DUST Search - What is the point

Summa Militum wrote:

I just played 3 matches of Ambush solo. I used my Advanced Gallente Assault suit with an Advanced Assault Combat Rifle, no proto. I won all 3 matches in first place on my team. First match I went 15-0, second match I went 26-0, and the third match I went 13-0.

When I started playing this game 11 months ago I got completely destroyed. I'm talking 1 or 2 kills, 10+ deaths, and 1 to 2 dozen assists per match. I was not a good player by any means. I never gave up though and I never once asked what was the point of playing this game if I was just going to get my ass whipped by people better than me. I knew that the point in me getting my ass whipped was simply to motivate me to strategize and get better at this game so that I could also whip some ass. That is my mindset for everything; every challenge is an opportunity.

DUST 514 is one of the greatest games I have ever played (I haven't played many games) and it is because it makes you work for your success. No one starts off at the top in this game.

I ask you not to give up on this game. Strategize your game-play and manage your SP wisely. You might get your ass whipped now but if you stick with this game later on you will be the one whippin some ass.

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Darkstalker Astrea Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2015.03.24 03:32:00 - [1] - Quote Of playing this game when people in proto gear go 17 - 0 in part because when you shoot them there is no damage ? I shoot them, I see the flicker that I hit them and after they mow me down in less time than I've ever killed anybody, then I see full shields in the killed by screen I have had people teleport in all kinds of directions & It doesn't help to be permanently scanned the entire match (I realize this is because scans are completely upside down broken) I was pretty convinced you couldn't hack this game but the best way to describe what I'm seeing is - that guy who took no damage from me and coincidentally slayed everyone could be a hacker, or that guy blipping all over? Looks so much like a lag switch..... I do enjoy this game but these are the reasons you can't keep new and sane people interested in Dust for very long
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17823	Posted - 2015.03.24 03:35:00 - [2] - Quote Darkstalker Astrea wrote: Of playing this game when people in proto gear go 17 - 0 in part because when you shoot them there is no damage ? I shoot them, I see the flicker that I hit them and after they mow me down in less time than I've ever killed anybody, then I see full shields in the killed by screen I have had people teleport in all kinds of directions & It doesn't help to be permanently scanned the entire match (I realize this is because scans are completely upside down broken) I was pretty convinced you couldn't hack this game but the best way to describe what I'm seeing is - that guy who took no damage from me and coincidentally slayed everyone could be a hacker, or that guy blipping all over? Looks so much like a lag switch..... I do enjoy this game but these are the reasons you can't keep new and sane people interested in Dust for very long You strike me as a gamer who has played themselves some Demon's or Dark Souls. Raphael: I'm warning you. Do not leave me here. I will find you. Castiel: Maybe one day. Today you're my little bitch
Maken Tosch Dust University Ivy League 11210	Posted - 2015.03.24 03:49:00 - [3] - Quote There is a bit of a lag issue that's impacting hit detection. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Cypher Nil Fireteam Tempest 107	Posted - 2015.03.24 04:05:00 - [4] - Quote I just went 23-1, we lost +20 Million SP Merc Caldari Loyalist Of course we won, now when do I get paid?
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2585	Posted - 2015.03.24 04:25:00 - [5] - Quote Darkstalker Astrea wrote: Of playing this game when people in proto gear go 17 - 0 in part because when you shoot them there is no damage ? I shoot them, I see the flicker that I hit them and after they mow me down in less time than I've ever killed anybody, then I see full shields in the killed by screen I have had people teleport in all kinds of directions & It doesn't help to be permanently scanned the entire match (I realize this is because scans are completely upside down broken) I was pretty convinced you couldn't hack this game but the best way to describe what I'm seeing is - that guy who took no damage from me and coincidentally slayed everyone could be a hacker, or that guy blipping all over? Looks so much like a lag switch..... I do enjoy this game but these are the reasons you can't keep new and sane people interested in Dust for very long Lol i'm so glad you posted this. I've been trying to make the point(for three frakkin years) that if you're gonna make a game brutal you've gotta make the controls and mechanics tight. Demon's Souls is the perfect example. But here in Dust we take a game with crappy mechanics, add liberal explosive spam and add in turbo-bunnyhopping(even though you'll still get stuck on wee ledges and structures). This is why Dust is the Clown Prince of shooters. BTW, metacritc agrees with you, OP. PSN: RationalSpark
