DUST Search - So, are Hybrids Caldari and Gallente again?

MrShooter01 wrote:

Sgt Kirk wrote:

I've only been in EVE for about two years so if they've had actual missiles bonuses I wouldn't have known that but right now they do actually have missile turret hardpoints but then again so do some Duvolle ships now that I'm looking in the ISIS on EVE right now.

A handful of Gallente ships have missile hardpoints (and turret boats from other races sometimes do too), but these hardpoints don't have any real purpose. You can squeeze a torpedo launcher onto the 7th slot of a hyperion after running out of turret hardpoints for a trivial amount of extra firepower, but it is ~~almost~~always a terrible choice vs using that PG/CPU elsewhere or equipping a more useful module in that highslot, like an energy neut/vampire. Or a tractor beam.

Roden Shipyard's flavor text of "prefering missiles" never made sense, they were always terrible "missile platforms" in the sense that sometimes they had an extra handful of unbonused missile hardpoints while the ship gave a bonus to hybrid turrets that you could cripple your fit with if you really wanted to... I think only Roden's Eris interdictor even had a ship bonus to missiles back when it was a split weapon system ship

Really, the only reason these ships still have these legacy eyesore missile hardpoints is because of wishful thinking by some dev that surely somebody, anybody in the game thinks that a launcher with defender missiles is a good idea. (Nobody does, they aren't)

Gallente and Caldari sharing hybrid weapon bonuses again would be awesome though

But the other races would get jealous of all the weapons our suit bonuses would apply to

