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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2015.03.13 22:30:00 -
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Remember this?
Please go through with the remote explosive changes you had planned. By which I am referring to the plan of not only adding packed REs with high damage and low splash (already done), and also increasing the arm time of regular REs to 5 seconds.
The current regular REs are still being abused as grenade frisbees instead of just being used to set traps. I could go in detail and explain why it is a balance issue, but others have already done so, and I think the problem with rapid-detonating 1K+ damage is explosively obvious.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.03.13 22:31:00 -
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And now you can use them as bombs.
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dy5t0pia
The dyst0pian Corporation
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Posted - 2015.03.13 22:37:00 -
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Even when they (if they) do what you are asking, I'm 100% positive it will not stop your QQ or the heavy QQ about RE's. Looking forward to your next RE QQ thread... 
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2015.03.13 22:44:00 -
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dy5t0pia wrote:Even when they (if they) do what you are asking, I'm 100% positive it will not stop your QQ or the heavy QQ about RE's. Looking forward to your next RE QQ thread...
It's amazing how people dismiss legitimate balance issues as just "QQ" to defend their crutch, especially without any reasoning as to how the item in questioning is balanced. I'm not the least bit surprised though.
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Velvet Overkill
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Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.13 22:49:00 -
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This is really needed. |
Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2015.03.13 22:49:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:And now you can use them as bombs.
*puts on monocle and top hat*
But they were already bombs before the update.
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Research CLONE54344
Sarum Family Rifles
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Posted - 2015.03.13 22:53:00 -
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I like the suggestion of having to arm the RE's. You place them and then activate them in a similar manner as hacking an installation. |
Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.13 22:54:00 -
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if that becomes a thing, ill frisbee them and then shoot my MD at them.
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dy5t0pia
The dyst0pian Corporation
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Posted - 2015.03.13 23:33:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:dy5t0pia wrote:Even when they (if they) do what you are asking, I'm 100% positive it will not stop your QQ or the heavy QQ about RE's. Looking forward to your next RE QQ thread... It's amazing how people dismiss legitimate balance issues as just "QQ" to defend their crutch, especially without any reasoning as to how the item in questioning is balanced. I'm not the least bit surprised though.
Lol, I did not dismiss the idea of balancing them -which in my opinion yes, they are balanced- I was merely stating the fact that if they do balance the RE's in the way YOU think YOU want them balanced, it will almost certainly not be the end of your NERF RE QQ threads.
Edit: you people probably won't be happy until you get RE's completely removed from the game.
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Archduke Ferd1nand
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.03.14 01:12:00 -
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Im sorry I killed you with them. I was out of all other ammo.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2015.03.14 02:08:00 -
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dy5t0pia wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:dy5t0pia wrote:Even when they (if they) do what you are asking, I'm 100% positive it will not stop your QQ or the heavy QQ about RE's. Looking forward to your next RE QQ thread... It's amazing how people dismiss legitimate balance issues as just "QQ" to defend their crutch, especially without any reasoning as to how the item in questioning is balanced. I'm not the least bit surprised though. Lol, I did not dismiss the idea of balancing them -which in my opinion yes, they are balanced- I was merely stating the fact that if they do balance the RE's in the way YOU think YOU want them balanced, it will almost certainly not be the end of your NERF RE QQ threads. Edit: you people probably won't be happy until you get RE's completely removed from the game.
First of all, it was Rattati's proposed fix, not my idea.
Your assumption that I will always have problems with them is completely unfounded.
You still haven't put forward any type of explanation for how something that does twice+ the damage of core locus grenades in about the same time is somehow balanced.
Archduke Ferd1nand wrote:Im sorry I killed you with them. I was out of all other ammo.
I would have remembered being killed by you, and you're supposed to be dead. The Serbian nationalist group called Black Hand killed you, and triggered WW1... unless you faked your death as part of a vast conspiracy to start the war.
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Green Means Go
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.14 02:20:00 -
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They can nerf them all you want! You will STILL die by them! Why you ask? Because people don't clear an area before running through it like Rambo! Ever heard of a scanner? Doh!
I personally wait for some blueberry to be distracted by some other blueberry! Then bye bye berries!
Seriously, if you let some clown rain Re's on your head...... You deserved it.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2015.03.14 02:31:00 -
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Green Means Go wrote:They can nerf them all you want! You will STILL die by them! Why you ask? Because people don't clear an area before running through it like Rambo! Ever heard of a scanner? Doh!
I personally wait for some blueberry to be distracted by some other blueberry! Then bye bye berries!
Seriously, if you let some clown rain Re's on your head...... You deserved it.
Fool me once.......
I have no problems with them being used like traps, and I agree with you that people should use scanners or at least their eyes to check for them. What I DO have a problem with is them being used like grenades; that is being thrown at an enemy in the middle of a gunfight and quickly detonated before the enemy has any chance to react.
