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DIX RFOR CHICKS
T.U.R.D. R.O.C.K.
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Posted - 2015.03.08 17:38:00 -
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With the news about Hotfix echo and vehicles, I saw that the mulitplier was moved from 4x to 8x. Meaning that it would cost twice as much SP investment into vehicles.
When Echo drops, will there be a Vehicle Skill Tree refund of SP or will it stay how it is?
I dropped 2.5M SP into vehicles last night. Vehicle Command, Upgrades, Turret all to 5. HAV to 3. Before you all come at me with the NO RESPECS for you,,I am not asking for one. I am asking so that I know if it was a smart investment or if it is just going to refunded in two weeks. I hate vehicles,,,but if I ever was going to invest in them, might as well be smart about it.
PLUS #FREECUBS #BringBackCubs #CubsWillWinWorldSeriesOneDay |
postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.03.08 17:42:00 -
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Try it if you dont like it you can buy respec, easy peasy.
and btw
#BanAllSpammers!
"Sebiestor Hetzer"
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DIX RFOR CHICKS
T.U.R.D. R.O.C.K.
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Posted - 2015.03.08 17:45:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:Try it if you dont like it you can by respec, easy peasy.
and btw
#BanAllSpammers!
Very true. But I believe it is a point that CCP should make known to GD. I don't need a respec though...55M Sp, I had 2.5 unallocated, so I thought why not.
Then I went spent 20M isk trying to build tanks,,,and wow do I suck . I started with the basics (Soma,Sica) then moved on to Maddies and Gunnies. |
DIX RFOR CHICKS
T.U.R.D. R.O.C.K.
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Posted - 2015.03.08 17:46:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:Try it if you dont like it you can buy respec, easy peasy.
and btw
#BringBackCubs!
Fixed it for ya. Thank you
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.03.08 17:51:00 -
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DIX RFOR CHICKS wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Try it if you dont like it you can buy respec, easy peasy.
and btw
#BringBackCubs! Fixed it for ya. Thank you
#Reported4you
"Sebiestor Hetzer"
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.03.08 17:52:00 -
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DIX RFOR CHICKS wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Try it if you dont like it you can by respec, easy peasy.
and btw
#BanAllSpammers! Very true. But I believe it is a point that CCP should make known to GD. I don't need a respec though...55M Sp, I had 2.5 unallocated, so I thought why not. Then I went spent 20M isk trying to build tanks,,,and wow do I suck . I started with the basics (Soma,Sica) then moved on to Maddies and Gunnies.
Try make an thread for tankers with some fits. Im sure tankers will help you out to find something what you will possibly use ;j
"Sebiestor Hetzer"
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DIX RFOR CHICKS
T.U.R.D. R.O.C.K.
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Posted - 2015.03.08 17:53:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:DIX RFOR CHICKS wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Try it if you dont like it you can buy respec, easy peasy.
and btw
#BringBackCubs! Fixed it for ya. Thank you #Reported4you
Thank you.. I didn't know you were so sensitive. You gotta love those types of women, who wear the feelings on their sleeves. That means they are really loving and caring. |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.08 17:57:00 -
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2.5 mil is not enough to get everything that you mentioned to 5 .
Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION
1042
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Posted - 2015.03.08 17:58:00 -
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DIX RFOR CHICKS wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:DIX RFOR CHICKS wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Try it if you dont like it you can buy respec, easy peasy.
and btw
#BringBackCubs! Fixed it for ya. Thank you #Reported4you Thank you.. I didn't know you were so sensitive. You gotta love those types of women, who wear the feelings on their sleeves. That means they are really loving and caring.
You know what, im for any kind of fun. But this already became such ridiclous. I was banned too and i took that time like selfreflection. I understand you want support some boyko from you flock, but copy/paste to all threads? It is anoying as you know what.
I dont want to put you throguh some moral cirlce of helvetian flame. But enough is enough, honestly ;j
"Sebiestor Hetzer"
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.03.08 17:59:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:2.5 mil is not enough to get everything that you mentioned to 5 . 2.5 was two days after event start. Right now we have another day and half, we still can do it.
"Sebiestor Hetzer"
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DIX RFOR CHICKS
T.U.R.D. R.O.C.K.
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Posted - 2015.03.08 18:02:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:2.5 mil is not enough to get everything that you mentioned to 5 .
Yes it is. I did it last nite
Vehicle Command 310K SP = Lvl 5 Vehcile Upgrade 310KSp = lvl 5 Turrets 310KSp =Lvl 5
That is only 930K Sp. I moved HAV to lvl 3. Whats that another 186KSP?
