DUST Search - Things I have noticed about Amarr Commandos and Assaults.

Sir Dukey wrote:

Sgt Kirk wrote:

It may not be the same as the Gallente commando because of the heat buildup bonus that the Amarr assault gets but when I compare my Gallente assault to commando o think of it like this.

Sure, I can have three damage mods to get slightly more than a commando. But do I want to use that much Pg and CPU to gimp my suit in other areas? Nah. Two damage mods are fine with me.

Can I carry a plasma cannon with an assault? Sure can, but that would make me a one trick pony and prone to die if I can't kill them in the first shot. Plus that reload bonus on the Commando is fantastic when dealing with the plasma cannon.

Do I have enough armor and shields to be effective? Yeah, so ill just work on speed and or regeneration.

That last point is just a personal opinion though, I don't see the need to stack more armor on this suit when I can have 300 shields and 500 armor with 24 reps per second while running faster than a logistics suit.

So in short, you get three damage mods built in
And you don't have to gimp yourself being stuck only with a laser rifle for long range wombat.

But that heatbuild up is a while card in my comparison...

That's the Gallante commando bro, the Amarr is much different. The heat reduction bonus on Assault is much better than a 10% damage increase.

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Sir Dukey G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1828	Posted - 2015.02.28 18:14:00 - [1] - Quote The ScR and the Lazer rifle is better on Assault than commando. Not only does Assault have 3 highs for 3 damage mods, the Assault has heat reduction bonuses which are the blood line of Laser weaponry. Basically, the Amarr Commando is just a crappy Amarr Assault. Acquire Currency, Disregard Female Canis lupus familiaris
postapo wastelander Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 966	Posted - 2015.02.28 18:16:00 - [2] - Quote Commandos are heavier versions of assault. Thats isnt new thing "Sebiestor Hetzer"
CHET CHEWS Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 29	Posted - 2015.02.28 18:16:00 - [3] - Quote True, but amarr comando can carry two light weapons, in case you didnt notice.(Saying it non offensive) All hail munson! :3
Sir Dukey G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1828	Posted - 2015.02.28 18:17:00 - [4] - Quote postapo wastelander wrote: Commandos are heavier versions of assault. Thats isnt new thing You mean sh*tty assaults? Acquire Currency, Disregard Female Canis lupus familiaris
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 6404	Posted - 2015.02.28 18:17:00 - [5] - Quote But can you reload at the speed of light?
Sir Dukey G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1828	Posted - 2015.02.28 18:18:00 - [6] - Quote CHET CHEWS wrote: True, but amarr comando can carry two light weapons, in case you didnt notice.(Saying it non offensive) But if you think about it, both ScR and Laser rifle are awful without heat reduction. Acquire Currency, Disregard Female Canis lupus familiaris
Sir Dukey G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1828	Posted - 2015.02.28 18:20:00 - [7] - Quote Joel II X wrote: But can you reload at the speed of light? You would never get a chance to reload your weapon on an Amarr commando- you will over heat and thus you will die. Acquire Currency, Disregard Female Canis lupus familiaris
postapo wastelander Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 966	Posted - 2015.02.28 18:20:00 - [8] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: postapo wastelander wrote: Commandos are heavier versions of assault. Thats isnt new thing You mean shtty assaults? I mean commando is more likely just heavy version of assault with two primarys. "Sebiestor Hetzer*"
CHET CHEWS Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 29	Posted - 2015.02.28 18:20:00 - [9] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: CHET CHEWS wrote: True, but amarr comando can carry two light weapons, in case you didnt notice.(Saying it non offensive) But if you think about it, both ScR and Laser rifle are awful without heat reduction. Thats how they balance the commandos All hail munson! :3
Sir Dukey G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1828	Posted - 2015.02.28 18:21:00 - [10] - Quote CHET CHEWS wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: CHET CHEWS wrote: True, but amarr comando can carry two light weapons, in case you didnt notice.(Saying it non offensive) But if you think about it, both ScR and Laser rifle are awful without heat reduction. Thats how they balance the commandos The Amarr Commando bonus should be the same as the Assaults. Acquire Currency, Disregard Female Canis lupus familiaris

Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 9705	Posted - 2015.02.28 18:22:00 - [11] - Quote It may not be the same as the Gallente commando because of the heat buildup bonus that the Amarr assault gets but when I compare my Gallente assault to commando o think of it like this. Sure, I can have three damage mods to get slightly more than a commando. But do I want to use that much Pg and CPU to gimp my suit in other areas? Nah. Two damage mods are fine with me. Can I carry a plasma cannon with an assault? Sure can, but that would make me a one trick pony and prone to die if I can't kill them in the first shot. Plus that reload bonus on the Commando is fantastic when dealing with the plasma cannon. Do I have enough armor and shields to be effective? Yeah, so ill just work on speed and or regeneration. That last point is just a personal opinion though, I don't see the need to stack more armor on this suit when I can have 300 shields and 500 armor with 24 reps per second while running faster than a logistics suit. So in short, you get three damage mods built in And you don't have to gimp yourself being stuck only with a laser rifle for long range wombat. But that heatbuild up is a while card in my comparison... *As long as 4/5 (80%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP*
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property 15817	Posted - 2015.02.28 18:23:00 - [12] - Quote Joel II X wrote: But can you reload at the speed of light? With the animation canceling technique anyone can. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
CHET CHEWS Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 29	Posted - 2015.02.28 18:23:00 - [13] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: CHET CHEWS wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: CHET CHEWS wrote: True, but amarr comando can carry two light weapons, in case you didnt notice.(Saying it non offensive) But if you think about it, both ScR and Laser rifle are awful without heat reduction. Thats how they balance the commandos The Amarr Commando bonus should be the same as the Assaults. No cause in that case the Min mando, and Gallente comando are useless but thats just my point of view All hail munson! :3
Sir Dukey G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1828	Posted - 2015.02.28 18:24:00 - [14] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: It may not be the same as the Gallente commando because of the heat buildup bonus that the Amarr assault gets but when I compare my Gallente assault to commando o think of it like this. Sure, I can have three damage mods to get slightly more than a commando. But do I want to use that much Pg and CPU to gimp my suit in other areas? Nah. Two damage mods are fine with me. Can I carry a plasma cannon with an assault? Sure can, but that would make me a one trick pony and prone to die if I can't kill them in the first shot. Plus that reload bonus on the Commando is fantastic when dealing with the plasma cannon. Do I have enough armor and shields to be effective? Yeah, so ill just work on speed and or regeneration. That last point is just a personal opinion though, I don't see the need to stack more armor on this suit when I can have 300 shields and 500 armor with 24 reps per second while running faster than a logistics suit. So in short, you get three damage mods built in And you don't have to gimp yourself being stuck only with a laser rifle for long range wombat. But that heatbuild up is a while card in my comparison... That's the Gallante commando bro, the Amarr is much different. The heat reduction bonus on Assault is much better than a 10% damage increase. Acquire Currency, Disregard Female Canis lupus familiaris
Proto Annihilator 16 Vandals 453	Posted - 2015.02.28 18:24:00 - [15] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: CHET CHEWS wrote: True, but amarr comando can carry two light weapons, in case you didnt notice.(Saying it non offensive) But if you think about it, both ScR and Laser rifle are awful without heat reduction. That is not quite true. They require heat management, yes. The commandos benefit is there really is no cooldown to worry about. Swap to your other weapon and keep firing. When it is hot swap back. There is only 3 laser type weapons. Mix and match for the best results.
CHET CHEWS Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 29	Posted - 2015.02.28 18:25:00 - [16] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: It may not be the same as the Gallente commando because of the heat buildup bonus that the Amarr assault gets but when I compare my Gallente assault to commando o think of it like this. Sure, I can have three damage mods to get slightly more than a commando. But do I want to use that much Pg and CPU to gimp my suit in other areas? Nah. Two damage mods are fine with me. Can I carry a plasma cannon with an assault? Sure can, but that would make me a one trick pony and prone to die if I can't kill them in the first shot. Plus that reload bonus on the Commando is fantastic when dealing with the plasma cannon. Do I have enough armor and shields to be effective? Yeah, so ill just work on speed and or regeneration. That last point is just a personal opinion though, I don't see the need to stack more armor on this suit when I can have 300 shields and 500 armor with 24 reps per second while running faster than a logistics suit. So in short, you get three damage mods built in And you don't have to gimp yourself being stuck only with a laser rifle for long range wombat. But that heatbuild up is a while card in my comparison... That's the Gallante commando bro, the Amarr is much different. The heat reduction bonus on Assault is much better than a 10% damage increase. Im comparing, But my point is that it would be unfair or unbalanced for the other comandos All hail munson! :3
Sir Dukey G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1828	Posted - 2015.02.28 18:26:00 - [17] - Quote CHET CHEWS wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: CHET CHEWS wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: CHET CHEWS wrote: True, but amarr comando can carry two light weapons, in case you didnt notice.(Saying it non offensive) But if you think about it, both ScR and Laser rifle are awful without heat reduction. Thats how they balance the commandos The Amarr Commando bonus should be the same as the Assaults. No cause in that case the Min mando, and Gallente comando are useless but thats just my point of view Just the Amarr Commando- not the others. Amarr Commando would benefit a lot from the heat reduction than it does from 10% damage. Acquire Currency, Disregard Female Canis lupus familiaris
Sir Dukey G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1828	Posted - 2015.02.28 18:27:00 - [18] - Quote Proto Annihilator wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: CHET CHEWS wrote: True, but amarr comando can carry two light weapons, in case you didnt notice.(Saying it non offensive) But if you think about it, both ScR and Laser rifle are awful without heat reduction. That is not quite true. They require heat management, yes. The commandos benefit is there really is no cooldown to worry about. Swap to your other weapon and keep firing. When it is hot swap back. There is only 3 laser type weapons. Mix and match for the best results. no wonder Amarr commandos are so popular!! That's why I see a proto Amarr Commando only in my dreams. Acquire Currency, Disregard Female Canis lupus familiaris
CHET CHEWS Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 29	Posted - 2015.02.28 18:29:00 - [19] - Quote I know the amarr comando isnt that great but if you give the amarr comando that bonus then whats the point of the asssault? All hail munson! :3
Proto Annihilator 16 Vandals 453	Posted - 2015.02.28 18:30:00 - [20] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Proto Annihilator wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: CHET CHEWS wrote: True, but amarr comando can carry two light weapons, in case you didnt notice.(Saying it non offensive) But if you think about it, both ScR and Laser rifle are awful without heat reduction. That is not quite true. They require heat management, yes. The commandos benefit is there really is no cooldown to worry about. Swap to your other weapon and keep firing. When it is hot swap back. There is only 3 laser type weapons. Mix and match for the best results. no wonder Amarr commandos are so popular!! That's why I see a proto Amarr Commando only in my dreams. Skill is a factor. You should dream up some of that.

