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Juno Tristan
Obscure Reference
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Posted - 2015.03.10 05:24:00 -
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I know the Caldari hate the scrambler rifle, but would shield tanking be OP without laser profile weapons?
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Vicious Minotaur
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Posted - 2015.03.10 05:33:00 -
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I wreck shield tanking fools with my Gallente weapons, Minmatar weapons (sans flaylock and MD), and Caldari weapons.
Shield tanking would still be wimpy if there were even less Amarr weapons than there already are.
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VAHZZ
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.10 05:36:00 -
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Us Gallente wreak havoc upon den puny shields.
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Squagga
The State Protectorate
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Posted - 2015.03.10 05:57:00 -
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The only time I really notice the difference, is when using vehicle weapons, against vehicles. I really can't tell the diffrence. My RR, her name is Rosie, tears through all shields and armor equally
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Juno Tristan
Obscure Reference
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Posted - 2015.03.10 06:11:00 -
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If I use a cr against a Caldari suit it feels like the bullets are just bouncing off, I have to rely on fluxing them instead.
But I guess the AR profile is better suited to the job
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.10 06:20:00 -
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No. It would definitely be competitive with armor, perhaps even better imo. However, there are still fluxes and blaster weaponry, so they'd be balanced.
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game RUST415
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Posted - 2015.03.10 06:33:00 -
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Most of very good players uses Caldari Assault. They are good enough [players] to win vs scramblers etc.
But yeah, without laser weponary, Caldari assault would be 2x more competetive.
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xavier zor
0uter.Heaven Back and Forth
769
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Posted - 2015.03.10 06:58:00 -
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nope
without the amarr weapon, shield tanking would be viable...armor tanking is very OP if you have a logi attached (teamwork is OP)
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.03.10 07:29:00 -
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I was playing around in a CalSent the other day.
It was great, really effective, until someone cooked a flux at me for all my shields.
Then someone came around the corner with a combat rifle and 800 HP and killed me.
Guys, we need to stop calling MU a 'matchmaker' when it's actually a 'teambuilder'.
And I want to play FE:A now. Damn.
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Francois Sanchez
Prima Gallicus
310
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Posted - 2015.03.10 08:26:00 -
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Gal weapons will still destroy the shields at insane speed while rail weaponry still gets through quite easily so definitely not. |
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2015.03.10 08:38:00 -
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Why am I incredibly insulted by this....
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LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
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Big miku
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.03.10 09:58:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:Most of very good players uses Caldari Assault.
The PC statistics say otherwise.
Shield tanking will remain in the Shadow of Armor tanking as longs as Logistical Support Favors Armor tankers. |
xavier zor
0uter.Heaven Back and Forth
770
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Posted - 2015.03.10 11:23:00 -
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Big miku wrote:Mejt0 wrote:Most of very good players uses Caldari Assault. The PC statistics say otherwise. Shield tanking will remain in the Shadow of Armor tanking as longs as Logistical Support Favors Armor tankers.
yes, armor tanking trumps shield tanking in PC due to repair tools
but shield tanking is slightly better when you are solo than armor tanking. If you get surrounded, you are faster and can run away. You also regenerate better
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Shamarskii Simon
The Hundred Acre Hood RISE of LEGION
165
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Posted - 2015.03.10 11:49:00 -
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Lots of people don't know how to shield tank in all honesty.
But knowing base armor Cal's are two shot, i see why people don't know how to shield tank.
I found out the other day and... I felt OP in my combat area. (well i wasn't but I was doing a whole lot better than my old style)
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
6611
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Posted - 2015.03.10 11:54:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns
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Posted - 2015.03.10 12:06:00 -
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No, because Gallente do high shield damage anyway. Shield tanks need a bit of love, i've always said the skill to use shield extenders should be 3% or 5% per level to efficacy of extenders not 2%. only small increase but it'd make a good difference in the long run. Or, i'd like the Power Diagnostic System from EVE for lowslots of suits too, it gives a small increase to suit PG, Shield recharge and shield HP and woulod really help shield based suits become something
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
58
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Posted - 2015.03.10 12:51:00 -
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Shield tanking does need a bit of tweaking,its a bit frail in my opinion. And that's someone loyal to amarr saying that
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.03.10 12:55:00 -
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Nope. Armor based players still have greater utility in fitting damage mods, where the shield weakness can be diminished.
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
58
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Posted - 2015.03.10 12:57:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Nope. Armor based players still have greater utility in fitting damage mods, where the shield weakness can be diminished. Yeah because damage mods are in the high slot. In the case of Eve however its the other way around. The most potent Titan ship is caldari because it can shield tank and have really high firepower
How many amarr does it take to change a light bulb? none. The minmatar do it for them
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Francois Sanchez
Prima Gallicus
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Posted - 2015.03.10 13:43:00 -
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Shield tanking still has many drawbacks compared to armour : - less HP - conflict with damage mods - high CPU and PG costs whereas shield suits generally lack PG - no combo with rep tools/triage nanohives - regen delay (armour with 2 regen modules can regen much better in successive engagements thx to that, or if you take that random bullet your regen stops for several precious seconds) - flux grenades/OBs
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Aidualc
LATINOS KILLERS CORP Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2015.03.10 15:18:00 -
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Shield tanking = speed and straffing, armour tanking = slow and reps...
speed or rep are op?
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Killer's Coys
Prima Gallicus
255
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Posted - 2015.03.10 20:45:00 -
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Francois Sanchez wrote:Shield tanking still has many drawbacks compared to armour : - less HP - conflict with damage mods - high CPU and PG costs whereas shield suits generally lack PG - no combo with rep tools/triage nanohives - regen delay (armour with 2 regen modules can regen much better in successive engagements thx to that, or if you take that random bullet your regen stops for several precious seconds) - flux grenades/OBs
I don't have anything to add about this.
But I do want to speak about Amarr weapons........................
- The tactical Scrambler rifle makes so much damage... Piouf ! I have got it, prof 5 with Amarr assault. It does destroy shield so easily... so easily... People said "no it's not OP at all, you say it is because you haven't ever played with it". I tried, I play everyday with it. And it's OP.
- Breach Scrambler pistol. Must +I say something ?
- The assault scrambler rifle. Ok it's UP compared to other weapons. But +15% damage ????? Do CCP understand what they do ??? Instead of buff x or y weapon, CCP must NERF THE OTHERS TO INCREASE TTK
I'm sorry for my bad English writting and comprehension.
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