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          JONAHBENHUR 
          WarRavens
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        Posted - 2015.02.27 08:59:00 -
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          CCP you really need to straighten this out the amarr heavy never should have been given the 4 low slots. They ammar have better stam/stam recharge also a higher base hp also better shield and recharge give the gallente back the 4th low slot. With the change to combat rifles and the nerf to rails the gal is about useless. What is the point of having two highs on a gal heavy that has terrible shield time and 2 damage mods is a poor choice for sure. Simple put the Caldari excel at shields and the Gallente at Armor and thats how it should be.
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          Breakin Stuff 
          Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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          JONAHBENHUR wrote:CCP you really need to straighten this out the amarr heavy never should have been given the 4 low slots. They ammar have better stam/stam recharge also a higher base hp also better shield and recharge give the gallente back the 4th low slot. With the change to combat rifles and the nerf to rails the gal is about useless. What is the point of having two highs on a gal heavy that has terrible shield time and 2 damage mods is a poor choice for sure. Simple put the Caldari excel at shields and the Gallente at Armor and thats how it should be.   Hi. You're incorrect.
  Thanks for the amusing post!
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          JONAHBENHUR 
          WarRavens
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          Breakin Stuff wrote:JONAHBENHUR wrote:CCP you really need to straighten this out the amarr heavy never should have been given the 4 low slots. They ammar have better stam/stam recharge also a higher base hp also better shield and recharge give the gallente back the 4th low slot. With the change to combat rifles and the nerf to rails the gal is about useless. What is the point of having two highs on a gal heavy that has terrible shield time and 2 damage mods is a poor choice for sure. Simple put the Caldari excel at shields and the Gallente at Armor and thats how it should be.  Hi. You're incorrect. Thanks for the amusing post!   would you care to elaborate ?
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          VAHZZ 
          Haven's Keep
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          I laughed my ass off, literally, it couldn't take anymore of this crap and just left. 
 
  Also, learn to English and use the enter key. 
  Now, you are wrong, the Amarr is the kings of armor, why on earth would you take away from that? What harm is those 4 slots causing? Nothing. Sure it might need some highs but it shouldn't take away from it's lows. 
  Us Gallente are mixed, we duel tank our heavies and yes damage mods, do you even DUST bruh? Have you ever used a Kubo Gallente Commando? Stop spouting out dribble and learn your crap, cause my ass can't take it.
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          JONAHBENHUR 
          WarRavens
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        Posted - 2015.02.27 10:10:00 -
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          really wish more than 2% of the community would get on here
 "To be a man you must have honor, "HONOR AND A PENIS !!" -shinoske noharu 
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          True Adamance 
          Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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          VAHZZ wrote:I laughed my ass off, literally, it couldn't take anymore of this crap and just left. 
 
  Also, learn to English and use the enter key. 
  Now, you are wrong, the Amarr is the kings of armor, why on earth would you take away from that? What harm is those 4 slots causing? Nothing. Sure it might need some highs but it shouldn't take away from it's lows. 
  Us Gallente are mixed, we duel tank our heavies and yes damage mods, do you even DUST bruh? Have you ever used a Kubo Gallente Commando? Stop spouting out dribble and learn your crap, cause my ass can't take it.  
 
  You don't have to....you just can to a better extent. Neither the Gallente or the Amarr are kings of anything they just armour tank but with different focuses.....this whole best at X is a fallacy they just achieve the same goal in different manners.
 
 
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          Breakin Stuff 
          Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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          True Adamance wrote:VAHZZ wrote:I laughed my ass off, literally, it couldn't take anymore of this crap and just left. 
 
  Also, learn to English and use the enter key. 
  Now, you are wrong, the Amarr is the kings of armor, why on earth would you take away from that? What harm is those 4 slots causing? Nothing. Sure it might need some highs but it shouldn't take away from it's lows. 
  Us Gallente are mixed, we duel tank our heavies and yes damage mods, do you even DUST bruh? Have you ever used a Kubo Gallente Commando? Stop spouting out dribble and learn your crap, cause my ass can't take it.  You don't have to....you just can to a better extent. Neither the Gallente or the Amarr are kings of anything they just armour tank but with different focuses.....this whole best at X is a fallacy they just achieve the same goal in different manners.   I was feeling like being snide but pretty much this. The galsent does fine unless you play the game of "run right at the AmSent."
 
