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Tread Loudly 2
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.08 02:30:00 -
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Since it seems to be a very heated issue, rather than both sides making multiple threads and theoretically spamming or rallying for their cause, we can simply have a SINGLE Civil Discussion/Debate about the issue (which is the banning of ChicagoCubs4Ever for selling ISK for Money)
Now this thread could be used for this "Debate" but keep it civil as both sides are entitled to their opinions.
Disclaimer: I do not know if that is what ChicagoCubs4Ever was truly banned for, but that is what I've heard.
I Like Tanks, Nova Knives and MagSec SMG's.
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Big Burns
0uter.Heaven Back and Forth
670
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Posted - 2015.03.08 02:32:00 -
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Tread Loudly 2 wrote:Since it seems to be a very heated issue, rather than both sides making multiple threads and theoretically spamming or rallying for their cause, we can simply have a SINGLE Civil Discussion/Debate about the issue (which is the banning of ChicagoCubs4Ever for selling ISK for Money)
Now this thread could be used for this "Debate" but keep it civil as both sides are entitled to their opinions.
Disclaimer: I do not know if that is what ChicagoCubs4Ever was truly banned for, but that is what I've heard.
Lies. All of it. CCP alt troll^
Dust514- 90% L3 / 10% R1
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BLOOD Ruler
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.08 02:32:00 -
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Excellent, I will vote once having read the others.
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
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Posted - 2015.03.08 02:34:00 -
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I always hear welcome to new Eden so I don't understand why he was punished for something that everyone and there brother do.? It's not my choice but my opinion is he shouldn't have been permabanned
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DIX RFOR CHICKS
T.U.R.D. R.O.C.K.
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Posted - 2015.03.08 02:36:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:I always hear welcome to new Eden so I don't understand why he was punished for something that everyone and there brother do.? It's not my choice but my opinion is he shouldn't have been permabanned
I secretly agree. But I have had too many bans so I can't take another one. Main banned until August of this year |
Big Burns
0uter.Heaven Back and Forth
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Posted - 2015.03.08 02:37:00 -
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DIX RFOR CHICKS wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:I always hear welcome to new Eden so I don't understand why he was punished for something that everyone and there brother do.? It's not my choice but my opinion is he shouldn't have been permabanned I secretly agree. But I have had too many bans so I can't take another one. Main banned until August of this year
I love you right now.
Dust514- 90% L3 / 10% R1
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dy5t0pia
The dyst0pian Corporation
841
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Posted - 2015.03.08 02:39:00 -
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Cubs got busted selling ISK for real life money...he deserved what he got.
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DIX RFOR CHICKS
T.U.R.D. R.O.C.K.
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Posted - 2015.03.08 02:40:00 -
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Big Burns wrote:DIX RFOR CHICKS wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:I always hear welcome to new Eden so I don't understand why he was punished for something that everyone and there brother do.? It's not my choice but my opinion is he shouldn't have been permabanned I secretly agree. But I have had too many bans so I can't take another one. Main banned until August of this year I love you right now.
LOL SSSSSHHHHHH be quiet yo. Keep that on the DL. Damn ....you fools need to learn to keep secrets,,,like Cubs Money/Isk laundering ring. |
DIX RFOR CHICKS
T.U.R.D. R.O.C.K.
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Posted - 2015.03.08 02:42:00 -
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dy5t0pia wrote:Cubs got busted selling ISK for real life money...he deserved what he got.
You are so right bro. He deserved to be banned from a FTP VIDEO game for helping people out.
I sure hope you have never agreed or posted about EOM match payouts being too low. |
dy5t0pia
The dyst0pian Corporation
841
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Posted - 2015.03.08 02:44:00 -
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Actually I never have :)
CEO
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Diablo Gamekeeper
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.03.08 02:49:00 -
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Tread Loudly 2 wrote:Since it seems to be a very heated issue, rather than both sides making multiple threads and theoretically spamming or rallying for their cause, we can simply have a SINGLE Civil Discussion/Debate about the issue (which is the banning of ChicagoCubs4Ever for selling ISK for Money)
Now this thread could be used for this "Debate" but keep it civil as both sides are entitled to their opinions.
Disclaimer: I do not know if that is what ChicagoCubs4Ever was truly banned for, but that is what I've heard. You are correct about why he was banned. But to be perma banned is ridiculous, espicially when 40% of the playerbase does it STILL
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DAAAA BEAST
Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.03.08 03:00:00 -
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Why can't he sell isk for money ?
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DIX RFOR CHICKS
T.U.R.D. R.O.C.K.
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Posted - 2015.03.08 03:03:00 -
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DAAAA BEAST wrote:Why can't he sell isk for money ?
Something to the effect that no one should profit from this game that isnt licensed with CCP or Sony. In the EULA.
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Big Burns
0uter.Heaven Back and Forth
673
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Posted - 2015.03.08 03:55:00 -
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Ummm....I've made over $200 by selling isk, this past week. Why is it right to ban Cubs and not me??? Why am I so special?
