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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.08 14:55:00 -
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Big Burns wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Do I?
. .. ... .... ..... ...... ....... ........ ......... .......... ......... ........ ....... ...... ..... .... ... .. . I have a lot of nerves to spare! Zatara Rought-"Guys, seriously...we can't cheat in PC's anymore now that I'm CPM."
Cause thats as bad as willingly breaking the eula?
Big Burns wrote:Ummm....I've made over $200 by selling isk, this past week. Why is it right to ban Cubs and not me??? Why am I so special?
Hey Soldner, why are you such a cynic?
Ever read the dust forums? You'll know why.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.08 15:01:00 -
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Big Burns wrote:You see how he shut up right? Don't know who the h*ll you think I am. Best be steppin, before I start pulling out the skeletons in your closet. And video don't lie....so I'd think really hard about your past before you say anything else Zatara.
Speaking of shutting up, you still have yet to answer my question in your "we the people" thread.
Hey Soldner, why are you such a cynic?
Ever read the dust forums? You'll know why.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.08 15:09:00 -
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D4GG3R wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Big Burns wrote:You see how he shut up right? Don't know who the h*ll you think I am. Best be steppin, before I start pulling out the skeletons in your closet. And video don't lie....so I'd think really hard about your past before you say anything else Zatara. Speaking of shutting up, you still have yet to answer my question in your "we the people" thread. The lurker speaks
I'm a lurker? news to me, i always thought i was that assmunch that made valid points in too much of a big burns manner to be taken seriously.
Thanks?
Hey Soldner, why are you such a cynic?
Ever read the dust forums? You'll know why.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.08 21:02:00 -
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Big Burns wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Big Burns wrote:You see how he shut up right? Don't know who the h*ll you think I am. Best be steppin, before I start pulling out the skeletons in your closet. And video don't lie....so I'd think really hard about your past before you say anything else Zatara. Speaking of shutting up, you still have yet to answer my question in your "we the people" thread. Have you finished your mental evaluation?
Autism spectrum, with high social anxiety, an intense cynical outlook developed from deep trust issues capped off with a god complex.
Could you quit posturing to try and gain an argumentative advantage and answer the question.
Here, I'll ask it again:
How is Cubs innocent and/or falsely punished?
Hey Soldner, why are you such a cynic?
Ever read the dust forums? You'll know why.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.08 21:16:00 -
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Big Burns wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Big Burns wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Big Burns wrote:You see how he shut up right? Don't know who the h*ll you think I am. Best be steppin, before I start pulling out the skeletons in your closet. And video don't lie....so I'd think really hard about your past before you say anything else Zatara. Speaking of shutting up, you still have yet to answer my question in your "we the people" thread. Have you finished your mental evaluation? Autism spectrum, with high social anxiety, an intense cynical outlook developed from deep trust issues capped off with a god complex. Could you quit posturing to try and gain an argumentative advantage and answer the question. Here, I'll ask it again: How is Cubs innocent and/or falsely punished? May I perform a filibuster your honor?
You have been. Performing a no-vote continues to further shrouds the Cubs event in mystery while keeping his status "guilty".
Hey Soldner, why are you such a cynic?
Ever read the dust forums? You'll know why.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
1647
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Posted - 2015.03.08 21:34:00 -
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Big Burns wrote:Ok, I've had my fun.
Why do I think Cubs should have his ban lifted? That was your question right?
Very much so, yes.
Hey Soldner, why are you such a cynic?
Ever read the dust forums? You'll know why.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
1647
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Posted - 2015.03.08 22:02:00 -
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Big Burns wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Big Burns wrote:Ok, I've had my fun.
Why do I think Cubs should have his ban lifted? That was your question right? Very much so, yes. Because he is a big teddy bear and I feel sorry for him. I thought we were more than a Dust community, I mean, we've all been playing together for years now. Maybe I thought of all of you as my family. I don't turn my back on my family...no matter what they do...I'll eventually forgive them. I think it's time that we all forgive ChicagoCubs4Ever. I don't know exactly what happened, but what I do know is that he is a good person in real life. I know the trolls are going to have a field day with this one, but let's be serious for a minute. We don't know why or what he did, we shouldn't judge. For all we know, maybe the guy was down on his luck and needed to make some cash...maybe he did what he could with what he had. (I don't know all of the details, so don't quote me on this.)...and it's none of my business nor anyone else's, just trying to help any way I can. He did a lot for this community, i.e. he did a lot for you and me....dontcha think it's time to return the favor and at least give it a shot? P.S. If this post gets locked, just know that it's because someone spoke the truth...as in any case in life....the truth is always kept secret.
See, I can respect the hell outta that. Youve lost a buddy to suspicious circumstances, and you want to him back; nothing more noble than that. I'm actually being serious.
The flip side though, is if the speculative rumors are true about the whole RMT business, the community efforts will most likely be in vain, because there's true legal ramifications of that action.
Since CCP is a privately held entity, they have no requirement to provide us with details, which I will agree is crap, but annoyingly, its their right.
#liftthevail #justiceforall.
Hey Soldner, why are you such a cynic?
Ever read the dust forums? You'll know why.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.08 22:40:00 -
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Mex-0 wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:He broke the EULA. Don't do the crime if you don't want to do the time. And how exactly...? I'm not defending him, I just want to know.
Rumor says real-money transfer.
Aka: Selling ISK for real life cash, with out CCP involvement.
Hey Soldner, why are you such a cynic?
Ever read the dust forums? You'll know why.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.08 22:43:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Mex-0 wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:He broke the EULA. Don't do the crime if you don't want to do the time. And how exactly...? I'm not defending him, I just want to know. Rumor says real-money transfer. Aka: Selling ISK for real life cash, with out CCP involvement.
