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Squagga wrote:

Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:

Squagga wrote:

LudiKure ninda wrote:

Squagga wrote:

When degenerates stop hiding in tanks

Dude are you stupid?? Vehicles are in game to use them they are like any dropsuit,just 10x time more expencive Roll

Its not fair that mincomando or even bpo SL suit to yust completly shut down any vehicle on the field.

Then what is the point using wehicles??

Are you stupid? vehicles aren't that much more expensive than infantry loadouts

4k vs 150-200k? are you..... mentally incapacitated, or just naturally bad at math?
That's how much my AV suit costs against my tank in the garage (haven't used it in months so the tank price may have changed, cause no point)

Also, what about those guys who go around getting 40+ kills in dropsuits? I bet you "conveniently" forgot about them once you saw a single tank get 10 kills. Roll

Like all the other "AV players" who are just tossing around useless text that has no validity.

People who know how AV balance works, also drive a vehicle.
Tankers who don't know balance, don't use AV.
AVs who don't know balance, don't use Tanks.

The logic kind of falls into place, that you clearly do not use one or the other if all you do is rant as if your "side of the fence" is "clearly the only one in existence"... All you're doing is hurting your credibility, so that when you actually have a legitimate concern, people will think it's another exaggeration. Do you see where I'm going here?

Where you're going here, is that you hide in a vehicle that was way more speed, hp, and firepower. And then you *****, when someone can fight back. It's so unfair that you werent able to just run around in your vehicle and get all the kills without being killed. Oh noes, your tears, they fall like the ISKs you spend, for a vehicle you obviously can't operate very well. Get outta that thing and do some actual inantry work. Oh that's right, you can't. If you could, you wouldn't be in that vehicle in the first place

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Cypher Nil Fireteam Tempest 29	Posted - 2015.03.10 03:24:00 - [31] - Quote easy solution, add chaff droppers to ONLY transport dropships so their not completely useless and buff the defences of assault dropships. transports dont hunt players down they just drop off players assault dropship's arn't worth the investment atm, kinda sucks Its ok, I'm a ninja
LudiKure ninda Dead Man's Game RUST415 229	Posted - 2015.03.10 03:24:00 - [32] - Quote Stormblade Green wrote: LudiKure ninda wrote: Stormblade Green wrote: You haven't fought my friends yet I guess....... As for me like I said I use a Breach FG, and if I must Assualt..... On top of the other tuned fits..... When I begin targeting you... hope and pray I'm not aiming to kill. BFG and IAFG are fine chause they are skilled weapon,...SL takes no skill whatsoever. FGs are meant for HAVs..... Swarms are for DS..... But why are swarms more efective against tanks than FG?? agains any wehicle.. Youre in a fat suit,slow easily can be sniped,..like I said skilled users only.. you can put swarms on a cloaked scout suit with AV granades and RE ( -í° -£-û -í°) `Send your isk here!`
LudiKure ninda Dead Man's Game RUST415 229	Posted - 2015.03.10 03:25:00 - [33] - Quote Cypher Nil wrote: easy solution, add chaff droppers to ONLY transport dropships so their not completely useless and buff the defences of assault dropships. transports dont hunt players down they just drop off players assault dropship's arn't worth the investment atm, kinda sucks YES YES and more YES!! ( -í° -£-û -í°) `Send your isk here!`
