meanwhile, if your in a Proto Gunnlogi, a Madrugar with a blaster will ruin your day no matter your fit. I dont think the turret is at fault though. Proto blaster or AV cant break through madruger reps either. You dont need a missile turret buff, you need a madruger rep module nerf. I wonder if railguns can make it through the reps if you fit heat sinks and damage mods, I havent played with them enough this patch. You don't think av can break reps?!?!?! At 1.1-1.3 million isk a proto tank they can still break reps. People running min and stacking dammage mods and than ontop of the running experimental swarms. They did over 2500 dammage. That is almost the base armor of a maddy. Not to mention I now can't hear people putting remotes on my tanks.
Its impossible to kill a 2 rep/2 hardener madruger with a 2 complex dmg mod min commando with any swarm launcher. I've tried it in a controlled test and the health will remain capped at 100% until hardeners go down. |
Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
496
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Posted - 2015.03.26 00:53:00 -
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I saw a 3 reps 1 hardener Advanced madrugar today and the guy was completely invincible. We were 3 guys in AV: me with Std PLC, a friend with proto PLC+2dmg+proto galmando, and a blueberry with an advanced FG. So ok, we all had anti-shield weapons, but we weren't missing a single shot, and this guy didn't give a $hit!!
He was repping faster than 3 AV players shooting at him simultaneously => insane.
Ho and he had a blaster turret which was killing instantly. Fun times.
Fix the game before trying to add anything else.
(Hint: hit detection, lags, glitches,.. you've got some work :) )
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hails8n
DEATH BY DESTRUCTION
70
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Posted - 2015.03.26 17:09:00 -
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Bump
Snipe Yo Ass.
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