 
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          JONAHBENHUR 
          WarRavens
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        Posted - 2015.02.27 11:05:00 -
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          i wish people who played the game would get on here and make some valid points in this topic :( VAHZZ= scrub  Haven's Keep 2015-02-25 07:21 - Now (0y 2d) Chatelain Rapid Response 2013-11-22 19:57 - 2015-02-25 07:21 (1y 95d) The dyst0pian Corporation 2013-11-05 18:51 - 2013-11-22 19:57 (0y 17d) Villore Sec Ops 2013-10-12 03:48 - 2013-11-05 18:51 (0y 24d)  3 kills 3216 lifetime warpoints Breakin stuff known booster and terrible at it  Goonfeet 2015-02-03 17:44 - Now (0y 24d) Internal Error. 2015-01-05 00:59 - 2015-02-03 17:44 (0y 29d) GoonFeet 2013-05-04 21:21 - 2015-01-05 00:59 (1y 246d) Immobile Infantry 2013-01-20 12:01 - 2013-05-04 21:21 (0y 104d) Algintal Core 2013-01-10 07:55 - 2013-01-20 12:01 (0y 10d)  No Character/Corp/Alliance by that name could be found! Please search again with the search box at the top you opinion means nothing
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          H0riz0n Unlimit 
          Dead Man's Game
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        Posted - 2015.02.27 11:23:00 -
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          I like double dam mode gal heavy, i will never switch it back to 1/4 it s the amarr heavy that has too many Hp, the solution is decrease that amount as if you have an Ak.0 back to 2/3 it will have same Hp of a gallente but 2 dam mode instead than 1 and with nowadays overheat amarr will be more OP than now
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          Powerh8er 
          Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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        Posted - 2015.02.27 11:27:00 -
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          Its not like only 2 percent of the playerbase visit the forums, but 90 percent of the people posting anything here are either drunk or insane.  Most likely both.
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          Michael-J-Fox Richards 
          The Scope Gallente Federation
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        Posted - 2015.02.27 11:29:00 -
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          i agree wholeheartedly with mr benhur and found the replies he got to be profoundly stupid, gallente ARE the armor guys
 I got that john elway arm to proficiency level 5. 
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          H0riz0n Unlimit 
          Dead Man's Game
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          Powerh8er wrote:Its not like only 2 percent of the playerbase visit the forums, but 90 percent of the people posting anything here are either drunk or insane.  Most likely both.   That 90% have also amarr sentinel and min assault at least at lvl 2
 "Doc DDD is better than you" cit. Extacy cravings; "You are only lucky" cit. Takashiro kashuken. Tanker since chromosome 
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          JONAHBENHUR 
          WarRavens
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        Posted - 2015.02.27 11:35:00 -
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          now we are getting some people actually talking about the topic !! any more feedback would be great
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          H0riz0n Unlimit 
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          Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote:i agree wholeheartedly with mr benhur and found the replies he got to be profoundly stupid, gallente ARE the armor guys   Not totally true, gallente are based on repairs, i can remind old gal logi bonus and actually gallente assault one, i actually use an ADV gal sentinel with a repair rate of 23 per second. Strafe is the only way to kill ak.0 LAV or at least bring a forgegun lol
 "Doc DDD is better than you" cit. Extacy cravings; "You are only lucky" cit. Takashiro kashuken. Tanker since chromosome 
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          PLAYSTTION 
          Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION
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          JONAHBENHUR wrote:CCP you really need to straighten this out the amarr heavy never should have been given the 4 low slots. They ammar have better stam/stam recharge also a higher base hp also better shield and recharge give the gallente back the 4th low slot. With the change to combat rifles and the nerf to rails the gal is about useless. What is the point of having two highs on a gal heavy that has terrible shield time and 2 damage mods is a poor choice for sure. Simple put the Caldari excel at shields and the Gallente at Armor and thats how it should be.   The armour max is 1250 and gallente can't reach that anymore. Instead they have 100hp less when stacking plates. When you run a Gal sent properly with reps its pretty balanced.
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          Alex-ZX 
          Valor Coalition Red Whines.
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          JONAHBENHUR wrote:CCP you really need to straighten this out the amarr heavy never should have been given the 4 low slots. They ammar have better stam/stam recharge also a higher base hp also better shield and recharge give the gallente back the 4th low slot. With the change to combat rifles and the nerf to rails the gal is about useless. What is the point of having two highs on a gal heavy that has terrible shield time and 2 damage mods is a poor choice for sure. Simple put the Caldari excel at shields and the Gallente at Armor and thats how it should be.  
  It is better if they change the Amarr heavy to 2/3 in that way ppl just would keep their heavies in the way they are, if not I'm sure that many would buy respecs to get the gall heavy, keeping both at 2/3 will quit the stupid and nooby armor stacking. Or at least that would be better.
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Luis' modified VC-107 CR 
Alex's modified VC-107 SMG* Owner of this beasts 
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          Breakin Stuff 
          Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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        Posted - 2015.02.27 15:30:00 -
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          I'm a known booster? Antagonist I'll give you. But booster?
  That would require that I care about K/D.
  But you get points for tickling my funny bone!
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          abdullah muzaffar 
          G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
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          But seriously, theres no denying the fact that both the amarr heavy and amarr assault are the most op suits in the game. Best tank(resistance for heavy), highest dps. | 
      