I was not able to max any core skills without being weak somewhere else. So I just started putting 1 and 2 to try and stay even keel.
I was not claiming to have maxed the skill tree with 2.5MSp. I am no tanker, just trying to save SP incase I ever wanted to mess around.
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DIX RFOR CHICKS
T.U.R.D. R.O.C.K.
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Posted - 2015.03.08 18:04:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:DIX RFOR CHICKS wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:DIX RFOR CHICKS wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Try it if you dont like it you can buy respec, easy peasy.
and btw
#BringBackCubs! Fixed it for ya. Thank you #Reported4you Thank you.. I didn't know you were so sensitive. You gotta love those types of women, who wear the feelings on their sleeves. That means they are really loving and caring. You know what, im for any kind of fun. But this already became such ridiclous. I was banned too and i took that time like selfreflection. I understand you want support some boyko from you flock, but copy/paste to all threads? It is anoying as you know what. I dont want to put you throguh some moral cirlce of helvetian flame. But enough is enough, honestly ;j
I understand how you feel and what you are saying. BUT this thread did not start out about #Free anyone or anything like that. Just a little added bonus.
Look passed it and let it go. |
postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.03.08 18:06:00 -
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I already did, CCP do not seems to care anyway. If you saw that nonsence since yesterday.
"Sebiestor Hetzer"
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Nos Nothi
4407
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Posted - 2015.03.08 18:22:00 -
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I've been enjoying an Ion Madrugar these last couple of days; 1 Cx Heavy Repper, 1 Enh Heavy Repper, 1x CPU mod, 1 Cx Nitrous, 1 Cx Damage Mod.
When I start investing in fitting optimisation for blasters (got it maxed for rails, all module fitting skills are at max already) I might be able to fit a second complex repper.
Guys, we need to stop calling MU a 'matchmaker' when it's actually a 'teambuilder'.
And I want to play FE:A now. Damn.
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DIX RFOR CHICKS
T.U.R.D. R.O.C.K.
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Posted - 2015.03.08 18:27:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:I've been enjoying an Ion Madrugar these last couple of days; 1 Cx Heavy Repper, 1 Enh Heavy Repper, 1x CPU mod, 1 Cx Nitrous, 1 Cx Damage Mod.
When I start investing in fitting optimisation for blasters (got it maxed for rails, all module fitting skills are at max already) I might be able to fit a second complex repper.
Thank you.
Can you give me some ideas for fittings that is just beginning. i need to include enh. Nitrous. to that I can GTFO. i know I will die quite a bit becuz I suck. But to me survivability will be key and learning the terrain and using cover. |
Lorhak Gannarsein
Nos Nothi
4407
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Posted - 2015.03.08 18:55:00 -
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DIX RFOR CHICKS wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:I've been enjoying an Ion Madrugar these last couple of days; 1 Cx Heavy Repper, 1 Enh Heavy Repper, 1x CPU mod, 1 Cx Nitrous, 1 Cx Damage Mod.
When I start investing in fitting optimisation for blasters (got it maxed for rails, all module fitting skills are at max already) I might be able to fit a second complex repper. Thank you. Can you give me some ideas for fittings that is just beginning. i need to include enh. Nitrous. to that I can GTFO. i know I will die quite a bit becuz I suck. But to me survivability will be key and learning the terrain and using cover. I just checked protofits, tuirns out it's an enhanced nitro, and maxxing fitting optimisation won't really help (me) at all.
If you're just mucking around, blaster maddy is more entertaining - for actually doing full on AV work people tend to prefer rail gunnlogi (ofc), although my level of latency is really telling me I made a mistake maxing railgun fitting optimisation, but hey.
Ultimately winning a tank battle comes down to positioning and map awareness. The map changes dramatically depending on the role you're doing - hopping in a HAV means your infantry-based map knowledge is mostly meaningless; you need to find new outflanking routes, new hiding spots, stuff like that.
Nitro is good, and when the HAV changes come it'll be a permanent fixture on all my fittings, so that'll be fun. Unfortunately armour hardeners aren't really worthwhile at the moment and as such your priority really ought to be on not getting hit, which, like i said, comes down to positioning and map awareness.
Heat management is important, of course, but that's something that really comes more with practice than anything else (I'm only just getting used to the current railgun heat mechanics, for example; I was away when they changed them and my muscle memory needed readjusting).
Ultimately there isn't much difference between a STD fit and a PRO fit at the moment; if you need to make sacrifices the only thing, though, that you can sacrifice safely (without compromising short-term tank, I mean) is hardeners and shield boosters - the uptime, resistance levels and boost totals don't change throughout tiers.
