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Lorhak Gannarsein
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.03.13 16:07:00 -
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Earlier (as in yesterday or something) I was running around solo in my Madrugar gv.0; the fitting is about 4000 armour, a hardener and 200 hp/s, as well as a damage mod on an ion cannon. I mess up a few people with my huge DPS and my being experienced at blaster-tanking (it's really nice that it's viable again, don't get me wrong) and someone decides it's time to kill me.
So he pulls out a Gunnlogi C/1 with an ADV large missile turret. I'm sitting there happily blasting away at infantry, so I don't notice him sneaking up on me, and he dumps a volley into my side. I guess I had my hardener on, or I caught him just before he fired and activated it, and I survive pretty well intact.
I then turn around and waste him.
He's selected what is supposedly the hard counter to my vehicle, caught me by surprise... he's done everything right - except missiles are garbage now.
I don't know if a DPS buff is the right idea here, but a DoT increase would be pretty wise at this point, I think. Halving reload time would pause the missile's output but might improve its sustained damage to a more useful level, maybe? It might also be good to decrease the dispersion (like, a lot) so it can be used at more extended ranges.
I don't really know what would be a good thing to do with the missile turret, but I do know it's in a worse place right now than it has been for a good long time.
Guys, we need to stop calling MU a 'matchmaker' when it's actually a 'teambuilder'.
And I want to play FE:A now. Damn.
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
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Posted - 2015.03.13 16:24:00 -
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It doesn't do the DPS.
It doesn't have enough damage because it cannot be applied quickly enough so there is more chance of the target moving.
If you increase the clip size then you get more chances to hit the target, if you give it more damage then it causes more damage but the ROF is non existant and its reload is long so what damage you cause it can rep it back by time it is reloaded or outright kill it with your tank.
Right now it is worthless to use.
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The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514
CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
1920
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Posted - 2015.03.13 22:19:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Earlier (as in yesterday or something) I was running around solo in my Madrugar gv.0; the fitting is about 4000 armour, a hardener and 200 hp/s, as well as a damage mod on an ion cannon. I mess up a few people with my huge DPS and my being experienced at blaster-tanking (it's really nice that it's viable again, don't get me wrong) and someone decides it's time to kill me.
So he pulls out a Gunnlogi C/1 with an ADV large missile turret. I'm sitting there happily blasting away at infantry, so I don't notice him sneaking up on me, and he dumps a volley into my side. I guess I had my hardener on, or I caught him just before he fired and activated it, and I survive pretty well intact.
I then turn around and waste him.
He's selected what is supposedly the hard counter to my vehicle, caught me by surprise... he's done everything right - except missiles are garbage now.
I don't know if a DPS buff is the right idea here, but a DoT increase would be pretty wise at this point, I think. Halving reload time would pause the missile's output but might improve its sustained damage to a more useful level, maybe? It might also be good to decrease the dispersion (like, a lot) so it can be used at more extended ranges.
I don't really know what would be a good thing to do with the missile turret, but I do know it's in a worse place right now than it has been for a good long time.
agreed. Not to mention you cannot kill armor tanks with the current missiles.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Nos Nothi
4451
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Posted - 2015.03.14 02:57:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:It doesn't do the DPS.
It doesn't have enough damage because it cannot be applied quickly enough so there is more chance of the target moving.
If you increase the clip size then you get more chances to hit the target, if you give it more damage then it causes more damage but the ROF is non existant and its reload is long so what damage you cause it can rep it back by time it is reloaded or outright kill it with your tank.
Right now it is worthless to use.
Disclaimer:
The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514
yeah. having used them more than a few times while they were 'OP' I can see why people didn't like them, but I really think they were hit way too hard by the hammer.
That said though it does deal railgun DPS still, so the problem isn't DPS it's DoT.
Guys, we need to stop calling MU a 'matchmaker' when it's actually a 'teambuilder'.
And I want to play FE:A now. Damn.
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
904
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Posted - 2015.03.14 10:04:00 -
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As the only turret you actually have to bother reloading to down most tanks, it could use a reload speed buff... But honestly I've had more luck with missiles against a Madruga, than with Rails. By the time I had it ready for a 3rd shot, the Madruga had completely healed.
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pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
2030
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Posted - 2015.03.14 14:58:00 -
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2 complex missile dammage mods and xts still packs a punch. I have ran missiles this build without dammagemods and they still pop armour tanks if you get the drop on them . I have found with missiles after the hot fix you need either a nitro to keep your distance or a dammage mod to pound it home .
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I fought and bled for the State on Caldari prime.
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
878
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Posted - 2015.03.14 19:24:00 -
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lol large missiles, they are a joke now and if there is a shield tank fitted with them he just gets murdered by a madrugar that has a hardener and damage mod for his blaster.
R.I.P. shield tanks it was fun as long it lasted.
Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
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Jason1 Black
FACTION WARFARE ARMY FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE
8
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Posted - 2015.03.16 02:43:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:It doesn't do the DPS.
It doesn't have enough damage because it cannot be applied quickly enough so there is more chance of the target moving.
If you increase the clip size then you get more chances to hit the target, if you give it more damage then it causes more damage but the ROF is non existant and its reload is long so what damage you cause it can rep it back by time it is reloaded or outright kill it with your tank.
Right now it is worthless to use.
Disclaimer:
The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514 lie, i get wasted in my gunngoli by missiles all the fcking time,one volley and imd down to 200 armor
I love this game but it makes me rage so much.
Star wars battlefront 3 coming out, so excited!!
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Nos Nothi
4459
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Posted - 2015.03.16 08:09:00 -
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Jason1 Black wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:It doesn't do the DPS.
It doesn't have enough damage because it cannot be applied quickly enough so there is more chance of the target moving.
If you increase the clip size then you get more chances to hit the target, if you give it more damage then it causes more damage but the ROF is non existant and its reload is long so what damage you cause it can rep it back by time it is reloaded or outright kill it with your tank.
Right now it is worthless to use.
Disclaimer:
The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514 lie, i get wasted in my gunngoli by missiles all the fcking time,one volley and imd down to 200 armor well see, this is what happens when you fit neither a hardener or an extender.
Guys, we need to stop calling MU a 'matchmaker' when it's actually a 'teambuilder'.
And I want to play FE:A now. Damn.
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