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Luk Manag
of Terror
TRE GAFFEL
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Posted - 2015.03.20 16:35:00 -
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On all of my shield tanks I can fit CPU and PG upgrades. I can fit prototype turrets with decent numbers of enhanced extenders and hardeners.
My armor tanks have 1 plate, 1 rep, and 1 hardener and a PG upgrade. I have the proficiency skills at 3, but it is nowhere near enough to double up on anything. I would love to replace the PG upgrade with a second anything (plate/rep/hardener). If I gimp the turret, I might as well not run an expensive 600k tank hull.
What defensive strategy should I go with on a prototype armor tank? Using a low slot for a PG upgrade feels gimped. Do I really need those proficiency skills at 5?
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
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Operative 1174 Uuali
Y.A.M.A.H
525
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Posted - 2015.03.20 16:56:00 -
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Looks like that's the idea with the new tank tiers. It was mentioned in the patch notes that the idea is to fit full proto to a proto tank. Gotta have something to warrant people running the proto tank.
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DUST Fiend
16145
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Posted - 2015.03.20 17:06:00 -
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My go to tank for solo play is
Enhanced Nitrous (possibly complex, I can't remember)
MCRU
Heat Sink
Complex Hardener x2
Complex Heavy Armor Repair x2
Proto small rail x2
Proto Blaster
I have all relevant skills maxed though.
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
3655
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Posted - 2015.03.20 17:15:00 -
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A proto rail HAV that is armor based is relatively easy to fit, but if you want a blaster as your turret selection... That's a tough choice... Something similar to what DUST Fiend uses is what I'd recommend, though personally I never use anything but ADV Nitros as Complex aren't worth it to me.
Small rails are sexy, I highly suggest them at least in your first small turret slot as they are far more useful and eat less PG.
I don't like putting any upgrades, CPU or PG, on my HAVs, not worth it imo.
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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Luk Manag
of Terror
TRE GAFFEL
693
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Posted - 2015.03.20 18:08:00 -
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http://i.imgur.com/3hHoJSS.jpg
This is a basic blaster, 2x basic hardeners, and 2 complex reps on a Marduk. It's not worth the ISK.
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
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Luk Manag
of Terror
TRE GAFFEL
693
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Posted - 2015.03.20 18:12:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:My go to tank for solo play is
Enhanced Nitrous (possibly complex, I can't remember)
MCRU
Heat Sink
Complex Hardener x2
Complex Heavy Armor Repair x2
Proto small rail x2
Proto Blaster
I have all relevant skills maxed though.
I guess I better take my proficiency to 5.
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
3655
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Posted - 2015.03.20 18:18:00 -
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Do the math first and mess around with the protofits website first, sometimes 4 is good enough.
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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Luk Manag
of Terror
TRE GAFFEL
693
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Posted - 2015.03.20 18:24:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Do the math first and mess around with the protofits website first, sometimes 4 is good enough.
I might. I've just had an easy time with my shield tanks and CPU/PG upgrade mods.
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
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MarasdF Loron
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
1076
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Posted - 2015.03.20 18:38:00 -
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If you are using a proto tank then have your skills maxed or go home. I'm sorry, that's how it is with them. And that's the way infantry want them to be, we bow down to infantry, not the other way around.
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
3658
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Posted - 2015.03.20 18:49:00 -
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MarasdF Loron wrote:If you are using a proto tank then have your skills maxed or go home. I'm sorry, that's how it is with them. And that's the way infantry want them to be, we bow down to infantry, not the other way around.
You can fit a proto HAV without maxed skills if you have one or two or so modules not "protoed out."
And that's fair.
Infantry can't fit pure proto on a suit without maxing every skill.
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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MarasdF Loron
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
1076
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Posted - 2015.03.20 18:55:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:If you are using a proto tank then have your skills maxed or go home. I'm sorry, that's how it is with them. And that's the way infantry want them to be, we bow down to infantry, not the other way around. You can fit a proto HAV without maxed skills if you have one or two or so modules not "protoed out." And that's fair. Infantry can't fit pure proto on a suit without maxing every skill, and even then some fittings are still outright impossible and require you to downgrade some items to ADV.
You can fit it without being completely maxed out, but can you make a competitive fit without maxing out all relevant skills? I don't think so.
And tanks cannot have full proto fits even with maxed out skills, and neither can all infantry as far as I know.
This is fair.
However I am not gonna go into what is not fair here.
EDIT: Anyway proto tanks are only slightly better than standard tanks used to be. I cannot make some of my more than viable pre-Echo Maddy fits on these new proto Madrugars. Of course depending on your fitting choice you can make them better in some areas and worse in others. But with more than double the cost of what it used to be.
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Luk Manag
of Terror
TRE GAFFEL
702
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Posted - 2015.03.20 22:37:00 -
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Actually, the problem is with the Marduk.
Prototype Madrugar had no problem with 2 complex hardeners, 2 complex reps, enhanced blaster damage amp, and prototype blaster. No more skills than proficiency 3 needed.
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
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