This is the actual wording in the EULA regarding RMTs
CCP GAMES wrote: B. SELLING ITEMS AND OBJECTS Within DUST 514, you may be permitted to transfer, trade, auction, sell, buy or otherwise accept virtual goods and other content appearing within the Game, including without limitation character attributes, items, currency, and objects, but excluding characters themselves (which may not be sold or transferred from their associated Account). All such transfers must occur within the Game environment, and may not be transferred, traded, auctioned, sold, purchased or otherwise accepted outside of the Game environment. In addition, you may not transfer, trade, auction, sell, buy, or accept any offer to transfer, trade, auction, sell or buy any content appearing within the Game environment, including without limitation characters, character attributes, items, currency, and objects, for real world currency. You may not encourage or induce any other person to participate in such a prohibited transaction. The buying, selling, trading, auctioning, or other transfer (or any attempt at doing so) of characters, character attributes, items, currency, or objects outside of the Game environment or for real world currency, whether through online auctions, newsgroups, postings on message boards or any other means, is strictly prohibited by the EULA and a violation of CCP's proprietary rights in the Game. Unless otherwise prohibited by applicable law, you acknowledge that any revenue generated by you in violation of this section constitutes proceeds from the sale of CCPGÇÖs proprietary property, and that upon demand of CCP, you shall account for and pay over to CCP all such revenues.
Hey Soldner, why are you such a cynic?
Ever read the dust forums? You'll know why.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.08 23:23:00 -
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I'm sorry BB, but even with these points of contention, the EULA is extremely 'at-will' reliant. Meaning they can terminate the agreement at any time, for any reason, and not have to discuss it. E.G. permabanning cubs.
The best course of action IMHO, is to get CCP to comment on the matter first, and then plan how to debate it.
Hey Soldner, why are you such a cynic?
Ever read the dust forums? You'll know why.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.08 23:40:00 -
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Big Burns wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:I'm sorry BB, but even with these points of contention, the EULA is extremely 'at-will' reliant. Meaning they can terminate the agreement at any time, for any reason, and not have to discuss it. E.G. permabanning cubs.
The best course of action IMHO, is to get CCP to comment on the matter first, and then plan how to debate it.
Can anyone copy and paste the section of this agreement that states this? "Meaning they can terminate the agreement at any time, for any reason, and not have to discuss it."
Gimme a minute, harder to do on my phone but ill get it.
CCP GAMES wrote:
BY CCP FOR BREACH OR MISCONDUCT i. Suspension of Account Without limiting CCP's rights or remedies, CCP may immediately and without notice discontinue or suspend access to the System through your Account, and any and all other Accounts that share the name, phone number, e-mail address, internet protocol address or credit card number with the discontinued or suspended Account, in the event of (i) a breach of the EULA (including the rules of conduct) by you or any user under your Account; or (ii) unauthorized access to the System or use of the Game by you or any user under your Account.
Hey Soldner, why are you such a cynic?
Ever read the dust forums? You'll know why.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.08 23:46:00 -
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Also:
CCP GAMES wrote: Termination of EULA CCP, in its sole discretion, may immediately and without notice terminate the EULA, close all your Accounts, and cancel all rights granted to you under the EULA if: (i) you fail to pay the Fees when due; (ii) CCP is unable to verify or authenticate any information you provide; (iii) you or anyone using any of your Accounts materially breaches the EULA, makes any unauthorized use of the System or Software, or infringes the rights of CCP or any third party; or (iv) CCP becomes aware of gameplay, chat or player activity under your Account that is, in CCP's discretion, inappropriate, offensive, or in violation of the rules of conduct. CCP may, but is not obligated to, provide notice of termination via electronic mail, or any other means reasonably calculated to reach you.
CCP reserves the right to terminate any and all other Accounts in both DUST514 and EVE that share the name, phone number, e-mail address, internet protocol address or credit card number with a closed Account. Termination by CCP under this section shall be without prejudice to or waiver of any and all of CCP's other rights or remedies, all of which are expressly reserved, survive termination, and are cumulative. You will not be entitled to receive a refund of any Fees for a termination pursuant to this section.
Hey Soldner, why are you such a cynic?
Ever read the dust forums? You'll know why.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.09 00:02:00 -
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Big Burns wrote:Notwithstanding the foregoing, CCP may, in its sole discretion, waive any and all Fees due to CCP.
Wonder if they at least did this for him?
BB, wanna make a petition in the feedback and ideas section asking them to comment on the Cubs event or should i?
Hey Soldner, why are you such a cynic?
Ever read the dust forums? You'll know why.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.09 00:45:00 -
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DIX RFOR CHICKS wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Big Burns wrote:You see how he shut up right? Don't know who the h*ll you think I am. Best be steppin, before I start pulling out the skeletons in your closet. And video don't lie....so I'd think really hard about your past before you say anything else Zatara. Actually some of us just have real life and don't dwell on the forums all day. If you have video of me cheating I'd love to see it. *thinks really hard about past* Yeah I dunno wtf you're talking about. But I too can make veiled insinuations! Sadly I'm a CPM so I'm disinclined to to engage in trolling you. BUT IF I WASN'T!! <3 Edit: Let's have a hug buddy <(^_^)> Let it all out. Really,,,You had to go and egg him on. You know he can't let this go or he looks weak. He is going to come back on here freaking out . And start his ranting and raving all over again. -1 to you Sir. This is what it will look like. Thanks , Thank alot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C6nvNlVx1A
Godt dam it Z, it took two days to calm BB down enough to get good, intelligent discussion out of him instead of emotion based sperging and rage.
Thanks but no thanks for taking a baseball bat to a bee hive because your own e-peen was (not) in jeopardy of being bruised.
Could you not see this?
Hey Soldner, why are you such a cynic?
Ever read the dust forums? You'll know why.
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