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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.02.20 15:44:00 -
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Crossposted from GD.
Vrain Matari wrote:We've all been thinking about this for a long time. The solution that seems the best compromise for good pub play/keeping friends together is:
Allow squads in pubs, but impose a metalevel limit on the individual squad members for the duration of the match. Fittings above the metalevel cutoff would be unavailable from the fitting screen, we could just gray them out.
Solo players would face no meta restrictions. If a solo player in higher meta gear wants to join a squad they can do so but will become meta-restricted for the duration of the match.
We'd get better gameplay out of it, squads would still be powerful because teamwork, anybody choosing to run proto would be taking a calculated risk, and the teambalancer/matchmaker's jobs would get easier.
Calculating the metascore of a loadout.
The principle here is to make high meta gear more 'expensive' in terms of metascore. Answer is simple and easily tweakable - just cube the meta of each item in the loadout, suit, weapons, equip, nades, modules - add it all up and that's the fitting's metascore.
e.g. a STD weapon would cost 1-¦ = 1, an advanced weapon would cost 3-¦ = 9 and a proto weapon would cost 5-¦ = 125.
So a Dragonfly scout fitted with all STD gear would have a metascore of 10(1 for the suit, 4 for slots, 2 for weapons, 2 for equip, 1 for nades).
A G/1 scout fitted with all ADV gear would have a metascore of 99(9 for the suit, 45 for slots, 18 for weapons, 18 for equip, 9 for nades).
Setting the metalevel cuttoff for squads is the last piece of the puzzle, and also easily tweakable as we get experience with this mechanic.
Given the power multiplier of squads, a metalevel cuttoff of 90 should get us good gameplay in pubs.
With a mechanic like this we could keep 6 man squads, if we wanted to.
PSN: RationalSpark
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3010
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Posted - 2015.02.20 15:49:00 -
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This sounds awful.
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
2504
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Posted - 2015.02.20 15:51:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:This sounds awful. ...for serial protostomping PC corp squads, yes, it does sound awful.
But they'd still do well under a squad meta restriction.
PSN: RationalSpark
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
7311
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Posted - 2015.02.20 15:51:00 -
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Don't ask for a metalock then ask for exceptions.
If you run solo you get exempt?
That's not metalock it's punishing people for running with friends.
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
2504
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Posted - 2015.02.20 15:55:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Don't ask for a metalock then ask for exceptions.
If you run solo you get exempt?
That's not metalock it's punishing people for running with friends. Who does the power advantage go to, the proto-wearing solo or the adv-wearing squad? Answer is obvious. Nothing to be afraid of here.
PSN: RationalSpark
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
7312
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Posted - 2015.02.20 16:08:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Don't ask for a metalock then ask for exceptions.
If you run solo you get exempt?
That's not metalock it's punishing people for running with friends. Who does the power advantage go to, the proto-wearing solo or the adv-wearing squad? Answer is obvious. Nothing to be afraid of here. And that's the most self-serving copout I have seen so far
If a match is locked to standard, ALL players should be locked to standard.
No exception.
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Ku Shala
UNITED MERCINARY AND PILOTS ALLIANCE
1259
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Posted - 2015.02.20 16:55:00 -
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just add a bit of delay to matchmaking like 60-90 seconds so that more squads/players are que'd.
I cant confirm this as being intentional; it has been taking longer to get into pub matches, the delay seems to make for better matchmaking.
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
2514
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Posted - 2015.02.26 13:07:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Vrain Matari wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Don't ask for a metalock then ask for exceptions.
If you run solo you get exempt?
That's not metalock it's punishing people for running with friends. Who does the power advantage go to, the proto-wearing solo or the adv-wearing squad? Answer is obvious. Nothing to be afraid of here. And that's the most self-serving copout I have seen so far If a match is locked to standard, ALL players should be locked to standard. No exception. Sounds like you really wanna keep your passive bonii over the noobs. Even with my proposal individual vets in squads would still have a net numerical tank/dps/ewar/mobility/many-other-things advantage over new players.
Not good enough for you?
PSN: RationalSpark
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