Stormblade Green KnightKiller's inc. 43	Posted - 2015.03.10 03:27:00 - [34] - Quote The damage profile of the SL kinda does explain why it can kill all.... One might say... I'm very skilled... yet I'm his apprentice... So what does that say about my mentor?
Jack 3enimble Pub Stars 662	Posted - 2015.03.10 03:28:00 - [35] - Quote The only weapon that's OP right now is the Assault Scrambler rifle Dealing justice with a swift punch in the balls, now in battles near you! Lord of the Links
LudiKure ninda Dead Man's Game RUST415 229	Posted - 2015.03.10 03:29:00 - [36] - Quote Stormblade Green wrote: The damage profile of the SL kinda does explain why it can kill all.... SL does way too much dmg to shield than it should.. ( -í° -£-û -í°) `Send your isk here!`
LudiKure ninda Dead Man's Game RUST415 229	Posted - 2015.03.10 03:30:00 - [37] - Quote Jack 3enimble wrote: The only weapon that's OP right now is the Assault Scrambler rifle That buff is going to be OP like RR it was before all nerfs.. Shield suit are gonna be history.. ( -í° -£-û -í°) `Send your isk here!`
Stormblade Green KnightKiller's inc. 43	Posted - 2015.03.10 03:36:00 - [38] - Quote LudiKure ninda wrote: Stormblade Green wrote: The damage profile of the SL kinda does explain why it can kill all.... SL does way too much dmg to shield than it should.. It shoots 4 "rounds" a swarm..... individually they are small but when it comes to all 4 hit and all the swarms launched...... you get the feel of a lot of shield damage..... Been on both ends. One might say... I'm very skilled... yet I'm his apprentice... So what does that say about my mentor?
LudiKure ninda Dead Man's Game RUST415 229	Posted - 2015.03.10 03:40:00 - [39] - Quote Stormblade Green wrote: LudiKure ninda wrote: Stormblade Green wrote: The damage profile of the SL kinda does explain why it can kill all.... SL does way too much dmg to shield than it should.. It shoots 4 "rounds" a swarm..... individually they are small but when it comes to all 4 hit and all the swarms launched...... you get the feel of a lot of shield damage..... Been on both ends. Minmando can wreck my hardend shield tank with one extender in one clip! That is yust not right,.. ( -í° -£-û -í°) `Send your isk here!`
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 1139	Posted - 2015.03.10 03:41:00 - [40] - Quote Squagga wrote: LudiKure ninda wrote: Squagga wrote: When degenerates stop hiding in tanks Dude are you stupid?? Vehicles are in game to use them they are like any dropsuit,just 10x time more expencive Its not fair that mincomando or even bpo SL suit to yust completly shut down any vehicle on the field. Then what is the point using wehicles?? Are you stupid? vehicles aren't that much more expensive than infantry loadouts 4k vs 150-200k? are you..... mentally incapacitated, or just naturally bad at math? That's how much my AV suit costs against my tank in the garage (haven't used it in months so the tank price may have changed, cause no point) Also, what about those guys who go around getting 40+ kills in dropsuits? I bet you "conveniently" forgot about them once you saw a single tank get 10 kills. Like all the other "AV players" who are just tossing around useless text that has no validity. People who know how AV balance works, also drive a vehicle. Tankers who don't know balance, don't use AV. AVs who don't know balance, don't use Tanks. The logic kind of falls into place, that you clearly do not use one or the other if all you do is rant as if your "side of the fence" is "clearly the only one in existence"... All you're doing is hurting your credibility, so that when you actually have a legitimate concern, people will think it's another exaggeration. Do you see where I'm going here? http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.

