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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
875
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Posted - 2015.03.13 20:54:00 -
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Currently FW does not work at all. Dont believe me? Go and try to que for any faction and the timer stays at 0:00 which means that there is allmost nobody playing it. I strongly propose that you merge the 4 factions into 2 alliances and you earn alliance LP which you can then spend. It would work out like this:
Caldari+Amarr = alliance 1 Minmatarr+Gallente = alliance 2
That way FW players would be more concentrated and not scattered among the 4 factions trying to get a que working. Seperating the allready small FW playerbase among 4 factions does more harm then good. It would make aswell FW boosters more appealing to buy (not boosting with people!). The whole thing would work out like this:
-You que for alliance 1 and that means you fight alliance 2. -you earn alliance 1 LP and reputation but loose reputation towards alliance 2. -Alliance 1 LP can be spend on caldari/amarr items in the alliance 1 store (the whole thing works ofcourse the other way around)
Another thing is FW needs aswell a ISK payout. Not as high like in pub matches but lets say you could earn LP and 50% of that what you would earn in a pub match as ISK payout. Additionally add the same salvage system that is in PC. FW needs all the help it can get cause in its current state its unplayable.
And no the random Q-syncs that are happening in there are not the solution to it. You cannot rely on the big corps to sort this mess out. And its even more concerning cause if 2 corps would Q-sync they could boost or farm the living crap out of this. Like for example once every 1 is in the warbarge the other corp completely quits and that would generate free LP. That corp then plays a ambush match (to kill time) and then they just take turns on who earns LP.
Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
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Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion
2547
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Posted - 2015.03.13 21:14:00 -
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Firstly the idea of merging FW battles for the two alliances is intriguing. Honestly I've only been playing FW lately and that hasn't been a thought that crossed my mind yet but could potentially work well in terms of reducing those scary queue times.
However the alliance LP thing could be too far. I'd say you choose to fight for one faction but the matchmaker puts you with your allied faction and against the two factions of the other alliance. So say I queued as Minmatar, my team will have people who queue for Minmatar and Gallente FW, whilst the enemy team consists of Caldari and Amarr FW participants. That way LP gain and standing gain can remain how they are and TECHNICALLY people can still fight for weird factional combos like GalAmarr and CalMatar if they so chose, without getting stuck in a loop of gaining and losing faction standings.
Next up, in terms of an ISK incentive, I don't think that's the right way to go about it. Daily missions for me have been helping a ton with paying for my ultra cheap FW suits. This does bring up a cool idea about FW-specific missions that let you earn extra LP and standing points though. Could be worth considering.
Finally, Yes I've also fought against queue-syncers and yes it's almost like free LP against the other uncoordinated side but I'm not going to admit I feel completely defeated by it and ask CCP to protect me for being too lazy to squad up. If a Corp can field 6-16 people for the sole purpose of FW they deserve the match, but I'll still fight tooth and nail to try stop 'em and maybe snag a few proto kills.
> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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Research CLONE54344
Sarum Family Rifles
15
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Posted - 2015.03.13 22:50:00 -
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I think a great way to imporve FW would be to limit dropsuit options to the race you are fighting for. There should be a seperate fit menu where you are only allowed to choose from the racial variant of the "combat loadout", "defender special issue", and a logi and commando version of those loadouts to go along with it. |
Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
5913
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Posted - 2015.03.13 22:57:00 -
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I honestly hate this idea. To me this is just a band aid fix for an open wound. To truly fix Fw you need to provide incentive to play it. And this does nothing but gather what's left and dumps it into a pot.
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LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
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Cypher Nil
Fireteam Tempest
69
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Posted - 2015.03.13 23:22:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:Currently FW does not work at all. Dont believe me? Go and try to que for any faction and the timer stays at 0:00 which means that there is allmost nobody playing it. I strongly propose that you merge the 4 factions into 2 alliances and you earn alliance LP which you can then spend. It would work out like this:
Caldari+Amarr = alliance 1 Minmatarr+Gallente = alliance 2
That way FW players would be more concentrated and not scattered among the 4 factions trying to get a que working. Seperating the allready small FW playerbase among 4 factions does more harm then good. It would make aswell FW boosters more appealing to buy (not boosting with people!). The whole thing would work out like this:
-You que for alliance 1 and that means you fight alliance 2. -you earn alliance 1 LP and reputation but loose reputation towards alliance 2. -Alliance 1 LP can be spend on caldari/amarr items in the alliance 1 store (the whole thing works ofcourse the other way around)
Another thing is FW needs aswell a ISK payout. Not as high like in pub matches but lets say you could earn LP and 50% of that what you would earn in a pub match as ISK payout. Additionally add the same salvage system that is in PC. FW needs all the help it can get cause in its current state its unplayable.
