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Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 840	Posted - 2015.03.07 14:37:00 - [1] - Quote Ive just seen that the damage efficency has beeing upped to 100%. So 3 proto AV nades and then mow down a tank with it? The av nades are required to get trough the 102HP shield recharge threshold. Im concerned that every heavy that uses a assault HMG will become a universal factor thats effective vs everything in the game. And yes the assault HMG has allmost compareable DPS like a large blaster. Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
Kuruld Sengar Demonite's Legion 246	Posted - 2015.03.07 14:38:00 - [2] - Quote After the changes the assault hmg will have higher vehicle dps than the plasma cannon...
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 1376	Posted - 2015.03.07 14:52:00 - [3] - Quote Its range will still be shorter, overall, than other AV weapons (AHMG 63; FG 300; Swarms 175 lock/400 travel; PLC 200) though it will likely apply better than the PLC due to projectile speed. PLC needs work as an AV weapon, I don't think the issue will be the AHMG specifically. Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 5202	Posted - 2015.03.07 15:56:00 - [4] - Quote Kuruld Sengar wrote: After the changes the assault hmg will have higher vehicle dps than the plasma cannon... Almost sounds like a heavy weapon. Usually banned for being too awesome.
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 881	Posted - 2015.03.07 16:58:00 - [5] - Quote Finally, a Minmatar AV Heavy weapon! \o/ Found my favorite DJ - ATB
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 3043	Posted - 2015.03.07 16:59:00 - [6] - Quote Sad how rifles and machine guns do damage to tanks. Nope. Confirming that pilot input is not, and never was, valued. - Breakin Stuff
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 1377	Posted - 2015.03.07 17:11:00 - [7] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Sad how rifles and machine guns do damage to tanks. Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 884	Posted - 2015.03.07 17:28:00 - [8] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Sad how rifles and machine guns do damage to tanks. Apparently 3% efficiency is too much... NERF! NERF!!! Found my favorite DJ - ATB
Godin Thekiller The Corporate Raiders 2957	Posted - 2015.03.07 17:38:00 - [9] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Sad how rifles and machine guns do damage to tanks. The AHMG will be the equivalent of strapping a bufors cannon to a infantry during WWII. I don't mind that it can do some damage to HAV's. Also, name one rifle that can seriously damage a HAV. click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 5250	Posted - 2015.03.07 17:42:00 - [10] - Quote Hmmm so 63m range.....Is that Optimal, Effective, or Absolute? "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast www.biomassed.net

TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 884	Posted - 2015.03.07 18:15:00 - [11] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Sad how rifles and machine guns do damage to tanks. The AHMG will be the equivalent of strapping a bufors cannon to a infantry during WWII. I don't mind that it can do some damage to HAV's. Also, name one rifle that can seriously damage a HAV. Snipe the nuclear reactor. Found my favorite DJ - ATB
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 5203	Posted - 2015.03.07 18:15:00 - [12] - Quote Pretty sure it was implied to be optimal. Usually banned for being too awesome.
Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2520	Posted - 2015.03.07 18:17:00 - [13] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Sad how rifles and machine guns do damage to tanks. The AHMG will be the equivalent of strapping a bufors cannon to a infantry during WWII. I don't mind that it can do some damage to HAV's. Also, name one rifle that can seriously damage a HAV. Snipe the nuclear reactor. Woo! 50 damage! Home at Last <3
Silver Strike44 552	Posted - 2015.03.07 21:09:00 - [14] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Pretty sure it was implied to be optimal. I think it was effective. My YouTube Channel
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 5254	Posted - 2015.03.07 21:36:00 - [15] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Pretty sure it was implied to be optimal. Hmm even at Optimal, 63m is pretty short range for an AV weapon. I think we'll see it being pretty effective in close quarters but struggling to do much out in the open. "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast www.biomassed.net
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 1569	Posted - 2015.03.08 00:00:00 - [16] - Quote I think we will be seeing speed tanked heavies with AHMG's everywhere. Because, that's why.
Stormblade Green KnightKiller's inc. 38	Posted - 2015.03.08 01:30:00 - [17] - Quote Kuruld Sengar wrote: After the changes the assault hmg will have higher vehicle dps than the plasma cannon... I love how many resort to that lovely DPS. Anyway Asualt HMG will be viable light AV...... give me a FG any day. One might say... I'm very skilled... yet I'm his apprentice... So what does that say about my mentor?
Lorhak Gannarsein Nos Nothi 4397	Posted - 2015.03.08 03:29:00 - [18] - Quote It won't be useful against HAVs except as a deterrent - two or three AV-nade wielding AHMG users could do some serious damage, especially now that AV nades have been buffed - the grenades' short range isn't as much of an issue when you've the HMG to deal the finishing blow at a longer distance. Guys, we need to stop calling MU a 'matchmaker' when it's actually a 'teambuilder'. And I want to play FE:A now. Damn.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 3043	Posted - 2015.03.08 03:39:00 - [19] - Quote A damn shame. Nope. Confirming that pilot input is not, and never was, valued. - Breakin Stuff
DeadlyAztec11 Defenders of the Helghast Dream 7878	Posted - 2015.03.08 04:10:00 - [20] - Quote Stormblade Green wrote: Kuruld Sengar wrote: After the changes the assault hmg will have higher vehicle dps than the plasma cannon... I love how many resort to that lovely DPS. Anyway Asualt HMG will be viable light AV...... give me a FG any day. Still, isn't it a bit dissapointing that the Plasma Cannon won't be as good at AV as the HMG? Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.

Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 5211	Posted - 2015.03.08 06:39:00 - [21] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Stormblade Green wrote: Kuruld Sengar wrote: After the changes the assault hmg will have higher vehicle dps than the plasma cannon... I love how many resort to that lovely DPS. Anyway Asualt HMG will be viable light AV...... give me a FG any day. Still, isn't it a bit dissapointing that the Plasma Cannon won't be as good at AV as the HMG? Not all kills are decided by DPS. Usually banned for being too awesome.
HOLY PERFECTION UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E 58	Posted - 2015.03.08 06:46:00 - [22] - Quote Great another AV weapon *I WILL WIN... DESTINY*
Kain Spero Negative-Feedback. 4679	Posted - 2015.03.08 07:18:00 - [23] - Quote Bright Cloud wrote: Ive just seen that the damage efficency has beeing upped to 100%. So 3 proto AV nades and then mow down a tank with it? The av nades are required to get trough the 102HP shield recharge threshold. Im concerned that every heavy that uses a assault HMG will become a universal factor thats effective vs everything in the game. And yes the assault HMG has allmost compareable DPS like a large blaster. A longstanding issue that Dust kept flirting with is that if something is AV then it shouldn't be effective versus infantry. A lot of times this was to following the "disarm" mantra as a role of vehicle. By pulling out a vehicle and forcing infantry to switch to AV you diminish their power to deal with all other threats on the field. I for one am glad to see us slowly move away from a hardline approach. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
DRT 99 Commando Perkone Caldari State 206	Posted - 2015.03.08 10:37:00 - [24] - Quote first off, this thing is worse vs infantry than the regular HMG and will probably overheat long before it does anything significant to vehicles and to everyone QQing about rifles killing tanks... this isnt a rifle... its not even an HMG - its an Autocannon.
GENERAL FCF Sentinels of New Eden 74	Posted - 2015.03.08 16:33:00 - [25] - Quote Where is the thread that confirms this change to the Assault HMG?! Is it officially announced?
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 9771	Posted - 2015.03.08 16:40:00 - [26] - Quote GENERAL FCF wrote: Where is the thread that confirms this change to the Assault HMG?! Is it officially announced? Hotfix echo numbers thread in feedback section. I am also still laughing at the fact that he said small arms weapons do damage against vehicles....all 3% of it... *As long as 4/5 (80%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP*


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