Stormblade Green KnightKiller's inc. 46	Posted - 2015.03.10 03:43:00 - [41] - Quote LudiKure ninda wrote: Stormblade Green wrote: LudiKure ninda wrote: Stormblade Green wrote: The damage profile of the SL kinda does explain why it can kill all.... SL does way too much dmg to shield than it should.. It shoots 4 "rounds" a swarm..... individually they are small but when it comes to all 4 hit and all the swarms launched...... you get the feel of a lot of shield damage..... Been on both ends. Minmando can wreck my hardend shield tank with one extender in one clip! That is yust not right,.. Well 10% commando bonus....without damaging mods or Warbarge.... though it was still happening before the Warbarge... I have to agree though. The Minmitar Commando should not get a damage bonus to SL. One might say... I'm very skilled... yet I'm his apprentice... So what does that say about my mentor?
LudiKure ninda Dead Man's Game RUST415 229	Posted - 2015.03.10 03:53:00 - [42] - Quote I use all vehicles and all AV, and I know when something is not right,. Hell even I tryed Min comando 5 a swarms prof. 5.. Swarms on minmando is overkill,OP period. ( -í° -£-û -í°) `Send your isk here!`
Squagga The State Protectorate 373	Posted - 2015.03.10 03:55:00 - [43] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Squagga wrote: LudiKure ninda wrote: Squagga wrote: When degenerates stop hiding in tanks Dude are you stupid?? Vehicles are in game to use them they are like any dropsuit,just 10x time more expencive Its not fair that mincomando or even bpo SL suit to yust completly shut down any vehicle on the field. Then what is the point using wehicles?? Are you stupid? vehicles aren't that much more expensive than infantry loadouts 4k vs 150-200k? are you..... mentally incapacitated, or just naturally bad at math? That's how much my AV suit costs against my tank in the garage (haven't used it in months so the tank price may have changed, cause no point) Also, what about those guys who go around getting 40+ kills in dropsuits? I bet you "conveniently" forgot about them once you saw a single tank get 10 kills. Like all the other "AV players" who are just tossing around useless text that has no validity. People who know how AV balance works, also drive a vehicle. Tankers who don't know balance, don't use AV. AVs who don't know balance, don't use Tanks. The logic kind of falls into place, that you clearly do not use one or the other if all you do is rant as if your "side of the fence" is "clearly the only one in existence"... All you're doing is hurting your credibility, so that when you actually have a legitimate concern, people will think it's another exaggeration. Do you see where I'm going here? Where you're going here, is that you hide in a vehicle that was way more speed, hp, and firepower. And then you *****, when someone can fight back. It's so unfair that you werent able to just run around in your vehicle and get all the kills without being killed. Oh noes, your tears, they fall like the ISKs you spend, for a vehicle you obviously can't operate very well. Get outta that thing and do some actual inantry work. Oh that's right, you can't. If you could, you wouldn't be in that vehicle in the first place Reloading, the silent killer.
LudiKure ninda Dead Man's Game RUST415 229	Posted - 2015.03.10 03:58:00 - [44] - Quote Squagga wrote: Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Squagga wrote: LudiKure ninda wrote: Squagga wrote: When degenerates stop hiding in tanks Dude are you stupid?? Vehicles are in game to use them they are like any dropsuit,just 10x time more expencive Its not fair that mincomando or even bpo SL suit to yust completly shut down any vehicle on the field. Then what is the point using wehicles?? Are you stupid? vehicles aren't that much more expensive than infantry loadouts 4k vs 150-200k? are you..... mentally incapacitated, or just naturally bad at math? That's how much my AV suit costs against my tank in the garage (haven't used it in months so the tank price may have changed, cause no point) Also, what about those guys who go around getting 40+ kills in dropsuits? I bet you "conveniently" forgot about them once you saw a single tank get 10 kills. Like all the other "AV players" who are just tossing around useless text that has no validity. People who know how AV balance works, also drive a vehicle. Tankers who don't know balance, don't use AV. AVs who don't know balance, don't use Tanks. The logic kind of falls into place, that you clearly do not use one or the other if all you do is rant as if your "side of the fence" is "clearly the only one in existence"... All you're doing is hurting your credibility, so that when you actually have a legitimate concern, people will think it's another exaggeration. Do you see where I'm going here? Where you're going here, is that you hide in a vehicle that was way more speed, hp, and firepower. And then you *****, when someone can fight back. It's so unfair that you werent able to just run around in your vehicle and get all the kills without being killed. Oh noes, your tears, they fall like the ISKs you spend, for a vehicle you obviously can't operate very well. Get outta that thing and do some actual inantry work. Oh that's right, you can't. If you could, you wouldn't be in that vehicle in the first place Im also high skill Infantry player, and yeah I can get out of the tank,but then it wouldnt be good 4 you.. ( -í° -£-û -í°) `Send your isk here!`
