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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:

RayRay James wrote:

Onesimus Tarsus wrote:

RayRay James wrote:

Onesimus Tarsus wrote:

Without proper matchmaking, this statement is meaningless.
Kdr matchmaking fixes that.

How many times does someone have to prove that KDR matchmaking will fix nothing before this argument finally dies?

Link? Because all I've ever heard is panicky histrionics and anger at the idea of stomp ending, all weapons auto-balancing, npe improving exponentially, and aur sales actually increasing while removing pub and fw matches in favor of one unified PC experience.
Answer, when I see it once, I'll find it more plausible.

The biggest argument against KDR matchmaking is this example:

A logi character with a .95 KDR can still have 50 million SP, and will be a much larger factor with his links, reps, needles,scans, hives grenades and weapons versus a 3.5 KDR assault who has 10 Mil SP and its Main/Sidearm, grenade, and one or two equipment slots.

That logi will probably end up killing the assault a few times, the assault will kill the logi repeatedly. The logi can keep his team alive, which to any real logi, is the ultimate goal.

That logi will probably be in the top 3 on the killboard too, with a 1/7 and 3k WP

1/7 is not .95. So how did the Logi get the .95?

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RayRay James Titans of Phoenix 987	Posted - 2015.03.06 15:57:00 - [31] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Without proper matchmaking, this statement is meaningless. Kdr matchmaking fixes that. How many times does someone have to prove that KDR matchmaking will fix nothing before this argument finally dies?
bolsh lee Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 1517	Posted - 2015.03.06 16:02:00 - [32] - Quote No, but seriously....
gekko k Grundstein Automation Property of Negative-Impact 66	Posted - 2015.03.06 16:02:00 - [33] - Quote In terms of normal distribution, that doesn't leave much room for outliers. What would be the lower 5% and upper 5%? Also, suck in what respect? Please, I need more info before I can be certain as to whether or not I agree with your statement.
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 1613	Posted - 2015.03.06 16:02:00 - [34] - Quote RayRay James wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Without proper matchmaking, this statement is meaningless. Kdr matchmaking fixes that. How many times does someone have to prove that KDR matchmaking will fix nothing before this argument finally dies? Probably only after onesimus quits the forums Hey Soldner, why are you such a cynic? Ever read the dust forums? You'll know why.
Greiv Rabbah M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command Lokun Listamenn 159	Posted - 2015.03.06 16:29:00 - [35] - Quote jane stalin wrote: Since humans are really overrated and 95% really suck we are doing better than average, So everyone that plays is entitled to swagger around the place with a smug look on their face, It is not like we needed the excuse. Thank you for your validation. I do that already. Better get back to it. Inb4 likefarming Sebiestor scout, MTAC pilot, Merc w/ a face
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3443	Posted - 2015.03.06 16:39:00 - [36] - Quote Did you suck when I killed you 3 times last night?
Balistyc Farshot The Exemplars RISE of LEGION 83	Posted - 2015.03.06 16:45:00 - [37] - Quote To bad this guy is hiding behind is alts I bet. Anyone know his mains. I would love to just PC role him out of all his districts. That is the only way to grudge someone currently. Heavy with a massive bullet hose called Lola (Burst HMG).
Michael Epic Horizons' Edge VP Gaming Alliance 554	Posted - 2015.03.06 16:46:00 - [38] - Quote You wish I sucked, bubba Michael Epic's "EPIC" Proposal to his girlfriend :D
Onesimus Tarsus is-a-Corporation 3109	Posted - 2015.03.06 17:10:00 - [39] - Quote RayRay James wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Without proper matchmaking, this statement is meaningless. Kdr matchmaking fixes that. How many times does someone have to prove that KDR matchmaking will fix nothing before this argument finally dies? Link? Because all I've ever heard is panicky histrionics and anger at the idea of stomp ending, all weapons auto-balancing, npe improving exponentially, and aur sales actually increasing while removing pub and fw matches in favor of one unified PC experience. Answer, when I see it once, I'll find it more plausible. KDR matchmaking fixes everything but the stupid purple Quafe stuff.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 3510	Posted - 2015.03.06 17:20:00 - [40] - Quote As much as KDR appeals for Ambush, I just don't like the idea due to Skirmish existing due to WP/D mattering so much more there due to Objectives. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire

Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 4810	Posted - 2015.03.06 17:26:00 - [41] - Quote Why do people complain about good corps being in squads? Then when people ask why this game is terrible solo those same people reply "make a squad".. Too many hyprocrites Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Ku Shala UNITED MERCINARY AND PILOTS ALLIANCE 1288	Posted - 2015.03.06 17:32:00 - [42] - Quote and if people knew what QQ actually was....................... Control the blueberries to win the war........ OP sucks 100% at making threads *-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä (CK-0 Specialist)* Caldari Loyalist Superior technology will privale.
RayRay James Titans of Phoenix 991	Posted - 2015.03.06 17:42:00 - [43] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: RayRay James wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Without proper matchmaking, this statement is meaningless. Kdr matchmaking fixes that. How many times does someone have to prove that KDR matchmaking will fix nothing before this argument finally dies? Link? Because all I've ever heard is panicky histrionics and anger at the idea of stomp ending, all weapons auto-balancing, npe improving exponentially, and aur sales actually increasing while removing pub and fw matches in favor of one unified PC experience. Answer, when I see it once, I'll find it more plausible. The biggest argument against KDR matchmaking is this example: A logi character with a .95 KDR can still have 50 million SP, and will be a much larger factor with his links, reps, needles,scans, hives grenades and weapons versus a 3.5 KDR assault who has 10 Mil SP and its Main/Sidearm, grenade, and one or two equipment slots. That logi will probably end up killing the assault a few times, the assault will kill the logi repeatedly. The logi can keep his team alive, which to any real logi, is the ultimate goal. That logi will probably be in the top 3 on the killboard too, with a 1/7 and 3k WP
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 1617	Posted - 2015.03.06 17:46:00 - [44] - Quote RayRay James wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: RayRay James wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Without proper matchmaking, this statement is meaningless. Kdr matchmaking fixes that. How many times does someone have to prove that KDR matchmaking will fix nothing before this argument finally dies? Link? Because all I've ever heard is panicky histrionics and anger at the idea of stomp ending, all weapons auto-balancing, npe improving exponentially, and aur sales actually increasing while removing pub and fw matches in favor of one unified PC experience. Answer, when I see it once, I'll find it more plausible. The biggest argument against KDR matchmaking is this example: A logi character with a .95 KDR can still have 50 million SP, and will be a much larger factor with his links, reps, needles,scans, hives grenades and weapons versus a 3.5 KDR assault who has 10 Mil SP and its Main/Sidearm, grenade, and one or two equipment slots. That logi will probably end up killing the assault a few times, the assault will kill the logi repeatedly. The logi can keep his team alive, which to any real logi, is the ultimate goal. That logi will probably be in the top 3 on the killboard too, with a 1/7 and 3k WP Or the hacking minja, going 4-8 with 2400wp because flipping points is his job. Or the av forge gun, 5-1 with 2150. Or god forbid a good fluid sniper, just effing up people's days at 23-4 1400 wp. Too many other variables other than kdr in this bastardized tactical shooter for kdr to work. Hey Soldner, why are you such a cynic? Ever read the dust forums? You'll know why.
Onesimus Tarsus is-a-Corporation 3109	Posted - 2015.03.06 18:00:00 - [45] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: As much as KDR appeals for Ambush, I just don't like the idea due to Skirmish existing due to WP/D mattering so much more there due to Objectives. No one kills or dies in skirmish? Trust me, it is still the largest factor. KDR matchmaking fixes everything but the stupid purple Quafe stuff.
BLUNT SMKR Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 173	Posted - 2015.03.06 18:02:00 - [46] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: go ahead. QQ. Is that why RND squads back out of matches against Opus Arcana? I've always assumed opus arcana was a NPC corp hmmm guess I was wrong lol. But don't think I've back out of match's unless its a certain map TeamWork>KDR losses only make the wins that much better
Thor Odinson42 Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 6169	Posted - 2015.03.06 18:05:00 - [47] - Quote I think it's higher than 90% to be honest.
Onesimus Tarsus is-a-Corporation 3109	Posted - 2015.03.06 18:32:00 - [48] - Quote RayRay James wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: RayRay James wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Without proper matchmaking, this statement is meaningless. Kdr matchmaking fixes that. How many times does someone have to prove that KDR matchmaking will fix nothing before this argument finally dies? Link? Because all I've ever heard is panicky histrionics and anger at the idea of stomp ending, all weapons auto-balancing, npe improving exponentially, and aur sales actually increasing while removing pub and fw matches in favor of one unified PC experience. Answer, when I see it once, I'll find it more plausible. The biggest argument against KDR matchmaking is this example: A logi character with a .95 KDR can still have 50 million SP, and will be a much larger factor with his links, reps, needles,scans, hives grenades and weapons versus a 3.5 KDR assault who has 10 Mil SP and its Main/Sidearm, grenade, and one or two equipment slots. That logi will probably end up killing the assault a few times, the assault will kill the logi repeatedly. The logi can keep his team alive, which to any real logi, is the ultimate goal. That logi will probably be in the top 3 on the killboard too, with a 1/7 and 3k WP 1/7 is not .95. So how did the Logi get the .95? KDR matchmaking fixes everything but the stupid purple Quafe stuff.
Proto Annihilator 16 Vandals 565	Posted - 2015.03.06 18:50:00 - [49] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: go ahead. QQ. QQ about what? You are literally bashing little kids and drunkards. I see a you pretending mediocre skills in a dead game matter. The hilarity is compounded by you thinking your opinion matters. At all. To anyone. Even if you could rationalize that you are in the elite 10% noone would care. You have horribly over estimated your pathetic abilities. Go hang in the war room where this stuff is important. Or were you laughed out of there too?
RayRay James Titans of Phoenix 991	Posted - 2015.03.06 18:56:00 - [50] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: RayRay James wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: RayRay James wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Without proper matchmaking, this statement is meaningless. Kdr matchmaking fixes that. How many times does someone have to prove that KDR matchmaking will fix nothing before this argument finally dies? Link? Because all I've ever heard is panicky histrionics and anger at the idea of stomp ending, all weapons auto-balancing, npe improving exponentially, and aur sales actually increasing while removing pub and fw matches in favor of one unified PC experience. Answer, when I see it once, I'll find it more plausible. The biggest argument against KDR matchmaking is this example: A logi character with a .95 KDR can still have 50 million SP, and will be a much larger factor with his links, reps, needles,scans, hives grenades and weapons versus a 3.5 KDR assault who has 10 Mil SP and its Main/Sidearm, grenade, and one or two equipment slots. That logi will probably end up killing the assault a few times, the assault will kill the logi repeatedly. The logi can keep his team alive, which to any real logi, is the ultimate goal. That logi will probably be in the top 3 on the killboard too, with a 1/7 and 3k WP 1/7 is not .95. So how did the Logi get the .95? Well, considering that example is me, I'll tell you... I suck at shooting Those were supposed to represent lifetime KDR not match KDR. Yes, My 50 Mil + SP, 2 year + character has a .95 KDR