Dust514- 90% L3 / 10% R1
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thehellisgoingon
MONSTER SYNERGY
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Posted - 2015.03.08 03:58:00 -
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Big Burns wrote:Ummm....I've made over $200 by selling isk, this past week. Why is it right to ban Cubs and not me??? Why am I so special?
Send me your isk and see you later. |
VAHZZ
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Posted - 2015.03.08 03:58:00 -
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Because it goes deeper down the rabbit hole than any of you could comprehend. Now, I suggest you get your tinfoil, and don't stir things that are beyond you.
The supreme art of war, is to subdue the enemy without fighting.
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Big Burns
0uter.Heaven Back and Forth
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Posted - 2015.03.08 04:03:00 -
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"Cookie Jar".
Dust514- 90% L3 / 10% R1
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Green Means Go
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2015.03.08 06:02:00 -
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Drops link and runs...... https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=dust+514+lets+players+sell+guns+for+real+money
I once saw a guy make $1300 on Ebay selling isk...... Is that who it was?
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DRT 99
Commando Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.08 10:30:00 -
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ok a few quick questions:
who is it?
the f&%k happened?
why should i care? |
Edau Skir2
Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION
745
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Posted - 2015.03.08 11:46:00 -
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DRT 99 wrote:ok a few quick questions:
who is it?
the f&%k happened?
why should i care?
A scammer
He scammed
You shouldn't.
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game RUST415
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Posted - 2015.03.08 11:58:00 -
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Selling game currency for real life money is illegal [game rules, etc.] in every game. Same goes for buying game currency from a player for real life money.
Everyone who is caught doing so deserves to be banned.
Caldari Hero
Loyal To The State
Mejt0 Sale List
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Jonny D Buelle
Mors Effera
634
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Posted - 2015.03.08 12:10:00 -
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From what I've read, he deserved the ban.
For one he breached the EULA. For another thing it actually cheapens the game more than all these fancy new BPOs.
Now I know an argument can be made that in EVE a player can buy PLEX with real life money and sell that for isk in game on the player market. However CCP receives the money from the initial PLEX purchase. Arguably it is the same however what cubs did was to make himself profit and not CCP.
Another argument is the selling of Titans in EVE Online. There have been people who have bought Titans AND accounts with toons to pilot Titans in the past. I think (if I remember correctly) that one sold for close to $4000. No bans were made.
So there are counter arguments to all points. But those are from a pay to play game. Selling **** to players for something they can easyily acquire with little effort is just wrong IMO. Titans on the other hand...
I find your lack of heaviness... disturbing...
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Bayeth Mal
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.03.08 12:10:00 -
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The same thing happens in EVE and they crack down hard on it.
Why act surprised? There are people at CCP who's job it is is to shut this kind of stuff down. They even give presentations on it at Fan Fest.
But feel free to keep talking about you doing it. I'm sure nobody from CCP is writing this kind of info down.
I'm disappointed in Cubs, I thought better of him than that. Sad that anyone would be so desperate for money that they'd have to do this.
It's just proving Dust players are largely made up of unemployed no-lifers.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
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Posted - 2015.03.08 12:26:00 -
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DIX RFOR CHICKS wrote:dy5t0pia wrote:Cubs got busted selling ISK for real life money...he deserved what he got. You are so right bro. He deserved to be banned from a FTP VIDEO game for helping people out. I sure hope you have never agreed or posted about EOM match payouts being too low.
http://dust514.com/eula/
Section 6, Portion B
B. Selling Items and Objects
Quote:Within DUST 514, you may be permitted to transfer, trade, auction, sell, buy or otherwise accept virtual goods and other content appearing within the Game, including without limitation character attributes, items, currency, and objects, but excluding characters themselves (which may not be sold or transferred from their associated Account). All such transfers must occur within the Game environment, and may not be transferred, traded, auctioned, sold, purchased or otherwise accepted outside of the Game environment. In addition, you may not transfer, trade, auction, sell, buy, or accept any offer to transfer, trade, auction, sell or buy any content appearing within the Game environment, including without limitation characters, character attributes, items, currency, and objects, for real world currency. You may not encourage or induce any other person to participate in such a prohibited transaction. The buying, selling, trading, auctioning, or other transfer (or any attempt at doing so) of characters, character attributes, items, currency, or objects outside of the Game environment or for real world currency, whether through online auctions, newsgroups, postings on message boards or any other means, is strictly prohibited by the EULA and a violation of CCP's proprietary rights in the Game. Unless otherwise prohibited by applicable law, you acknowledge that any revenue generated by you in violation of this section constitutes proceeds from the sale of CCPGÇÖs proprietary property, and that upon demand of CCP, you shall account for and pay over to CCP all such revenues.
Cubs violated EULA. CCP could either demand that he pay them what he profited (unlikely that he would) Or because he broke EULA, they permaban him.
He sh*t the bed on himself
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
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