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Lorhak Gannarsein Nos Nothi 4331	Posted - 2015.02.24 13:47:00 - [1] - Quote reckoned without callogi and twelve nanohives. they thought they nerfed it they thought it was gone they thought they could finally breathe things-that-were-not-shrapnel but out of the depths... it rises. prepare... for the return... of SON OF LOCUS GRENADE SPAM 2: THE SEQUEL I mean, really. What's the point in increasing nanohive restock costs if I can carry so many of them? The same for reducing carry capacity. I don't actually know whether my CalLogi bonus is relevant here; I don't even remember what it is (specifically, whether or not it applies to nanite cluster number rather than just restock rate) which means Min and GalLogis would be even worse (excepting the shield regen you can get on a CalLogi, I guess - useful when you're only out of cover for seconds). I remembered the other day that you can lob grenades right onto the point on Gallente Research Facility Domination from outside up on a ledge, and I must have thrown over thirty grenades in the next couple of minutes, just pouring them into the breach. In my defense it's really hard to kill things face-to-face when I've only got 600 eHP even at full proto in a logi frame. Guys, we need to stop calling MU a 'matchmaker' when it's actually a 'teambuilder'. And I want to play FE:A now. Damn.
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 2297	Posted - 2015.02.24 13:58:00 - [2] - Quote Valid tactic... If the suit otherwise sucks that bad. Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens 3263	Posted - 2015.02.24 14:32:00 - [3] - Quote Well, I guess the Caldari Logistics clearly isn't the most inferior Logistics suit now. Clearly. "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 15755	Posted - 2015.02.24 14:52:00 - [4] - Quote Like Remotes, the tactic only works against scrubs who can't be bothered with things such as situational awareness and actual movement so I consider it fair game. Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Well, I guess the Caldari Logistics clearly isn't the most inferior Logistics suit now. Clearly. I'd rather field any of the other Logis than the Caldari, even in PUBs. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Aidualc LATINOS KILLERS CORP Dark Taboo 68	Posted - 2015.02.24 14:58:00 - [5] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: Valid tactic... If the suit otherwise sucks that bad. Yeap.. but wait... What if the other redberries are just only milita and basic suits... ooh.. yeap.. CHEAPEST Kills... It's like camping a droplink... "valid tactic"... skill less kills.
Edau Skir2 Nefantar Raiders 596	Posted - 2015.02.24 15:09:00 - [6] - Quote Aidualc wrote: LUGMOS wrote: Valid tactic... If the suit otherwise sucks that bad. Yeap.. but wait... What if the other redberries are just only milita and basic suits... ooh.. yeap.. CHEAPEST Kills... It's like camping a droplink... "valid tactic"... skill less kills. Pretty sure the Core Locus has enough damage to kill anything non-Sentinel. Logistics mk.0 / Logibro's Modified Logistics mk.0
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6882	Posted - 2015.02.24 15:25:00 - [7] - Quote Edau Skir2 wrote: Pretty sure the Core Locus has enough damage to kill anything non-Sentinel. I believe two are required to kill a well-fit Assault. They hit for 600 damage. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 2297	Posted - 2015.02.24 16:01:00 - [8] - Quote Aidualc wrote: LUGMOS wrote: Valid tactic... If the suit otherwise sucks that bad. Yeap.. but wait... What if the other redberries are just only milita and basic suits... ooh.. yeap.. CHEAPEST Kills... It's like camping a droplink... "valid tactic"... skill less kills. I think I touched a nerve... Working as intended. Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game RUST415 887	Posted - 2015.02.24 16:34:00 - [9] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Edau Skir2 wrote: Pretty sure the Core Locus has enough damage to kill anything non-Sentinel. I believe they hit for 600 damage, and I believe two are required to kill a well-fit Assault. We should ask Lorhak here to pop one off in-hand to see if his CalLogi can also survive one. Grenades have HS multiplier [correct me if i'm wrong.] To OP. It was, it was. But current TTK is low as fk and you won't survive long enough to throw that nade. Loyal to State https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2629870#post2629870 - Mejto's trade/sale list
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 6342	Posted - 2015.02.24 16:47:00 - [10] - Quote They nerfed STD and ADV but left the PRO intact, if I remember correctly.

Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3019	Posted - 2015.02.24 16:47:00 - [11] - Quote The problem with grenades used to be that they did their full damage their whole blast radius. A long while ago, this was fixed for all the grenades (including flux), making them much more balanced. Now you basically need to snowball someone to get the full effect of a grenade, which makes mindless grenade spam much less of a problem. Personally, I wish they'd lower the nanite cluster usage for grenades a little since I usually run compacts and never get more than two helpings of reload, or at least make the grenades wait a replenish cycle so I get more ammo. Dust is there! I was real! Dear diary, Rattati senpai noticed me today~
DRT 99 OUTCAST MERCS RISE of LEGION 131	Posted - 2015.02.24 17:08:00 - [12] - Quote Atiim wrote: Like Remotes, the tactic only works against scrubs who can't be bothered with things such as situational awareness and actual movement so I consider it fair game. Because situational awareness and movement will totally help you dodge a cooked grenade thrown directly at you.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 15762	Posted - 2015.02.24 17:58:00 - [13] - Quote DRT 99 wrote: Atiim wrote: Like Remotes, the tactic only works against scrubs who can't be bothered with things such as situational awareness and actual movement so I consider it fair game. Because situational awareness and movement will totally help you dodge a cooked grenade thrown directly at you. When said grenade has the range of Ion Pistol and can only hit one area it totally will. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
XxBlazikenxX Y.A.M.A.H 311	Posted - 2015.02.24 18:01:00 - [14] - Quote At least the Caldari logi is actually doing something for once. Grenade spam may be its only valid tactic left. Hopefully when they introduce the shield equivalent of Repair tools, the Caldari logi will get a bonus. Terrestrial Combat Officer of Y.A.M.A.H Recruitment Guide Writer
Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2421	Posted - 2015.02.24 18:04:00 - [15] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: At least the Caldari logi is actually doing something for once. Grenade spam may be its only valid tactic left. Hopefully when they introduce the shield equivalent of Repair tools, the Caldari logi will get a bonus. That implies that the Caldari get the Shield Repair Tool, if we ever get one. It should obviously be an Amarr equipment, with the Amarr Logi getting the bonus towards it. Inb4 "that makes no sense!" It makes just as much sense as the Repair tool being Minmatar instead of Gallente... Home at Last <3
XxBlazikenxX Y.A.M.A.H 311	Posted - 2015.02.24 18:07:00 - [16] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: At least the Caldari logi is actually doing something for once. Grenade spam may be its only valid tactic left. Hopefully when they introduce the shield equivalent of Repair tools, the Caldari logi will get a bonus. That implies that the Caldari get the Shield Repair Tool, if we ever get one. It should obviously be an Amarr equipment, with the Amarr Logi getting the bonus towards it. Amarr Logi already has a very good bonus, and it is the reason why uplinks win pc battles. Amarr logi does not need to change, Caldari however, do. Terrestrial Combat Officer of Y.A.M.A.H Recruitment Guide Writer
Lorhak Gannarsein Nos Nothi 4340	Posted - 2015.02.25 14:24:00 - [17] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Edau Skir2 wrote: Pretty sure the Core Locus has enough damage to kill anything non-Sentinel. I believe they hit for 600 damage, and I believe two are required to kill a well-fit Assault. We should ask Lorhak here to pop one off in-hand to see if his CalLogi can also survive one. by a fraction :) i've max eHP skills and four complex shield extenders for just under 500 shields and 112 armour. If it had enough damage to one-hit 'anything non-sentinel' I'd have a lot more kills. Meitj0 wrote: To OP. It was, it was. But current TTK is low as fk and you won't survive long enough to throw that nade. I can't do it in a straight fight, no. But if we're ducking in and out of cover I can manage, and of course I don't spam them unless there's no hope of retaliation (like through a window and bouncing them off rooves) DRT 99 wrote: Because situational awareness and movement will totally help you dodge a cooked grenade thrown directly at you. Dropping a cooked grenade right on your face takes practise. I'm prepared to call that application of skill. (still working on it myself, although I'm okay). XxBlazikenxX wrote: Amarr Logi already has a very good bonus, and it is the reason why uplinks win pc battles. Amarr logi does not need to change, Caldari however, do. Funnily enough I have that suit too; the bonus is good but the application is very poor. If the mechanics around it were improved or the suit stronger I'd call it more valuable, but as it is I'd rather just fit Flux and FW uplinks and use a better suit. It can't compete with CalLogi in direct combat (and CalLogi isn't very strong, either). Guys, we need to stop calling MU a 'matchmaker' when it's actually a 'teambuilder'. And I want to play FE:A now. Damn.


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