If you're using damage mods use the best one you can. Use the highest tier weapon you can fit (and afford); damage mods don't make up the difference. If you have to choose between the two, I'd probably recommend the weapon and more tank/utility in the freed up high slot.
The difference between an enhanced and a complex armour repairer at max skills is twenty-five hp/s. I've only fitted it because I have nowhere else to really invest in my fitting; with the sheer quantities of DPS that swarms and other HAVs deliver, you might not feel it's worth the investment.
Really it comes down to how you want to play - for pubbing on a low-sp character, two shield hardeners and a heavy extender works well enough, and you've fitting mods to fill out the CPU if need be, on a Madrugar be prepared to fit a CPU mod if you want to actually use your high slots for damage mods (but that's something you want for AV, so it's not necessarily a priority anyway). For surviving AV in a Madrugar an armour hardener is fine; use a Basic for fitting purposes; it's an emergency item, after all and downtime ought not to be a big deal. Armour hardeners are great on a Gunnlogi - IF you're fitting a 120 plate as well, although this is starting to get into single-use AV fittings...
That's all I can think of offhand, rereading it it's a bit haphazardly organised, but it's five to six and I gotta sleep :P
Guys, we need to stop calling MU a 'matchmaker' when it's actually a 'teambuilder'.
And I want to play FE:A now. Damn.
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DIX RFOR CHICKS
T.U.R.D. R.O.C.K.
75
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Posted - 2015.03.08 19:08:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:DIX RFOR CHICKS wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:I've been enjoying an Ion Madrugar these last couple of days; 1 Cx Heavy Repper, 1 Enh Heavy Repper, 1x CPU mod, 1 Cx Nitrous, 1 Cx Damage Mod.
When I start investing in fitting optimisation for blasters (got it maxed for rails, all module fitting skills are at max already) I might be able to fit a second complex repper. Thank you. Can you give me some ideas for fittings that is just beginning. i need to include enh. Nitrous. to that I can GTFO. i know I will die quite a bit becuz I suck. But to me survivability will be key and learning the terrain and using cover. I just checked protofits, tuirns out it's an enhanced nitro, and maxxing fitting optimisation won't really help (me) at all. If you're just mucking around, blaster maddy is more entertaining - for actually doing full on AV work people tend to prefer rail gunnlogi (ofc), although my level of latency is really telling me I made a mistake maxing railgun fitting optimisation, but hey. Ultimately winning a tank battle comes down to positioning and map awareness. The map changes dramatically depending on the role you're doing - hopping in a HAV means your infantry-based map knowledge is mostly meaningless; you need to find new outflanking routes, new hiding spots, stuff like that. Nitro is good, and when the HAV changes come it'll be a permanent fixture on all my fittings, so that'll be fun. Unfortunately armour hardeners aren't really worthwhile at the moment and as such your priority really ought to be on not getting hit, which, like i said, comes down to positioning and map awareness. Heat management is important, of course, but that's something that really comes more with practice than anything else (I'm only just getting used to the current railgun heat mechanics, for example; I was away when they changed them and my muscle memory needed readjusting). Ultimately there isn't much difference between a STD fit and a PRO fit at the moment; if you need to make sacrifices the only thing, though, that you can sacrifice safely (without compromising short-term tank, I mean) is hardeners and shield boosters - the uptime, resistance levels and boost totals don't change throughout tiers. If you're using damage mods use the best one you can. Use the highest tier weapon you can fit (and afford); damage mods don't make up the difference. If you have to choose between the two, I'd probably recommend the weapon and more tank/utility in the freed up high slot. The difference between an enhanced and a complex armour repairer at max skills is twenty-five hp/s. I've only fitted it because I have nowhere else to really invest in my fitting; with the sheer quantities of DPS that swarms and other HAVs deliver, you might not feel it's worth the investment. Really it comes down to how you want to play - for pubbing on a low-sp character, two shield hardeners and a heavy extender works well enough, and you've fitting mods to fill out the CPU if need be, on a Madrugar be prepared to fit a CPU mod if you want to actually use your high slots for damage mods (but that's something you want for AV, so it's not necessarily a priority anyway). For surviving AV in a Madrugar an armour hardener is fine; use a Basic for fitting purposes; it's an emergency item, after all and downtime ought not to be a big deal. Armour hardeners are great on a Gunnlogi - IF you're fitting a 120 plate as well, although this is starting to get into single-use AV fittings... That's all I can think of offhand, rereading it it's a bit haphazardly organised, but it's five to six and I gotta sleep :P
WOW, thank you for all the information and taking the time to type that. It is appreciated and will be used. LOL I am writing it down, so that when I get on I dont have to keep checking on here. Again, Thank you. |
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