And no the random Q-syncs that are happening in there are not the solution to it. You cannot rely on the big corps to sort this mess out. And its even more concerning cause if 2 corps would Q-sync they could boost or farm the living crap out of this. Like for example once every 1 is in the warbarge the other corp completely quits and that would generate free LP. That corp then plays a ambush match (to kill time) and then they just take turns on who earns LP.
Theres noone else playing, please etll me you havent noticed this game only has 1500 - 2000 player online at one time. theres nothing wrong with the matchmaking system, this game is just dead.
Its ok, I'm a ninja
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
878
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Posted - 2015.03.14 04:10:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:I honestly hate this idea. To me this is just a band aid fix for an open wound. To truly fix Fw you need to provide incentive to play it. And this does nothing but gather what's left and dumps it into a pot. Ive provided enough of incentive in my OP. Youll get LP, some ISK and the salvage system that PC has (which means much higher chance to get salvage). And what incentive? The LP stores allready offer everything ranging from STD all the way up to proto specialist weapons and equipment and even apex faction suits. What else is CCP supposed to throw at you to make FW worthwhile? Officer suits and weapons avaible in the LP store for insae pricetags like 3000LP for 1x officer laser rifle?
I allready combined the 4 factions into 2 alliances in my OP (which would actually be backed up by lore). and my proposal would be a godgift cause nobody else makes constructive feedback on this problem. All i hear is "give us a incentive" from people like you. Simplyfy the FW system and it becomes more popular. If you want a "incentive" then name it and not let every guess whatever the heck you want. After all im not a fortune teller or psychic who can read your mind.
Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
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Echo 1991
Titans of Phoenix
753
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Posted - 2015.03.14 04:13:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:Currently FW does not work at all. Dont believe me? Go and try to que for any faction and the timer stays at 0:00 which means that there is allmost nobody playing it. I strongly propose that you merge the 4 factions into 2 alliances and you earn alliance LP which you can then spend. It would work out like this:
Caldari+Amarr = alliance 1 Minmatarr+Gallente = alliance 2
That way FW players would be more concentrated and not scattered among the 4 factions trying to get a que working. Seperating the allready small FW playerbase among 4 factions does more harm then good. It would make aswell FW boosters more appealing to buy (not boosting with people!). The whole thing would work out like this:
-You que for alliance 1 and that means you fight alliance 2. -you earn alliance 1 LP and reputation but loose reputation towards alliance 2. -Alliance 1 LP can be spend on caldari/amarr items in the alliance 1 store (the whole thing works ofcourse the other way around)
Another thing is FW needs aswell a ISK payout. Not as high like in pub matches but lets say you could earn LP and 50% of that what you would earn in a pub match as ISK payout. Additionally add the same salvage system that is in PC. FW needs all the help it can get cause in its current state its unplayable.
And no the random Q-syncs that are happening in there are not the solution to it. You cannot rely on the big corps to sort this mess out. And its even more concerning cause if 2 corps would Q-sync they could boost or farm the living crap out of this. Like for example once every 1 is in the warbarge the other corp completely quits and that would generate free LP. That corp then plays a ambush match (to kill time) and then they just take turns on who earns LP. Fac War should not have isk thrown in, unless it is from misson based things. Otherwise why run pubs when you can get LP and isk. |
Cody Sietz
Random Gunz RISE of LEGION
4425
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Posted - 2015.03.14 05:57:00 -
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Yeah the FW200 flys like a brick.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
5921
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Posted - 2015.03.14 06:06:00 -
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[url]http:// https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=191981&find=unread[/url]
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LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
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Big Daigo
Caldari State
37
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Posted - 2015.03.14 06:10:00 -
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Increase LP payout. I play CalFW a lot, I try at least, and I would love to see an increase in the payout. I like the alliance idea you got there OP.
Even castles made of sand fall into the sea eventually.
For the State.
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Vicious Minotaur
2158
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Posted - 2015.03.14 06:12:00 -
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Learn to URL, jeez...
[URL(insert equal sign, sans parentheses)site you want to link to]text you want to look reddish and be clickable[/URL]
Like this.
Unless, you just do it to annoy fools, then by all means...
I am a minotaur.
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
5921
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Posted - 2015.03.14 06:16:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:Learn to URL, jeez... [URL(insert equal sign, sans parentheses)site you want to link to]text you want to look reddish and be clickable[/URL] Like this. Unless, you just do it to annoy fools, then by all means... Phone is mental give it a break
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LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
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Vicious Minotaur
2158
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Posted - 2015.03.14 06:21:00 -
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No.
I shall hold you to the standards to which I hold the gods: Perfection.
Except the douchebag Posiedon. Screw him.
I am a minotaur.
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