Proto Annihilator 16 Vandals 565	Posted - 2015.03.06 18:58:00 - [51] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Why do people complain about good corps being in squads? Then when people ask why this game is terrible solo those same people reply "make a squad".. Too many hyprocrites Take a step back. Without your hypocrisy spin you might have something. I have nothing against squads. I recommend them to everyone. The 90% the op is bitching about shouldn't encounter the 10% he claims to be part of. If you made the Bigs, etc are you doing playing with minors? Scrubs.
Onesimus Tarsus is-a-Corporation 3109	Posted - 2015.03.06 20:03:00 - [52] - Quote Quote: Well, considering that example is me, I'll tell you... I suck at shooting Those were supposed to represent lifetime KDR not match KDR. Yes, My 50 Mil + SP, 2 year + character has a .95 KDR So... you consistently go 1/7 and have a .95 KDR. Gotcha. KDR matchmaking fixes everything but the stupid purple Quafe stuff.
TerranKnight87 Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 227	Posted - 2015.03.06 20:08:00 - [53] - Quote Part of the 0.01% here. 99.99% of you suck. "Tech you're in a max suit, you have 15 mins to unfk yourself or you can fk off." - Stumpycat C/O of Goon Brigade.
Proto Annihilator 16 Vandals 568	Posted - 2015.03.06 21:04:00 - [54] - Quote TerranKnight87 wrote: Part of the 0.01% here. 99.99% of you suck. My MAG stats were all better than 99.99% of all players.
Thor Odinson42 Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 6174	Posted - 2015.03.06 21:09:00 - [55] - Quote One time I beat 22 RND guys using nothing but a flux grenade in a PC.
noob cavman Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 2162	Posted - 2015.03.06 21:14:00 - [56] - Quote You wot mate!? Il shank you I will I will! Fecking feck feckery fecked fecker! I want to be a caveman! Ccp: LEGION Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Full steam ahead into the enemies booty yarrr.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 7574	Posted - 2015.03.06 21:25:00 - [57] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: go ahead. QQ. I don't get into pointless arguments with people who swallow. AV
BLUNT SMKR Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 175	Posted - 2015.03.06 21:26:00 - [58] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: One time I beat 22 RND guys using nothing but a flux grenade in a PC. I could see that everyone stand by a RE n chuck a flux in the middle TeamWork>KDR losses only make the wins that much better
Stormblade Green KnightKiller's inc. 38	Posted - 2015.03.06 21:41:00 - [59] - Quote BLOOD Ruler wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: go ahead. QQ. 90% sucks because they QQ instead of adapt and say,"Their is no counter" What a dumb childish response. So true One might say... I'm very skilled... yet I'm his apprentice... So what does that say about my mentor?
Crimson Moon V 352	Posted - 2015.03.06 21:49:00 - [60] - Quote BLUNT SMKR wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: go ahead. QQ. Is that why RND squads back out of matches against Opus Arcana? I've always assumed opus arcana was a NPC corp hmmm guess I was wrong lol. But don't think I've back out of match's unless its a certain map Let how you play speak for you, not what you say.-Naberuis_x



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