The fact that you didn't understand my problem with them shows me that you din't take the time to read and comprehend the original post.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2015.03.14 18:42:00 -
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Still would like.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.03.14 19:24:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:dy5t0pia wrote:Even when they (if they) do what you are asking, I'm 100% positive it will not stop your QQ or the heavy QQ about RE's. Looking forward to your next RE QQ thread... It's amazing how people dismiss legitimate balance issues as just "QQ" to defend their crutch, especially without any reasoning as to how the item in questioning is balanced. I'm not the least bit surprised though.
Lots of people have pointed out how REs are balanced.
I have several times.
If a Heavy walks at 4 or 5 M/s, it takes 2 seconds walking in one direction to get out of the REs blast radius. Not to mention, you also have the option of killing the RE thrower within 3 seconds. That is around 6x the amount of time required to actually kill someone with your HMG.
The reason REs seem abused to heavies is because its one of the few things that can actually kill them! My Minja don't notice anything because EVERYTHING can kill me. Now including using Myofibrils. I can literally die from jumping now.
When heavy Kills per Spawn reaches a reasonable level, then we can start talking about how OP REs are.
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Timtron Victory
Horizons' Edge
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Posted - 2015.03.14 21:14:00 -
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5 whole seconds? I think that is ridiculous, only those playing heavies or logis that are stuck to one heavy an entire match think this makes sense. Players can move at up to 11m/s. You stay in one spot for 5 seconds and you are dead. Most weapons deal over 300 damage per second. In essence only heavies should carry remotes.
I dont care if the arming time is 30 seconds, but remotes should be like land mines and detonate on contact.
Let me put it another way you can respawn in 3 seconds, so why I kill someone and start setting remotes, he/she comes back and kills me with his fastest suit
Bad idea. I am sleepy so forgive any poor grammar
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Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2015.03.14 22:17:00 -
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Perhaps make it so REs need to be manually armed before detonation. So when you hit RE detonation it arms all unarmed REs placed and detonates all currently armed REs. This gives about 2 seconds delay between an RE landing and it exploding, but also rewards strategic RE users who will arm certain REs and leave others unarmed based on enemy movement.
Or make REs need to be set in front of you and unable to be thrown.
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Timtron Victory
Horizons' Edge
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Posted - 2015.03.14 22:27:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:Perhaps make it so REs need to be manually armed before detonation. So when you hit RE detonation it arms all unarmed REs placed and detonates all currently armed REs. This gives about 2 seconds delay between an RE landing and it exploding, but also rewards strategic RE users who will arm certain REs and leave others unarmed based on enemy movement.
Or make REs need to be set in front of you and unable to be thrown.
You all seem to be complaining about how remote explosives are too effective against *fill in the blank*
How do you balance *fill in the blank* when RE's are nerfed?
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2015.04.07 20:18:00 -
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Timtron Victory wrote:Vyzion Eyri wrote:Perhaps make it so REs need to be manually armed before detonation. So when you hit RE detonation it arms all unarmed REs placed and detonates all currently armed REs. This gives about 2 seconds delay between an RE landing and it exploding, but also rewards strategic RE users who will arm certain REs and leave others unarmed based on enemy movement.
Or make REs need to be set in front of you and unable to be thrown. You all seem to be complaining about how remote explosives are too effective against *fill in the blank* How do you balance *fill in the blank* when RE's are nerfed?
Oh right, because infantry in general is overpowered and needs REs to balance it
I don't know why you need frisbee grenades that deal 1000+ damage, REs would still be great as traps even with higher arm time.
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7th Son 7
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Posted - 2015.04.07 20:24:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Remember this?Please go through with the remote explosive changes you had planned. By which I am referring to the plan of not only adding packed REs with high damage and low splash (already done), and also increasing the arm time of regular REs to 5 seconds. The current regular REs are still being abused as grenade frisbees instead of just being used to set traps. I could go in detail and explain why it is a balance issue, but others have already done so, and I think the problem with rapid-detonating 1K+ damage is explosively obvious.
Yep, Grenade Frisbees about some it up. +1
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Atlas Donovan
The Immortal Order
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Posted - 2015.04.07 20:48:00 -
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I have yet to use RE's but they seem like the reason to play this game and they seem extra cool...why would you want to nerf a legitimate explosive? |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.04.07 20:54:00 -
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I thought packed REs were bugged?
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2015.04.21 07:03:00 -
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Still want
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.04.21 07:12:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Remember this?Please go through with the remote explosive changes you had planned. By which I am referring to the plan of not only adding packed REs with high damage and low splash (already done), and also increasing the arm time of regular REs to 5 seconds. The current regular REs are still being abused as grenade frisbees instead of just being used to set traps. I could go in detail and explain why it is a balance issue, but others have already done so, and I think the problem with rapid-detonating 1K+ damage is explosively obvious.
I hope you factored in the speed of switching guns. cause 5 seconds to detonate? Nope, gonna shoot it before then.
Only corner hoggers who don't want any way of being killed don't like RE's. :/
Also, the only people I see get killed by RE's are usually in a pack, and/or being tunnel-blind.
Unsurprisingly, these same people get killed by Shotguns and NovaKnives.
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IVIaster LUKE
Art.of.Death
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Posted - 2015.04.21 10:48:00 -
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I guess no more Meleeing with remotes.
Ahh ha! No wonder this clone was cheap.
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