So I just noticed (herp de derp i dont usually pay attention to all these things) that the Min Assault has a faster spring speed than the Gal Scout! How outragious! These things are running around with sprint mods and shotguns being even better scouts than the real scouts! Sure they dont do EWAR as good, but they dont need EWAR because they are sprinting at you faster than a speeding bullet, only the keenly aware are able to react in enough time.

CCP Rattatai if you want to keep the Min Assault as fast as it is, please buff the speeds of real scouts to compensate, or nerf the speed of the Min Assault so its still the fastest assault but not as fast as any of the scouts (except maybe the amaar scout, but I dunno, its still up for debate)

So sprint will save someone from 24\7 scans?
Are you playing the same game as i do?
Cuz assaults with SG are scanned and killed.

So sprint will save someone from 24\7 scans?
Are you playing the same game as i do?
Cuz assaults with SG are scanned and killed.

So I just noticed (herp de derp i dont usually pay attention to all these things) that the Min Assault has a faster spring speed than the Gal Scout! How outragious! These things are running around with sprint mods and shotguns being even better scouts than the real scouts! Sure they dont do EWAR as good, but they dont need EWAR because they are sprinting at you faster than a speeding bullet, only the keenly aware are able to react in enough time.

CCP Rattatai if you want to keep the Min Assault as fast as it is, please buff the speeds of real scouts to compensate, or nerf the speed of the Min Assault so its still the fastest assault but not as fast as any of the scouts (except maybe the amaar scout, but I dunno, its still up for debate)

im fairly certain base sprint speed on all scouts (except amarr) are higher than min assault. Min assault does need looking at though.

This thread lacks any kind of number, math and information.
And it's also wrong in its first statement.

i think the fact that one scanner can light up the whole team for everyone is the problem. I think (i hate that im saying this) team scans should only show equipment. this might help to alleviate the problem.

Since it doesnt start with EWAR it doesnt have to put low slots into dampening if it doesnt want to.

The stupidest thing I have read in 2 years of Dust.

Minmatar Assault is 0.1m/s slower than the Gallente Scout.

You must not read your own posts you damn ******! Anything you say would make someone dumber just for knowing how much of a 'special little guy' you are.

Scouts are more likely to use a low slot for a dampener than assaults, by virtue of wanting to keep the advantage of the EWAR they already have. One dampener on an assault is ok, but not nessisary. One dampener on a scout is almost essential. Lower base HP means you need to be smarter in your positioning to keep out of sight, and also have dampening to make sure you dont get scanned. And as a scout you probably going to want either a reactive or ferroscale plate too, and this, and that, and so on.

A Gallente scout or amarr scout decked out only with sprinting modules in the low slots and using a shotgun will be worse off in general than a minmitar assault decked out with only sprinting modules in the slow slots and a shotgun.

That has to be the reason gal scout with shotgun is the second best killer combo in PC. But I guess PC players dont know ****...

That has to be the reason gal scout with shotgun is the second best killer combo in PC. But I guess PC players dont know ****...

So sprint will save someone from 24\7 scans?
Are you playing the same game as i do?
Cuz assaults with SG are scanned and killed.

It's pc dominant, only a few people I know still run scouts in pc.. And that's only for 2 equipment
Anything in this game gets scanned there is no avoiding it now.

gallente scout and caldari scout can still avoid all scans that hasn't changed. most PC players just find the speed, HP, and regen of the assault suit to be more combat killing effective then the ability to not be scaned of a scout. but slaying is not the only role in dust but it is everyones favorite role to do.

It's pc dominant, only a few people I know still run scouts in pc.. And that's only for 2 equipment
Anything in this game gets scanned there is no avoiding it now.

Thanks for the backup data! I was just lookin at the suit into on the 'show info' stuff, wasnt able to check an actual dropsuit fitting to see how it compared.

Pretty much. I think you need at least profile damps to avoid a Proto GalLogi(maybe 3, but ill just work under the assumption that it's 2)

So you can run 2 damps to get away from scans, 1 kincat and a cardio mod and you are now have a speed advantage and slightly more stamina then a MinAssault. You also have less ehp, half a point more repair, 5 extra shield recharge, a extra equipment slot(was more useful before cloaks were nerfed) and 2 less high slots.

im fairly certain base sprint speed on all scouts (except amarr) are higher than min assault. Min assault does need looking at though.