Summa Militum Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 338	Posted - 2015.03.24 07:01:00 - [6] - Quote I just played 3 matches of Ambush solo. I used my Advanced Gallente Assault suit with an Advanced Assault Combat Rifle, no proto. I won all 3 matches in first place on my team. First match I went 15-0, second match I went 26-0, and the third match I went 13-0. When I started playing this game 11 months ago I got completely destroyed. I'm talking 1 or 2 kills, 10+ deaths, and 1 to 2 dozen assists per match. I was not a good player by any means. I never gave up though and I never once asked what was the point of playing this game if I was just going to get my ass whipped by people better than me. I knew that the point in me getting my ass whipped was simply to motivate me to strategize and get better at this game so that I could also whip some ass. That is my mindset for everything; every challenge is an opportunity. DUST 514 is one of the greatest games I have ever played (I haven't played many games) and it is because it makes you work for your success. No one starts off at the top in this game. I ask you not to give up on this game. Strategize your game-play and manage your SP wisely. You might get your ass whipped now but if you stick with this game later on you will be the one whippin some ass.
VAHZZ 1027	Posted - 2015.03.24 07:06:00 - [7] - Quote To troll. *BRUH.*
Reign Omega T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1354	Posted - 2015.03.24 07:07:00 - [8] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: I just played 3 matches of Ambush solo. I used my Advanced Gallente Assault suit with an Advanced Assault Combat Rifle, no proto. I won all 3 matches in first place on my team. First match I went 15-0, second match I went 26-0, and the third match I went 13-0. When I started playing this game 11 months ago I got completely destroyed. I'm talking 1 or 2 kills, 10+ deaths, and 1 to 2 dozen assists per match. I was not a good player by any means. I never gave up though and I never once asked what was the point of playing this game if I was just going to get my ass whipped by people better than me. I knew that the point in me getting my ass whipped was simply to motivate me to strategize and get better at this game so that I could also whip some ass. That is my mindset for everything; every challenge is an opportunity. DUST 514 is one of the greatest games I have ever played (I haven't played many games) and it is because it makes you work for your success. No one starts off at the top in this game. I ask you not to give up on this game. Strategize your game-play and manage your SP wisely. You might get your ass whipped now but if you stick with this game later on you will be the one whippin some ass. Hell I've been here for 3 years and still can't shoot. Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2723	Posted - 2015.03.24 07:15:00 - [9] - Quote It's simple... you use a Mass Driver and a Flaylock. I've seen heavies running away in fear from me because of that. These explosions really throw some people off guard. Also: Due to the blast radius the **** hit detection is less of an issue. You will still notice it though. I only use a cheap 6k fitting with a Amarr Templar Logi Suit, Krins Dmg Mod BPO, a Militia Mass Driver and Militia Flaylock and I can kill advanced and protos with no problem. Most games I get 1k - 2k WP without any effort. K/D-Ratio is between 0.9 and 1.5 depending on the game. I don't play often though, so I guess that can be improved on. Quote:** Looks so much like a lag switch..... Why would you even need one? The game has enough lag and hit detection problems anyways. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Sinboto Simmons Dead Man's Game RUST415 7974	Posted - 2015.03.24 08:29:00 - [10] - Quote As much as I love the soul series, these guys pretending that it has no issues whatsoever are full of ***. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja* Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 2 Born of the Brutor tribe

KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1448	Posted - 2015.03.24 08:29:00 - [11] - Quote There are some possible solutions than you getting better (although, getting better will be required). First, you need to make sure you have the network connection right. Don't play when housemates are binging on Netflix. Or uploading a new 50GB game for Steam. Don't play with a wireless connection. Check that the correct ports are open on your firewall/router. Check your server, where are you and which server are you asking for? That is the basics. Now, the tough part: Hit boxes are a problem in Dust, even worse if you have bad network connectivity. Shooting who exactly? What suit? How much shield/armor did they have? Which shotgun are you using? Did you aim down the sights (ADS) or hip fire? What are your skill levels? A shotgun is fun but a sideways shot is the least likely to work, regardless of the weapon. This is New Eden, shooting in the back is usually the best option. Lag switchers have been known to test our patience. It happens. The last thing to consider is how networked multi-player FPS work. You shoot but instead of your shot going directly to the target, it doesn't. First it goes from your PS3 to CCP servers. Then it goes to your target's PS3. The server has to decide who is right if they disagree. Which adds to the time required for a shot to register. You will almost always see the shield flash. That is because it is on your system. The amount of damage is negotiated between CCP servers and the two PS3s (or more). Watch the shield and armor of others in battle. Often the damage continues to accumulate after the bullets have stopped flying. If you expect the game to change so you have a good time ... well, this is New Eden. You might want to read up on that. Good Luck. My favorite tank is a Lightning. Just sayin. 450 resource points, max.
Operative 1174 Uuali Y.A.M.A.H 534	Posted - 2015.03.24 11:23:00 - [12] - Quote It's simple lag. This game calculates everything from a central server. There is delay and those with poorer connections move faster due to frame drop and look like they are moving faster and also are not actually where they are or what they look to you to be doing. Death is a serious businessGÇª So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company.
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 1001	Posted - 2015.03.24 13:09:00 - [13] - Quote Cypher Nil wrote: I just went 23-1, we lost 42-4, lost. Found my favorite DJ - ATB
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game RUST415 1868	Posted - 2015.03.24 13:25:00 - [14] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: As much as I love the soul series, these guys pretending that it has no issues whatsoever are full of ****. And that is the truth.. leave any stone unturned, a scrub will look under it, find an exploit, and go to town with it D.S mechanics.. are good.. but.. I suppose those laggy nude fisters are their version, of laggy Dust slayers Don't get me wrong, it feels great to be naked, I like the breeze.. yet it still makes you a scrub Or I could brick tank that mofo, and put Havels armour on.. I'd still be a scrub.... Or I could hide behind a group and gank you before you know who's hitting you.. damn scrubs xD wow, Dust / Dark Souls ... I'm shocked how easily the levels of scrubby tactics compare, and how there are spammed For The Win !!!! You gotta love online gaming
Michael Epic Horizons' Edge 730	Posted - 2015.03.24 14:33:00 - [15] - Quote Darkstalker Astrea wrote: .........I shoot them, I see the flicker that I hit them and after they mow me down in less time than I've ever killed anybody, then I see full shields in the killed by screen That's lag man....lag from the server or lag from your internet. You see them and you shoot them but where you are shooting they aren't standing so what you see is being damaged when in actuality you are hitting air and they have moved and have killed you before you know it :( Michael Epic's "EPIC" Proposal to his girlfriend :D
Michael Epic Horizons' Edge 730	Posted - 2015.03.24 14:34:00 - [16] - Quote KalOfTheRathi wrote: Lag switchers have been known to test our patience. It happens. It does not happen....cannot lag switch a dedicated server. Michael Epic's "EPIC" Proposal to his girlfriend :D
xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 451	Posted - 2015.03.24 14:48:00 - [17] - Quote Darkstalker Astrea wrote: Of playing this game when people in proto gear go 17 - 0 in part because when you shoot them there is no damage ? I shoot them, I see the flicker that I hit them and after they mow me down in less time than I've ever killed anybody, then I see full shields in the killed by screen I have had people teleport in all kinds of directions & It doesn't help to be permanently scanned the entire match (I realize this is because scans are completely upside down broken) I was pretty convinced you couldn't hack this game but the best way to describe what I'm seeing is - that guy who took no damage from me and coincidentally slayed everyone could be a hacker, or that guy blipping all over? Looks so much like a lag switch..... I do enjoy this game but these are the reasons you can't keep new and sane people interested in Dust for very long Not so much a problem with proto gear (on my alt I still kick ass with recruit gear for lolz) but hit detection and faulty game mechanics I would say happen to be the worst aspect of this game. Plus the fact that CCP doesnt monitor any shady cheaters unless it has to do with money (Then they'll actually put effort to ban you). Can't get that teleporting loser? Imagine a new player knowing that he just shot someone, but the game and the seasoned vet taking advantage of the phantom rounds not causing damage? I'll tell you. It's another lost newcomer turning off dust, and turning on Battlefield 4. *\|LOGi GOD\|* Director of Fatal Absolution
Thor Odinson42 Negative-Feedback 6302	Posted - 2015.03.24 14:59:00 - [18] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: I just played 3 matches of Ambush solo. I used my Advanced Gallente Assault suit with an Advanced Assault Combat Rifle, no proto. I won all 3 matches in first place on my team. First match I went 15-0, second match I went 26-0, and the third match I went 13-0. When I started playing this game 11 months ago I got completely destroyed. I'm talking 1 or 2 kills, 10+ deaths, and 1 to 2 dozen assists per match. I was not a good player by any means. I never gave up though and I never once asked what was the point of playing this game if I was just going to get my ass whipped by people better than me. I knew that the point in me getting my ass whipped was simply to motivate me to strategize and get better at this game so that I could also whip some ass. That is my mindset for everything; every challenge is an opportunity. DUST 514 is one of the greatest games I have ever played (I haven't played many games) and it is because it makes you work for your success. No one starts off at the top in this game. I ask you not to give up on this game. Strategize your game-play and manage your SP wisely. You might get your ass whipped now but if you stick with this game later on you will be the one whippin some ass. I don't see the point in worrying about KDR. I had zero online FPS experience before Dust, I'm playing catch-up. There's no way you can learn to kill by being overly cautious. I'm not saying head first kamikaze 24/7 but it's the repetition that makes you better. There's a little bit of ADHD in my playstyle as well. I will do crazy stuff when I start getting bored.
Haerr Nos Nothi 2597	Posted - 2015.03.24 15:11:00 - [19] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: There is a bit of a lag issue that's impacting hit detection. Just a bit?
Krixus Flux Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 545	Posted - 2015.03.24 15:27:00 - [20] - Quote There is no spoon Saying what's on people's minds



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