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Pashrashiri al Kbili
Fools Rush In Corporated
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Posted - 2015.03.12 05:52:00 -
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I get stomped a lot and it doesn't take a PRO to do it. However, I hear so much angst about "protostomping" -- to the point I'm afraid people will stop playing this game I love -- that I've been trying to think of a way to ameliorate the situation for us chronic underdogs.
Would it be possible to grant damage points against PRO dropsuits similar to those awarded against vehicles? To wit:
ADV dropsuit versus PRO
10 wp if you get PRO's shields below 50% before you die or retreat
20 wp if you get PRO's armor below 50% before you die or retreat
STD dropsuit versus PRO
20 wp if you get PRO's shields below 50% before you die or retreat
30 wp if you get PRO's armor below 50% before you die or retreat
MLT dropsuit versus PRO
30 wp if you get PRO's shields below 50% before you die or retreat
40 wp if you get PRO's armor below 50% before you die or retreat
(Note that the more underdoggy the suit used in the encounter, the greater the point compensation.)
If an underdog actually kills a PRO the underdog would get to loot the PRO, with the loot displayed on the End Of Match screen along with salvage. Loot could be determined as follows:
ADV suit-wearer gets PRO's sidearm, grenade or equipment x1 added to assets
STD suit-wearer gets PRO's primary weapon x1 added to assets
MLT suit-wearer gets PRO's dropsuit x1 added to assets
Looting wouldn't apply in cases where PRO dies as a result of a warbarge strike. However, the damage points would be apportioned to multiple players who work together to bring down a PRO. Only the player who gets the kill would be able to "loot the suit" though.
I think awarding damage points and loot against PROs would help prevent player despair, rage-quits, and timid clones going AWOL during matches once they see who they're up against. It would also maybe make the most arrogant PROs more circumspect about swaggering out among the grunts. (Note: I have not personally experienced any nasty PROs; I just hear about them here.)
There are few people less tech-savvy than I am, so I don't know if any of this is programmatically possible to do. But I think something along these lines would give heart to new or impecunious players, try-not-so-hards, and folks like me: vets who can't shoot fer sheesh. |
hails8n
DEATH BY DESTRUCTION
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Posted - 2015.03.12 05:57:00 -
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Why?
Snipe Yo Ass.
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VAHZZ
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Posted - 2015.03.12 05:59:00 -
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I seriously just stomp back.
The supreme art of war, is to subdue the enemy without fighting.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
2599
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Posted - 2015.03.12 06:02:00 -
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I'd rather just see ISK efficiency become a factor in battle payouts.
People that kill a ton of Protobears in a Standard fit get a hefty ISK/SP bonus, without cluttering their inventory with a bunch of Prototyoe gear they'll never use.
People that use Prototype stuff against a bunch of fresh out the academy reds will get little to no bonus, if not even less pay than currently.
There needs to be more reasons NOT to use PRO gear all the time in this game.
Home at Last <3
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Squagga
The State Protectorate
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Posted - 2015.03.12 06:17:00 -
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Eh, part of me wants to agree with OP, cause we're already in need of a larger community, but also .. I don't know how much I like this idea. What do you think of alternate game modes, like PvE, OP?
Reloading, the silent killer.
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xavier zor
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.03.12 06:26:00 -
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we do get rewards
over time, if you get stomped hard enough you develop a skill called gun-game, which essentially means you have gotten gud. That is a reward. I said rewards, but i can't think of any other reward to mention...maybe juicy hatemails from the guy in PRO getting stomped by ADV/STD??
retired
stabbed musturd, duna, radar, tibs
replying -í° -£-û -í°
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.12 06:58:00 -
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I would like to see it simply something like this:
Officer Kill +80
Proto kill +70
Adv kill +60
Std kill +50
Mil/Std Kill +40
Assists would be similarly scaled. |
jane stalin
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.12 07:00:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:
over time, if you get stomped hard enough you develop a skill called gun-game, which essentially means you have gotten gud. That is a reward. I said rewards, but i can't think of any other reward to mention...maybe juicy hatemails from the guy in PRO getting stomped by ADV/STD??
What are you basing this concept on, I have gone to very crap to crap, I will never get gud, It is not how the world works.
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Squagga
The State Protectorate
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Posted - 2015.03.12 07:05:00 -
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Make some friends, run with a team, do more support, I guess. Sorry some of you guys don't a lot of skill for this game, and I understand how much you like it. But, you're gonna have to learn how to survive
Reloading, the silent killer.
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Jack Boost
Zarena Family
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Posted - 2015.03.12 07:31:00 -
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- Captain, Captain - we engage this redbery!?!
- Wait I calculate if it is worth...
- But he escape... 
- Take back reps and we grind back.
Not much time left...
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xavier zor
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.03.12 09:20:00 -
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jane stalin wrote:xavier zor wrote:
over time, if you get stomped hard enough you develop a skill called gun-game, which essentially means you have gotten gud. That is a reward. I said rewards, but i can't think of any other reward to mention...maybe juicy hatemails from the guy in PRO getting stomped by ADV/STD??
What are you basing this concept on, I have gone to very crap to crap, I will never get gud, It is not how the world works.
well, you will eventually
I'm sure we all will
retired
stabbed musturd, duna, radar, tibs
replying -í° -£-û -í°
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
Warpoint Sharx
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Posted - 2015.03.12 09:20:00 -
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Just add X amount of bonus WP to the kill based on total fitting meta level as a start.
Maybe to the assist as well.
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
Warpoint Sharx
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Posted - 2015.03.12 09:22:00 -
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Also subtract from the kill based on fitting meta level.
Meaning that running a full pro suit against militias really lowers the reward along with the risk being lowered. |
Generic Gristle
Carbon 7
Iron Oxide.
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Posted - 2015.03.12 09:30:00 -
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scale -5wp for every meta level below and +5 for every meta above. Cap at 20min/80max otherwise officer (meta 10) would get 0wp for killing a MLT (meta 0)
though 0wp for a kill would be funny. and possibly appropriate. |
LOOKMOM NOHANDS
Warpoint Sharx
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Posted - 2015.03.12 09:32:00 -
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Generic Gristle wrote:scale -5wp for every meta level below and +5 for every meta above. Cap at 20min/80max otherwise officer (meta 10) would get 0wp for killing a MLT (meta 0)
though 0wp for a kill would be funny.
I love it maybe change the caps to 10 and 100 tho.
Assists could be scaled in the same fashion to encourage MLT suits to team up on protos. |
Otoky
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.03.12 11:04:00 -
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I like the OP base idea but with reduced rewards.
This system would encourage vet players to use lower gear just for fun and to prove how badass they are. |
hold that
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Bad Intention
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Posted - 2015.03.12 11:11:00 -
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voidfaction
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.03.12 11:15:00 -
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Otoky wrote:I like the OP base idea but with reduced rewards.
This system would encourage vet players to use lower gear just for fun and to prove how badass they are. Yeah it might encourage them if you remove KDR from pubs. They need to have a KDR that makes them look like they are bad ass. No different than the redline snipers. they do not care that they could get more SP for playing the game they will sit in the redline for 1 kill a match so long as they do not die ever. KDR will show they are a god when they are really nothing because they hide in redline.
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