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Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 9660	Posted - 2015.02.23 07:28:00 - [1] - Quote So, apparently something called a Roden Sniper exist. This coupled with a 'Pyrus' Allotek Sniper rifle leads me to have the following theory. Because Allotek is actually just an offshoot sister company of Roden Shipyards they will produce some of the same weapons. Roden Shipyards in EVE has an odd trait of actually utilizing missiles which is not a custom of typical Gallente technique. In DUST we see Allotek having Nanohives, and once upon a time, drop uplinks and even sniper rifles and forge guns if you count the Pyrus series of weapons as lore accurate. This causes me to believe that Roden [Allotek] will have a similar trait in EVE of not being conventional in DUST as well. Tl;dr Gallente finally have Hybrid Rails??? *As long as 4/5 (80%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP*
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 18711	Posted - 2015.02.23 07:38:00 - [2] - Quote Roden ships have abandoned the use of Missiles I think in more recent upgrade trends; I could be wrong. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 9660	Posted - 2015.02.23 07:52:00 - [3] - Quote I've only been in EVE for about two years so if they've had actual missiles bonuses I wouldn't have known that but right now they do actually have missile turret hardpoints but then again so do some Duvolle ships now that I'm looking in the ISIS on EVE right now. Oh well. There's still something to Allotek doing their own thing with nanohives. (I just want Caldari and Gallente to have Hybrid bonuses like we used to ) *As long as 4/5 (80%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP*
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 739	Posted - 2015.02.23 08:02:00 - [4] - Quote The rail rifle does work well on gal dropsuits... "Anybody order chaos?"
Lorhak Gannarsein Nos Nothi 4319	Posted - 2015.02.23 08:11:00 - [5] - Quote Where do you actually /get/ the Roden Sniper Rifle? I've got one in my inventory, but I don't know where from. Guys, we need to stop calling MU a 'matchmaker' when it's actually a 'teambuilder'. And I want to play FE:A now. Damn.
MrShooter01 Ustio Mercenary Squadron 1393	Posted - 2015.02.23 08:13:00 - [6] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: I've only been in EVE for about two years so if they've had actual missiles bonuses I wouldn't have known that but right now they do actually have missile turret hardpoints but then again so do some Duvolle ships now that I'm looking in the ISIS on EVE right now. A handful of Gallente ships have missile hardpoints (and turret boats from other races sometimes do too), but these hardpoints don't have any real purpose. You can squeeze a torpedo launcher onto the 7th slot of a hyperion after running out of turret hardpoints for a trivial amount of extra firepower, but it is ~~almost~~always a terrible choice vs using that PG/CPU elsewhere or equipping a more useful module in that highslot, like an energy neut/vampire. Or a tractor beam. Roden Shipyard's flavor text of "prefering missiles" never made sense, they were always terrible "missile platforms" in the sense that sometimes they had an extra handful of unbonused missile hardpoints while the ship gave a bonus to hybrid turrets that you could cripple your fit with if you really wanted to... I think only Roden's Eris interdictor even had a ship bonus to missiles back when it was a split weapon system ship Really, the only reason these ships still have these legacy eyesore missile hardpoints is because of wishful thinking by some dev that surely somebody, anybody in the game thinks that a launcher with defender missiles is a good idea. (Nobody does, they aren't)
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 9660	Posted - 2015.02.23 08:51:00 - [7] - Quote You're right about that. My enyo has a missile harpoint and I don't even use it, it's completely useless. *As long as 4/5 (80%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP*
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 15259	Posted - 2015.02.23 09:52:00 - [8] - Quote MrShooter01 wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: I've only been in EVE for about two years so if they've had actual missiles bonuses I wouldn't have known that but right now they do actually have missile turret hardpoints but then again so do some Duvolle ships now that I'm looking in the ISIS on EVE right now. A handful of Gallente ships have missile hardpoints (and turret boats from other races sometimes do too), but these hardpoints don't have any real purpose. You can squeeze a torpedo launcher onto the 7th slot of a hyperion after running out of turret hardpoints for a trivial amount of extra firepower, but it is ~~almost~~always a terrible choice vs using that PG/CPU elsewhere or equipping a more useful module in that highslot, like an energy neut/vampire. Or a tractor beam. Roden Shipyard's flavor text of "prefering missiles" never made sense, they were always terrible "missile platforms" in the sense that sometimes they had an extra handful of unbonused missile hardpoints while the ship gave a bonus to hybrid turrets that you could cripple your fit with if you really wanted to... I think only Roden's Eris interdictor even had a ship bonus to missiles back when it was a split weapon system ship Really, the only reason these ships still have these legacy eyesore missile hardpoints is because of wishful thinking by some dev that surely somebody, anybody in the game thinks that a launcher with defender missiles is a good idea. (Nobody does, they aren't) Gallente and Caldari sharing hybrid weapon bonuses again would be awesome though But the other races would get jealous of all the weapons our suit bonuses would apply to Min and Amarr both have close and long range options. Cal and Gal are two extreme opposites who have nothing outside if Long/Short range. Having both suits get both bonuses would make sense. Cat Merc for C¦¦P¦¦M¦¦9¦¦ CPM Nyan! *Vote 'Keshava' for the new Gallente vehicle name!*
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 3140	Posted - 2015.02.23 10:38:00 - [9] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: You're right about that. My enyo has a missile harpoint and I don't even use it, it's completely useless. Its been a while but, why waste fitting on a missile when you have crazy blaster dps Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa? MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 3338	Posted - 2015.02.23 14:26:00 - [10] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: I've got one in my inventory, but I don't know where from. FW salvage by nailing another player who had it, or using the Experimental Weapons Lab and getting lucky. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire

sabre prime Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 966	Posted - 2015.02.23 18:02:00 - [11] - Quote Bradric Banewolf wrote: The rail rifle does work well on gal dropsuits... And why is that? Does the Gal dropsuit bonus apply to the rail rifle? I have seen people using the ARR with Gal Assault. The slow blade penetrates the shield.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 9664	Posted - 2015.02.23 18:18:00 - [12] - Quote sabre prime wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: The rail rifle does work well on gal dropsuits... And why is that? Does the Gal dropsuit bonus apply to the rail rifle? I have seen people using the ARR with Gal Assault. I'm not sure but the Gallente's suit nature is also very good at suppressive fire from down range. *As long as 4/5 (80%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP*
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 1566	Posted - 2015.02.23 20:13:00 - [13] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: You're right about that. My enyo has a missile harpoint and I don't even use it, it's completely useless. Ravens have turret hard points. i giggle every time i come across a turreted raven km, because just why? Hahaha In favor of removing vehicles only so Spkr quits everything.


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