DUST Search - Nerfing Strafing is irresponsible...

Kalante Schiffer wrote:

FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:

Squagga wrote:

FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:

xavier zor wrote:

KB/M strafers are most likely what these guys are complaining about Roll

I think the majority of the people complaining are assaults class. They want everything nerfed so it'll be just point and click forever.

Alright, I'm not sure what this is, I havent gotten back yet. However, as strictly an assault, rail rifle operator. I rely strictly on staffing to keep me alive and compliment my gun game. That's the best thing about this game. If you can't shoot, you better have a lot of friends

Sorry I'm kinda against assaults, I just recently came back from a long break. Still have that grudge against the AR from when you used to be able to snipe with them. They got a lot of good weapons nerfed to the ground.

The hell are you talking about. Weapons got nerfed because they were OP to anyone who had no skill of their own. You could put two people in the same level field and guess what who is going to win? the one with the most individual skill. Right now the rail rifle to me is fine because i know how to use it, but there are people complaining that its kick is ridiculously high which makes me laugh when i hear that. Like grow some aiming skills yo. Its not that hard to learn to control recoil.

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DeadlyAztec11 Defenders of the Helghast Dream 7898	Posted - 2015.03.09 05:02:00 - [1] - Quote ... If Sentinels are kept as good as they are. Just an opinion. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
xavier zor 0uter.Heaven Back and Forth 735	Posted - 2015.03.09 05:05:00 - [2] - Quote KB/M strafers are most likely what these guys are complaining about retired stabbed musturd, duna, radar, tibs replying
FLAYLOCK Steve Kinsho Swords Caldari State 469	Posted - 2015.03.09 05:09:00 - [3] - Quote xavier zor wrote: KB/M strafers are most likely what these guys are complaining about I think the majority of the people complaining are assaults class. They want everything nerfed so it'll be just point and click forever.
DeadlyAztec11 Defenders of the Helghast Dream 7899	Posted - 2015.03.09 05:11:00 - [4] - Quote xavier zor wrote: KB/M strafers are most likely what these guys are complaining about I heard that KB-M isn't even that good outside of sniping. Still, Strafing feels like the only way to kill Sentinels in face to face CQC. Which happens a lot when they drive up to you, spawn near you or when you have to defend a point. The only other way is to keep an object between each other and try to get more shots on him then on yourself. Strafing is a broken mechanic though. I think we can all agree on that. Though currently it is a necessary evil. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Squagga The State Protectorate 344	Posted - 2015.03.09 05:42:00 - [5] - Quote FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: xavier zor wrote: KB/M strafers are most likely what these guys are complaining about I think the majority of the people complaining are assaults class. They want everything nerfed so it'll be just point and click forever. Alright, I'm not sure what this is, I havent gotten back yet. However, as strictly an assault, rail rifle operator. I rely strictly on staffing to keep me alive and compliment my gun game. That's the best thing about this game. If you can't shoot, you better have a lot of friends Reloading, the silent killer.
FLAYLOCK Steve Kinsho Swords Caldari State 470	Posted - 2015.03.09 05:47:00 - [6] - Quote Squagga wrote: FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: xavier zor wrote: KB/M strafers are most likely what these guys are complaining about I think the majority of the people complaining are assaults class. They want everything nerfed so it'll be just point and click forever. Alright, I'm not sure what this is, I havent gotten back yet. However, as strictly an assault, rail rifle operator. I rely strictly on staffing to keep me alive and compliment my gun game. That's the best thing about this game. If you can't shoot, you better have a lot of friends Sorry I'm kinda against assaults, I just recently came back from a long break. Still have that grudge against the AR from when you used to be able to snipe with them. They got a lot of good weapons nerfed to the ground.
Kalante Schiffer Ancient Exiles. 986	Posted - 2015.03.09 05:57:00 - [7] - Quote FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: Squagga wrote: FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: xavier zor wrote: KB/M strafers are most likely what these guys are complaining about I think the majority of the people complaining are assaults class. They want everything nerfed so it'll be just point and click forever. Alright, I'm not sure what this is, I havent gotten back yet. However, as strictly an assault, rail rifle operator. I rely strictly on staffing to keep me alive and compliment my gun game. That's the best thing about this game. If you can't shoot, you better have a lot of friends Sorry I'm kinda against assaults, I just recently came back from a long break. Still have that grudge against the AR from when you used to be able to snipe with them. They got a lot of good weapons nerfed to the ground. The hell are you talking about. Weapons got nerfed because they were OP to anyone who had no skill of their own. You could put two people in the same level field and guess what who is going to win? the one with the most individual skill. framerate>everything else
FLAYLOCK Steve Kinsho Swords Caldari State 470	Posted - 2015.03.09 20:24:00 - [8] - Quote Kalante Schiffer wrote: FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: Squagga wrote: FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: xavier zor wrote: KB/M strafers are most likely what these guys are complaining about I think the majority of the people complaining are assaults class. They want everything nerfed so it'll be just point and click forever. Alright, I'm not sure what this is, I havent gotten back yet. However, as strictly an assault, rail rifle operator. I rely strictly on staffing to keep me alive and compliment my gun game. That's the best thing about this game. If you can't shoot, you better have a lot of friends Sorry I'm kinda against assaults, I just recently came back from a long break. Still have that grudge against the AR from when you used to be able to snipe with them. They got a lot of good weapons nerfed to the ground. The hell are you talking about. Weapons got nerfed because they were OP to anyone who had no skill of their own. You could put two people in the same level field and guess what who is going to win? the one with the most individual skill. Right now the rail rifle to me is fine because i know how to use it, but there are people complaining that its kick is ridiculously high which makes me laugh when i hear that. Like grow some aiming skills yo. Its not that hard to learn to control recoil. Dude everyone was asking for the AR to be nerfed, it took a long time for CCP to aactually do it. Instead they nerfed everything else, some was nerfed to the ground that it became unusable for a while before they actually made it semi ok. So don't talk about things being OP. You're acting like the request to nerf the AR at that time wasn't the most requested nerf during that time Yet everything else got nerfed. And telling me to grow some aiming skills? Stfu, my aim is good, for someone who just came back I can hold my own using a scout suit. How about you stop talking sh!t and realize what I'm saying is true. Ever heard of "go ar or go home" yea. I pretty much active as hell during those times. Active on debates regarding weapons.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 8329	Posted - 2015.03.09 20:30:00 - [9] - Quote In my mind it is not strafing in and of itself that is a problem, but the lack of inertia, and the ability to seemlessly transition from one direction to the other at full speed instantaneously. And while I do understand it is the best way to deal with Sentinals at times, I think it is better to fix any broken mechanics so we will really be able to balance suits out. It will be hard to get to a better balance if broken counters mask a larger problem. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
axis alpha Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 670	Posted - 2015.03.09 20:41:00 - [10] - Quote Kalante Schiffer wrote: FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: Squagga wrote: FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: xavier zor wrote: KB/M strafers are most likely what these guys are complaining about I think the majority of the people complaining are assaults class. They want everything nerfed so it'll be just point and click forever. Alright, I'm not sure what this is, I havent gotten back yet. However, as strictly an assault, rail rifle operator. I rely strictly on staffing to keep me alive and compliment my gun game. That's the best thing about this game. If you can't shoot, you better have a lot of friends Sorry I'm kinda against assaults, I just recently came back from a long break. Still have that grudge against the AR from when you used to be able to snipe with them. They got a lot of good weapons nerfed to the ground. The hell are you talking about. Weapons got nerfed because they were OP to anyone who had no skill of their own. You could put two people in the same level field and guess what who is going to win? the one with the most individual skill. Right now the rail rifle to me is fine because i know how to use it, but there are people complaining that its kick is ridiculously high which makes me laugh when i hear that. Like grow some aiming skills yo. Its not that hard to learn to control recoil. This. I cut you up so bad.... You gonna wish I no cut you up so bad.

Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 589	Posted - 2015.03.09 20:43:00 - [11] - Quote Wait wait, I'll get out my violin... The new C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y, I'm that Heavy you warn your team about <3 -Heavy/Commando/Logi/Assault/Scout-
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 3191	Posted - 2015.03.09 20:52:00 - [12] - Quote You wanna know how to kill sentinels fast? Forgegun, Plasma Cannon, RE`s. Generally I use these. If you can aim, the forge is the one to use if you want to blap heavies with logis all over them. Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa? MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1835	Posted - 2015.03.09 21:04:00 - [13] - Quote Why stand toe to toe if your not one yourself , I mean ... how can an assault expect , hell anyone for that matter ... expect to stand toe to toe with a Sentinel unless your one yourself ? How is that wrong .?. I see that as working as intended and no , I'm not a Sent .. I respect out when people started complaining about them like they can't be killed . I mean , hell you want easy ... go play COD , BF , HALO or any other store shelf with a TTK of a second . Now that's point and click / shoot 2 kill . Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
John Psi Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 1368	Posted - 2015.03.09 21:24:00 - [14] - Quote Dear OP, can u change "nerfing" in thread subj to "using"? Thank you. Please support fair play!
Summa Militum Hidd3n Dragon 233	Posted - 2015.03.09 21:31:00 - [15] - Quote The only time I really have a problem with strafing is when the person manages to dodge all or most of the bullets I fire. If I am firing a stream of bullets at 400-500 rounds a minute and you strafe into that stream of bullets it should **** you up.
Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2542	Posted - 2015.03.09 21:54:00 - [16] - Quote Once HMGs get their nerf, I think the next step will be to reduce stafing by a decent %. I want to say strafing should be 90% the speed of backpedaling, as it is much faster to actually run backwards than it is to run sideways. Human legs aren't very good at sideways movement. So 76.5% of forward speed. Current strafe speed is 90%, for reference. Home at Last <3
Squagga The State Protectorate 350	Posted - 2015.03.09 21:57:00 - [17] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: The only time I really have a problem with strafing is when the person manages to dodge all or most of the bullets I fire. If I am firing a stream of bullets at 400-500 rounds a minute and you strafe into that stream of bullets it should **** you up. Sounds like you need to get up your aim on. Nerfing strafing is a bull of bullkitten! Reloading, the silent killer.
Thumb Green The Valyrian Mercenary Army 2127	Posted - 2015.03.09 22:05:00 - [18] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Strafing is a broken mechanic though. I think we can all agree on that. Though currently it is a necessary evil. I guess I'm a bit old school cause I can't agree on that, strafing is FPS bread'n'butter. An FPS without strafing is an FPS without a soul. Take your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty hipster! Rated [TV-MA]
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 2597	Posted - 2015.03.09 23:29:00 - [19] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: You wanna know how to kill sentinels fast? Forgegun, Plasma Cannon, RE`s. Generally I use these. If you can aim, the forge is the one to use if you want to blap heavies with logis all over them. I wish it would OHKO them... But noooo... Skill iz 2 op to kill mah sent. I have soooo many recorded instances of Sents walking out of my direct PLC hits with a quarter armor left... Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
MOSTLY MOIST IT'S SO BROKEN 0	Posted - 2015.03.10 01:01:00 - [20] - Quote CCP are just a bunch of faggit ass ***** liars. In the beginning of this game (closed beta) they said they were not going to bring kb/M to DUST. As usual, they pussed out and caved like a high school prom date. What a bunch of fagtards.



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