hold that Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 692	Posted - 2015.03.10 04:02:00 - [45] - Quote i'm starting to think 90% of tankers ruin pub games. all they do is hide, shoot some sht once in a while. in skirm and dom it's like a disease, 3 of these p.o.s tankers on team driving around the redline. would be nice to have a vehicle only pub mode, where you can only spawn in a vehicle, so tankers esp. can continue living out their fantasies of ramming other tanks and blasting them up their arse PC vehicle users i O7
demonkiller 12 Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 647	Posted - 2015.03.10 04:05:00 - [46] - Quote i'm amazed at the amount of utterly ** vehicle users in this game, you know exactly what's and what's OP armor vehicles are ** - DON'T USE THEM shield vehicles with dual hardeners are OP and unless there's a full proto AV squad after you and you're playing like an idiot, you're never going to lose your tank/dropship - USE THEM AV is fine, if anything AV need a buff or a rework, look at shield AV plasma cannon and flux grenades flux grenades are timed and do not detonate from proximity like AV grenades do plasma cannons travel slow and have an arc also doesn't home like swarms do shield vehicles are faster and far more agile so unless they're sitting completely still you're probably never going to hit them
LudiKure ninda Dead Man's Game RUST415 229	Posted - 2015.03.10 04:08:00 - [47] - Quote hold that wrote: i'm starting to think 90% of tankers ruin pub games. all they do is hide, shoot some sht once in a while. in skirm and dom it's like a disease, 3 of these p.o.s tankers on team driving around the redline. would be nice to have a vehicle only pub mode, where you can only spawn in a vehicle, so tankers esp. can continue living out their fantasies of ramming other tanks and blasting them up their arse PC vehicle users i O7 we are in the redline chause swarms are way too strong..im not gonna risk my 500k isk tank to be destroyed in seconds by an 150k mincomando easynoskill mode.. youre gonna see much more redline tanks if swarms stays the same. And yeah wehicle game mode would be awesome! ( -í° -£-û -í°) `Send your isk here!`
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 1140	Posted - 2015.03.10 04:16:00 - [48] - Quote Squagga wrote: Where you're going here, is that you hide in a vehicle that was way more speed, hp, and firepower. And then you *****, when someone can fight back. It's so unfair that you werent able to just run around in your vehicle and get all the kills without being killed. Oh noes, your tears, they fall like the ISKs you spend, for a vehicle you obviously can't operate very well. Get outta that thing and do some actual inantry work. Oh that's right, you can't. If you could, you wouldn't be in that vehicle in the first place You're one of those people who complain so much that you'd let a sniper point blank you in the face, just to complain about snipers. Anyway, nobody is going to take you seriously. Come back when you get actual information and not just sloppy bias. http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
LudiKure ninda Dead Man's Game RUST415 229	Posted - 2015.03.10 04:16:00 - [49] - Quote demonkiller 12 wrote: i'm amazed at the amount of utterly ** vehicle users in this game, you know exactly what's and what's OP armor vehicles are ** - DON'T USE THEM shield vehicles with dual hardeners are OP and unless there's a full proto AV squad after you and you're playing like an idiot, you're never going to lose your tank/dropship - USE THEM AV is fine, if anything AV need a buff or a rework, look at shield AV plasma cannon and flux grenades flux grenades are timed and do not detonate from proximity like AV grenades do plasma cannons travel slow and have an arc also doesn't home like swarms do shield vehicles are faster and far more agile so unless they're sitting completely still you're probably never going to hit them gall comando with 2 allotek PLC 1700dmg after patch,with 2 kincats? That thing can kill any vehicle very quickly. ( -í° -£-û -í°) `Send your isk here!`
LudiKure ninda Dead Man's Game RUST415 229	Posted - 2015.03.10 04:24:00 - [50] - Quote LudiKure ninda wrote: demonkiller 12 wrote: i'm amazed at the amount of utterly ** vehicle users in this game, you know exactly what's and what's OP armor vehicles are ** - DON'T USE THEM shield vehicles with dual hardeners are OP and unless there's a full proto AV squad after you and you're playing like an idiot, you're never going to lose your tank/dropship - USE THEM AV is fine, if anything AV need a buff or a rework, look at shield AV plasma cannon and flux grenades flux grenades are timed and do not detonate from proximity like AV grenades do plasma cannons travel slow and have an arc also doesn't home like swarms do shield vehicles are faster and far more agile so unless they're sitting completely still you're probably never going to hit them gall comando with 2 allotek PLC 1700dmg after patch,with 2 kincats and 2 dmg mods? That thing can kill any vehicle very quickly. Or a kubo PLC.... ( -í° -£-û -í°) `Send your isk here!`