      
      
          
          Xocoyol Zaraoul 
          Superior Genetics
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          Don't you dare take away my dual complex heavy weapon damage mods!
  I've won more firefights then I care to count due to that, and the GalSent is substantially more durable against enemy vehicle fire then the CalSent is, especially against those pesky Small Rails.
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Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire 
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          Nocturnal Soul 
          Ametat Security Amarr Empire
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          abdullah muzaffar wrote:But seriously, theres no denying the fact that both the amarr heavy and amarr assault are the most op suits in the game. Best tank(resistance for heavy), highest dps.   The assault is definitely not the best that title belongs to Mk.0's sure versatility.
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          Mortishai Belmont 
          G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance
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          I actually have both heavies proto, they both work just fine if you know how to use them.
  But I'm not gonna tell ya when I run on them, especially my Gal heavy, I drop people like flies in it ;D
 G.L.O.R.Y Soldier, 
I'm that Amarr heavy you warn your team about <3 
-Heavy/Logi/Assault/Scout- 
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          Joel II X 
          Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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        Posted - 2015.02.27 16:50:00 -
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          The Gallente excel at armor REPAIR (and using drones, but...), not armor buffing. 
  I like the fact that the suits have different layouts. If only the same were to happen to the scout and Assault, but they have too many slots for that too happen. | 
      
      
      
          
          4lbert Wesker 
          King and Queens
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          VAHZZ wrote:Also, learn to English and use the enter key.   
 
  You know,not everyone are from McMurica or Great BriTEAn.There are many people who really don't want speak english because of wannabe grammar ***** like you :)
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          VAHZZ 
          Haven's Keep
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          JONAHBENHUR wrote:i wish people who played the game would get on here and make some valid points in this topic :( VAHZZ= scrub  Haven's Keep 2015-02-25 07:21 - Now (0y 2d) Chatelain Rapid Response 2013-11-22 19:57 - 2015-02-25 07:21 (1y 95d) The dyst0pian Corporation 2013-11-05 18:51 - 2013-11-22 19:57 (0y 17d) Villore Sec Ops 2013-10-12 03:48 - 2013-11-05 18:51 (0y 24d)  3 kills 3216 lifetime warpoints Breakin stuff known booster and terrible at it  Goonfeet 2015-02-03 17:44 - Now (0y 24d) Internal Error. 2015-01-05 00:59 - 2015-02-03 17:44 (0y 29d) GoonFeet 2013-05-04 21:21 - 2015-01-05 00:59 (1y 246d) Immobile Infantry 2013-01-20 12:01 - 2013-05-04 21:21 (0y 104d) Algintal Core 2013-01-10 07:55 - 2013-01-20 12:01 (0y 10d)  No Character/Corp/Alliance by that name could be found! Please search again with the search box at the top you opinion means nothing   
  Obviously my opinion means something if you just searched corp history, which I don't get how that is anyway relatable to the discussion. And how am I a scrub?
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          VAHZZ 
          Haven's Keep
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          4lbert Wesker wrote:VAHZZ wrote:Also, learn to English and use the enter key.   You know,not everyone are from McMurica or Great BriTEAn.There are many people who really don't want speak english because of wannabe grammar ***** like you :)   
  Well, if they aren't from McMurica or the lovely isle of tea, English is not their native tongue, and don't quite speak it well, then they should go to the forum in their language, because you know - DUST has those. And I'm not a GN, I simply put, speak better, and use the dam enter key so I dont have to look at a stupid wall of text.
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          abdullah muzaffar 
          G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
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          Nocturnal Soul wrote:abdullah muzaffar wrote:But seriously, theres no denying the fact that both the amarr heavy and amarr assault are the most op suits in the game. Best tank(resistance for heavy), highest dps.  The assault is definitely not the best that title belongs to Mk.0's sure versatility.   Doesnt change the fact that its the most spammed suit in bush, also am vs min, am wins 9/10 | 
      