CHET CHEWS Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 30	Posted - 2015.02.28 18:32:00 - [21] - Quote Proto Annihilator wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Proto Annihilator wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: CHET CHEWS wrote: True, but amarr comando can carry two light weapons, in case you didnt notice.(Saying it non offensive) But if you think about it, both ScR and Laser rifle are awful without heat reduction. That is not quite true. They require heat management, yes. The commandos benefit is there really is no cooldown to worry about. Swap to your other weapon and keep firing. When it is hot swap back. There is only 3 laser type weapons. Mix and match for the best results. no wonder Amarr commandos are so popular!! That's why I see a proto Amarr Commando only in my dreams. Skill is a factor. You should dream up some of that. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh BURN! All hail munson! :3
Onesimus Tarsus is-a-Corporation 3079	Posted - 2015.02.28 18:33:00 - [22] - Quote The Amarr Scout bonus? Die beautiful. KDR matchmaking fixes everything but the stupid purple Quafe stuff.
Izlare Lenix Pub Stars 1347	Posted - 2015.02.28 18:35:00 - [23] - Quote Dual viziam amarr commando is pretty pimp. Never overheat. The only real truth in history is that it was bloody.
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 6406	Posted - 2015.02.28 19:18:00 - [24] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Joel II X wrote: But can you reload at the speed of light? You would never get a chance to reload your weapon on an Amarr commando- you will over heat and thus you will die. If that is what you believe, then you are a fool.
Proto Annihilator 16 Vandals 459	Posted - 2015.02.28 20:32:00 - [25] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: The Amarr Scout bonus? Die beautiful. Die young.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 10006	Posted - 2015.02.28 20:36:00 - [26] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: The ScR and the Lazer rifle is better on Assault than commando. Not only does Assault have 3 highs for 3 damage mods, the Assault has heat reduction bonuses which are the blood line of Laser weaponry. Basically, the Amarr Commando is just a crappy Amarr Assault. It's the Laser rifle, not Lazer rifle. Fun Fact: Laser is actually an acronym. It stands for Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation. Born Deteis Caldari. Rejected by my Kinsman. Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe. Nobody messes with my family
Sir Dukey G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1833	Posted - 2015.03.01 03:22:00 - [27] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: The ScR and the Lazer rifle is better on Assault than commando. Not only does Assault have 3 highs for 3 damage mods, the Assault has heat reduction bonuses which are the blood line of Laser weaponry. Basically, the Amarr Commando is just a crappy Amarr Assault. It's the Laser rifle, not Lazer rifle. Fun Fact: Laser is actually an acronym. It stands for Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation. I hate English. Spelling is a all Fed up. Colonel is pronounced kernel. laser (Lay-sir) is pronounced lazer. Acquire Currency, Disregard Female Canis lupus familiaris
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 36	Posted - 2015.03.01 14:27:00 - [28] - Quote I've been playing with the Amarr dropsuits for as long as I can remember and all I can say is that the Amarr commando is a high risk high reward kind of suit, in my opinion of course. Since I use laser weapons almost always,I'm already used to heat build up,often stopping before the weapon overheats without looking at the hud. As the commando, I dish out damage that can occasionally surprises myself. Just be patient with it,its a really fun suit to use~ How many amarr does it take to change a light bulb? none. The minmatar do it for them
maluble Art.of.Death VP Gaming Alliance 214	Posted - 2015.03.01 16:58:00 - [29] - Quote If used by the right player on the right map all 4 commandos have excellent point defense capabilities. Unfortunately most commandos i see try to use them like an assault, which isn't ineffective but not ideal.
Oceltot Mortalis 73	Posted - 2015.03.15 19:26:00 - [30] - Quote Commando Balance thread is here if you would like to contribute. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2679500#post2679500 Aspiring Forum Warrior. Commando Advocate / Gallente Advocate / Legion Advocate / Avocado Advocate



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