Edau Skir2 Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 777	Posted - 2015.03.10 04:36:00 - [51] - Quote LudiKure ninda wrote: Im also high skill Infantry player, and yeah I can get out of the tank,but then it wouldnt be good 4 you.. and its not the ISK problem..I can afford to run proto 24/7 also with wehicles.. blanace is the problem I detect some serious arrogance here. Also, a fair amount of stupidity. You go on and on about Minmandos with Swarms as if they're the most OP thing ever, acting as if they kill tanks all the time no matter what. But for pity's sake, let's say that Minmando is being shot at by multiple other players, oh and your tank. Well then, his job becomes a lot harder doesn't it? Purely hypothetical, of course. Oh wait. That's EXACTLY how it works. Bottom line is, if ONE Minmando is killing your tank, then you're a god awful operator. I can do better than you're making out to do in a Sica with MLT mods. Logistics mk.0 / Logibro's Modified Logistics mk.0 Scout gk.0/ Scotsman's Modified Scout gk.0 Commando gk.0
Golden Day Y.A.M.A.H 998	Posted - 2015.03.10 04:43:00 - [52] - Quote Swarms lauchers can easliy take down a vechile.... Thats not balanced. It would be balanced if it required teamwork to take down our expensive deadly machines! Only very good forge gunners should be able to take a tank down im not crazy......( -í° -£-û -í°)
Edau Skir2 Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 777	Posted - 2015.03.10 04:59:00 - [53] - Quote Golden Day wrote: Swarms lauchers can easliy take down a vechile.... Thats not balanced. It would be balanced if it required teamwork to take down our expensive deadly machines! Only very good forge gunners should be able to take a tank down 1) No they cannot. 2) It does require teamwork 3) Then what is the point in Swarms and Plasma? Put into an example, using my reference to a Sica, I use Milita Heavy Shield Booster and Militia Shield Hardener. With those, escaping a swarm user if he is located out of fire arc is ridiculously easy. So how LudiKure's "Proto" tank that he's so fond of bragging about dies to one swarm user, is beyond me. Swarms are not OP, stupidity is what is really OP here. Logistics mk.0 / Logibro's Modified Logistics mk.0 Scout gk.0/ Scotsman's Modified Scout gk.0 Commando gk.0
demonkiller 12 Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 648	Posted - 2015.03.10 05:15:00 - [54] - Quote LudiKure ninda wrote: demonkiller 12 wrote: i'm amazed at the amount of utterly ** vehicle users in this game, you know exactly what's and what's OP armor vehicles are ** - DON'T USE THEM shield vehicles with dual hardeners are OP and unless there's a full proto AV squad after you and you're playing like an idiot, you're never going to lose your tank/dropship - USE THEM AV is fine, if anything AV need a buff or a rework, look at shield AV plasma cannon and flux grenades flux grenades are timed and do not detonate from proximity like AV grenades do plasma cannons travel slow and have an arc also doesn't home like swarms do shield vehicles are faster and far more agile so unless they're sitting completely still you're probably never going to hit them gall comando with 2 allotek PLC 1700dmg after patch,with 2 kincats and 2 dmg mods? That thing can kill any vehicle very quickly. doesnt matter how much damage it does, plc travels slow with an arc, shield vehicles are fast and agile try again
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 354	Posted - 2015.03.10 10:28:00 - [55] - Quote Squagga wrote: When degenerates stop hiding in tanks I agree to a point. Damage is fine, but I have an issue with people still being able to fire at me after i have moved out of the lock range. (I have tested this) I also have an issue with being able to fire the next volley before the first has even made contact. I run ADV 120mm plates on my grimsnes because i know that once ive been hit by one swarm, ive already been hit by three What am I doing here?
Generic Gristle Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 19	Posted - 2015.03.10 10:35:00 - [56] - Quote LudiKure ninda wrote: Dropshis dont stand a chance,..if there is atleast one av player on the map,he is denyng my playstyle completly... How can that be right? i'm run and gun. if you make me play AV you're denying my playstyle too.
Edgar Reinhart Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 36	Posted - 2015.03.10 11:35:00 - [57] - Quote ADV/Proto swarms are OP against the militia tanks currently on offer. Try taking out anything other than an unfitted basic tank with a militia swarm on the the starter suit and you barely scratch them. Even if there are two or three of you. They are completely useless against 60 or 70% of the tanks on the battlefield. See if the tank changes help balance to the Commandos and Wiyrkomi Swarm Launcher's which I agree absolutely wreck. Dropships.... slightly different but still militia swarms are more a nuisance than a threat and work the odd +75 here and there.
LudiKure ninda Dead Man's Game RUST415 230	Posted - 2015.03.10 12:49:00 - [58] - Quote All I can say to some people here that I hope when new tanks come in there will powerfull enough that they can stand against SOLO mincomando.And what I mean by that that I can survive one clip from his SL to run away. Im tanking almost a year in this game,.. hell tanks were more viable before 1.7 patch when swarms had ****** lock on range. you could actually kill infantry with blasters,...now its imposible.. So why should you be able to kill me in 3 volleys from swarms,and I cant kill you with my turrents?? (I can kill only wehicles with rail turrent,..and sometimes I can kill infantry if they are standing still...) Im only real threat to other wehicles..) right now its kinda stupid to bitching about it,chause there is no balance right now,but changes are comming. Tanks will be alot more viable I hope in next patch. Only place right now to use wehicles is PC,.. Chause there is alot of good players that actualy to theyr yob and fight 4 the point to win. Tanks in PC are used to kill other vehicles,not farm kills (chause you cant,and that wont be posiblle in this game anymore,as rattati said wehicles are meant to kill other wehicles, large turrent are AV, not AI,and it wont ever be..) Pubs are full of frustrated people that cannot aim,or they hawe no gun game so they are sitting whole match ontop of buiding with mincomando and farming wp. Hell I dont even use blaster turrent,chause they cant kill ,I use 90% of the time I use a Particle cannon to kill other vehicles. How can I deny your plaistyle if I cant kill you if youre Infantry?? My best game in a tank was 12-0, while you can go 50+ kills in a proto suit??? Like I said I hope this minmando ** will be balanced with new hulls coming out... And yes anti Shield AV needs some love. PLC and fluxes.. Not SL!! ( -í° -£-û -í°) `Send your isk here!`


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