Jade come on you cant be serious, I m a terrible sentinel but when I use it I can kill enemies almost like before.

Maybe you sentinels are too used to ez mode?

Been a sentinel for two years and I'll tell you this right now, if you were using it as an 'I Win' Button then you can leave your sentinel badge at the door.

I only went negative once today with all the new changes and that was because I was f*cling around in a minass suit with stacked myofibs.

Sentinels are in a bad spot however Rattati has helped us with this lastest hotfix. Our range has been increased and us AssHMG users now have decent DPS. Sure we are still slow and have giant hitboxes still but if you can't go positive in a skirmish or FW then you are doing it wrong.

BTW Gallente Proto Sentinel if you are wondering.

I said this before, I'll say it again. the HMG heat nerfs only made the amarr sentinel more powerful over the others, I haven't played with my sentinel enough recently but I can only imagine that the dps nerf has done the same. The amarr sentinel requires the longest time of bullet hits to take down compared to the other sentinels and the heat and dps nerfs made this window even tighter. I do agree that the dps and range nerf were needed as the HMG was OP against every other (dropsuit) role in the game but it terms of heavy vs heavy amarr is king.The PC data shows that it is the amarr sentinel + HMG combo that is OP, iirc the gal scout and min assault are higher on the list - above the cal and min sentinel. Heat reduction buff is necessary.

What sentinel do you use??

Amarr. Why?

Because it's the relatively easy mode OP one, subsequently you have a bias POV.

I said this before, I'll say it again. the HMG heat nerfs only made the amarr sentinel more powerful over the others, I haven't played with my sentinel enough recently but I can only imagine that the dps nerf has done the same. The amarr sentinel requires the longest time of bullet hits to take down compared to the other sentinels and the heat and dps nerfs made this window even tighter. I do agree that the dps and range nerf were needed as the HMG was OP against every other (dropsuit) role in the game but it terms of heavy vs heavy amarr is king.The PC data shows that it is the amarr sentinel + HMG combo that is OP, iirc the gal scout and min assault are higher on the list - above the cal and min sentinel. Heat reduction buff is necessary.

The HMG needs to be designed, function and balanced out as an actual machine gun which requires skill to aim.

Not some mutant cartoon gun that has same dispersion and range as Jack Sparrows blunderbuss, like it is now.

The HMG needs to be designed, function and balanced out as an actual machine gun which requires skill to aim.

Not some mutant cartoon gun that has same dispersion and range as Jack Sparrows blunderbuss, like it is now.

I said this before, I'll say it again. the HMG heat nerfs only made the amarr sentinel more powerful over the others, I haven't played with my sentinel enough recently but I can only imagine that the dps nerf has done the same. The amarr sentinel requires the longest time of bullet hits to take down compared to the other sentinels and the heat and dps nerfs made this window even tighter. I do agree that the dps and range nerf were needed as the HMG was OP against every other (dropsuit) role in the game but it terms of heavy vs heavy amarr is king.The PC data shows that it is the amarr sentinel + HMG combo that is OP, iirc the gal scout and min assault are higher on the list - above the cal and min sentinel. Heat reduction buff is necessary.

have to agree sorry pag but the amar requires no skill, I run the min Sent which I place kin cats and dmg but with this update? It looks like amar stacked is the way

something like the lsat?

because of the triple nerf . heat few months ago and now range and damage hmgs are not in a good spot . range nerf has been needed for over 2yrs but all 3 is a bit over kill. keep range and damage nerf but atleast give it old heat build up. amar heavy is really the only play style atm . stop pretending there good atm cause there not to those of us who have ran them for awhile . can tell everytime they touch them . from spread to hit detection

Been a sentinel for two years and I'll tell you this right now, if you were using it as an 'I Win' Button then you can leave your sentinel badge at the door.

I only went negative once today with all the new changes and that was because I was f*cling around in a minass suit with stacked myofibs.

Sentinels are in a bad spot however Rattati has helped us with this lastest hotfix. Our range has been increased and us AssHMG users now have decent DPS. Sure we are still slow and have giant hitboxes still but if you can't go positive in a skirmish or FW then you are doing it wrong.

BTW Gallente Proto Sentinel if you are wondering.

I actually think the HMG is in a good spot right now, just waiting for the meta to settle in to see for sure but I still stand by the heat reduction being needed for non-amsent vs amsent.

The assault hmg doesn't have decent actually dps...

i think a racial bonus needs to be added for sentinels, not just shield/armor resistance bonuses

To start, I have fought most of you in my heavy suit. I can count on one hand the number of times I have not been out numbered by heavies and I usually come out on top or so dang close, my logi would gun down the last heavy standing and needle me up.

The key is to go for head shots! I aim for the neck like I do with the shotgun and let the gun carry me up to the head shot when it bounces. There is no consistency with dispersion like in COD which was very prescriptive with the recoil pattern.

Also, Amarr heavy is better and worse, I run it because I plate that thing down, but I feel so slow, I am stationary for most of the fighting. First PC with jumping tonight. My Cal heavy is my favorite because repping through damage is not a good strategy IMO. I prefer to duck back, let the shields spawn up in 3 seconds, get that reload in, and come at the enemy back at full EHP. But PC demands Amarr for the brick, so brick it is. There is skill in the Amarr, you guys need to counter it at it's weak spots, it can't move, so REs and jumping will really impact the Amarr going forward.

You better be ready to swap scouts out of the air in the city. Also the communication facility spreads out the city.

Ive been dedicated heavy for about a year I used the freedom hmg, then they need it so I used the sixkin I don't like the standard as I always stated it had to much range. I also go positive in skirmish and doms even ambushs but now? The sixkin is in a really bad spot people hated it after they nerfed it when it was broke. I loved it.
I play heavy 90% of the time always played the role kill him infant before you die if you die after? Yous till killed someone.
I have gone toe to toe with some of the the best heavies in the game. And I have spoken to a few and we all agree min sentinel has been hit hard by this.
I play to win not my KDR butmy suit does not fit the role it use to which was heavy assault.

You fail as a SENTINEL if you were using it as a heavy assault. Sentinels are point defense. Hell its even in the name.

You fail at not understanding the min sentinel

Hmgs are officially pointless

HMG heavies are the chodes of dust. .

Actually I do understand it quite well. It has enoughs highs and lows to either hybrid tank or shield tank with kin kats or armour tank with stacked damage mods. It is also the fastest of the sentinels.

However their role on the field is not heavy assault. That is what commandos are meant to be. Their role is to defend the objective by moving within the area as opposed to Amarr Sentinels (which is the stand and deliver suit).

Have you seen the size of those bullets? Even with New Eden materials, HMG isn't going to be much of an anti-material weapon.

What if the HMGs get fitted with bipods? When mounted (crouch) they become dead accurate. Downside being HMGers can't move when crouched. In my headcanon, all Minmatar weapons are modified versions of jury-rigged civilian weapons: The HMG originates from a mounted machine gun so really this seems appropriate and obvious.

But nah, I think this would make sentinels OP. You've already got the glorious Laser Rifle for long range.