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Cypher Nil
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Posted - 2015.03.08 17:34:00 -
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I noticed a discussion yesterday concerning scouts and their lack of, well.. scouting behaviour. Now I don't have a problem with the way scouts are in the current patch but I've been thinking of ways of adding to the scouting giving them capability's other then just being a lighter faster dropsuit then the other's in the game.
consider that heavy dropsuits specifically sentinels have access to the heavy weapons locked off to the other suits types why not add new utility equipment only accessible to light frames specifically scout suits. This would include
A Tracking gun: A small single shot bolt action gun which "tags" an enemy unity revealing them on the map for somewhere between 20 - 60 seconds. It does next to no damage and is slow firing so cant be spammed but offers kill assist and information gathering battle points, not too many but enough to make it worthwhile. This works on vehicles too and increases swarm launcher lockon speed if the target it tagged.
Mobile Scanner: Small scale scanner device dropped at a location, this sends out pulses every so often (maybe 10 - 15 seconds) which work like scanners revealing enemy units for 1 second. used in tight locations to give teammates battle information such as number of enemy and direction. gives moderate battle points. has a hard time detecting scout/light suites, low profiles are still low
The Banshee: Small device planted on the ground, if ANY enemy unit come within a certain range it screeches loudly warning your team of an enemy in the area, works on cloaked units, vehicles, EVERYTHING.
BUT this does not reveal their exact location just that their in the area. I can see this being used to defend small locations and might encourage scouts to grab some sniper rifles for a change as this can be used to defend against those shotgun/nova knife foes sneaking up and stabbing them in the back while your trying to scope out and enemy.
Give me some feedback on what you think, I feel this would add a few more role behaviour's to scouts we presently have in the game
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Cypher Nil
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Posted - 2015.03.08 21:01:00 -
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Stormblade Green wrote:Going to go ahead and so for those who Don't know me. I hate scouts. But this is quite interesting ideas... got any stats for all tiers of these?
Their strengths like sneaking and speed can certainly seem quite unfair at times.
as for stat's and tiers hey would have to have a low enough CPU/PG cost to be able to be fitted on teh scouts dropsuits while having a high enough cost that a scout couldn't equip them ALONG WITH a full combat build. I was thinking if they choose to
bring along the Tracking gun it would take the place of a secondary weapon slot and have a cost restricting equipping a proto or advanced shogun for example.
Track gun:Tier One
50 damage, no bonus damage to shields/armour.
150 RPM
75 Accuracy
1 clip size
36 max ammo
1.5 reload time
10 cpu
6 pG
Marks up to 3 targets for 40 seconds.
Track gun:Tier Two
60 damage, no bonus damage to shields/armour.
150 RPM
75 Accuracy
2 clip size
36 max ammo
1.5 reload time
25 cpu
10 pG
Marks up to 5 targets for 50 seconds.
Track gun:Tier Three
70 damage, no bonus damage to shields/armour.
150 RPM
75 Accuracy
1 clip size
36 max ammo
1.5 reload time
32 cpu
12 pG
Marks up to 6 targets for 60 seconds.
Mobile Scanner:Tier One
100 Scan Distance
360 Degree Direction
1 second duration
1 second target visible
10 seconds between pulses
46 dB scan precision
32 CPU
9 PU
Mobile Scanner:Tier Two
125 Scan Distance
360 Degree Direction
1 second duration
2 second target visible
9 seconds between pulses
36 dB scan precision
38 CPU
9 PU
Mobile Scanner:Tier Three
150 Scan Distance
360 Degree Direction
1 second duration
3 second target visible
8 seconds between pulses
28 dB scan precision
46 CPU
9 PU
Banshee: Tier One
20 Detect Distance
360 Degree Direction
32 CPU
9 PU
Banshee: Tier Two
30 Detect Distance
360 Degree Direction
38 CPU
9 PU
Banshee: Tier Three
40 Detect Distance
360 Degree Direction
46 CPU
9 PU
I Think with my understanding of the cost per componant setup CCP uses that this is close to balanced, let me know what you think on the numbers
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Cypher Nil
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Posted - 2015.03.08 23:27:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Part of the trick to getting scouts to use these items is having a WP benefit.
People generally will not use something if they don't see a direct WP or ISK benefit from the item, while those that don't need the incentive are probably already doing a greater variety of things than killing.
Of course this should be considered, It is afterall why CCP added a WP defence bonus for defending objectives on the map.
As stated the tracking gun would reward the player with the normal warpoints reward for assisting a kill but the assist time extends to the timer on the tracker. tag someone and if their killed 35 seconds later you still get the assist warpoints. this counts for vehicles as well. you would also get a spotter bonus. lets say +15-20 for a tagged infantry unit and +25 - 30 for a tagging an enemy vehicle.
the mobile scanner would give you +5 warpoints per enemy spotted while its operational
the Banshee gives a +30 warpoints for triggering
if any of these bonuses seem too high you could always add a cap per minute to the rewards they generate
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Cypher Nil
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Posted - 2015.03.09 15:52:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:30 POINTS MY REP tool doesn't get 30 points so why should you. WP farmers
but you can get points from a rep tool constantly when in combat, you need to find the enemy to make these trigger their wp values.
their would also be a time gap between a banshee triggering and a cap on the wp rewards on the scanner. so what's the issue?
I have the fact that some players might try to exploit this for farming in mind, by capping some of the equipment ir adjusting the values it can easliy be kept in line with other methods of gaining WP
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Cypher Nil
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Posted - 2015.03.10 01:37:00 -
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Stormblade Green wrote:Nice stats though they could use a little reworking....
http://keytokorean.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/nothing-is-written-in-stone.jpg
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