      
      
          
          Nocturnal Soul 
          Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
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        Posted - 2015.02.27 21:13:00 -
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          abdullah muzaffar wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:abdullah muzaffar wrote:But seriously, theres no denying the fact that both the amarr heavy and amarr assault are the most op suits in the game. Best tank(resistance for heavy), highest dps.  The assault is definitely not the best that title belongs to Mk.0's sure versatility.  Doesnt change the fact that its the most spammed suit in bush, also am vs min, am wins 9/10   I rarely find another Amarr assault in any game mode besides FW so your word against mine
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LASERS BTCH!!!!!! 
The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby! 
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          True Adamance 
          Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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          Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote:i agree wholeheartedly with mr benhur and found the replies he got to be profoundly stupid, gallente ARE the armor guys  
  No they are One of Two Armour Tanking Races in New Eden and of those two they are the one that tends to focus specifically on
  - Armour Repair Bonuses - Drone Bonuses - Hybrid Turret Bonuses
  Amongst other lesser used bonus types. 
  The Amarr on the other hand are ALSO a pure armour tanking race who focus primarily on armour buffer but in a different manner and get achieve this through
  - Armour Resistance Bonuses - Energy Weapons Bonuses and to a lesser extent - Drone and Energy Neut/Vamp bonuses
  Both armour tank no two ways about it and traditionally taking a look at how CCP has developed the Gallente ships and what not...they tend to have either on par or one less low slot for armour tanking but happen to often receive and additional medium slot to compensate.
  That's actually pretty useful EVE side but in Dust we simply don't have a great deal of high slot utility modules worth using which is a shame.
  So in response.... no they are not THE ARMOUR guys. They are one race that can armour tank proficiently and have a specific and vested interest in armour repair values to achieve this. Moreover the issue still stems that even if the Gallente did get the 1/4 set up and the Amarr got the 2/3 all Gallente sents would do is stack plates no two ways about it and functionally just become the Amarr Sentinel with a green skin.
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          Nocturnal Soul 
          Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
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          And the nominal head of the Amarr Dust side has blessed us with knowledge once more.
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LASERS BTCH!!!!!! 
The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby! 
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          Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui 
          Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
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          Both have their strong suits and the fact that Amarr gives up extra punch for more padding is pretty much how most of their suits are set up .
  Gal being the rep king can add extra punch and also more reps while having a decent amount of tank so it's alright in my eyes .
  Bonuses make the suits stand out and was part of the reason that I tried to get the Cal Sent bonus changed back in the day but that didn't help .
  It has one low slot and the least amount of tank but people keep talking about the depleted charge time like shields are in a great spot .
  I believed that it needed a projectile damage bonus at least on the armor / shields or more armor passives because it has the least which I think is .5 but I'm not sure .
  I like all heavies , they serve their purposes .
  I would like the Logistic suits to have better slot progression development from STD to PRO where at PRO you can sometimes have 4 to 5 additional slots from ADV to PRO and some of the suits like CAL ADV logi is just thrown off by it's poor slot configuration coupled with the bonus .
  I can feel what your saying though OP .
  I thought the same until I tried all the heavies . I now look more at the positives then the opposite now and try to wonder what could be done to make them better instead of focusing on the short comings .
 Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed . 
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