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Talos Vagheitan
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.02.16 05:39:00 -
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And smooth out this entire game.
What is the first thing new players notice about Dust? It has a confusing fittings system...
What's the second thing? Dust is very choppy and clunky. This is the kind of thing that turns away new players immediately, long before they ever get to see the awesome depth, customization, community etc.
It's easy to overlook for the community, because everyone who sticks with this game eventually learns to deal with it. We eventually learn the exact perfect spot to run in order to make it up a hill, we learn where the invisible walls are, we learn which ramps will make our character have a seizure, we learn that we need to stop and wait a few seconds before we can jump over a sidewalk curb etc. etc. etc.
Learning this stuff really isn't fun (not to mention that new players have to learn it while being protostomped).
First impressions are everything, and as great as I feel this game is overall, it gives a bad one.
Off the top of my head, here's what you NEED to do.
- Fix how mercs interact with terrain. Make it much more visible where you can and cannot run. Particularly with hills.
- Change/Remove the camera and gun shake when you start to fall. It's insanely annoying to be shooting at somebody while standing on a hill, and suddenly your camera is shaking and your gun is all over the screen because of a weird piece of terrain you're on.
- Fix all invisible walls
- Fix jumping. Raise minimum jump height and add hurdling to waist height obstacles
- Literally smooth the maps. They are too bumpy. Even paved roads have bumps that will flip your LAV if you hit them full speed. These bumps are also what causes the nightmare of trying to walk up a hill.
- Review existing maps and look for ways to streamline map design. Some maps have awkward choke points and places that are hard to get out of.
Fixing these things would make the player experienve (new and old) MUCH better.
Please make these things a high priority.
Who cares what some sniper has to say.
CCP, let's push for the license of Dust/Legion on both current Gen consoles!
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jane stalin
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
145
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Posted - 2015.02.16 05:53:00 -
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fix very simple things, If you are going to call in a vehicle why are you told it is not accessible after selecting it, You should not be able to select that option, The option should be redded out an then there should be an option that shows you were you can call in vehicles
Talos Vagheitan wrote:
[b]- Fix how mercs interact with terrain. Make it much more visible where you can and cannot run. Particularly with hills.
I would like a simple color code for climb and cannot climb, It is sort of that way now but it is very common for me to get stopped in my tracks when I think I can actually move, |
Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
2105
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Posted - 2015.02.16 06:15:00 -
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Similar to this. Most inclines have a dead stop at the top. Remember uprising 1.0. Yeah that bad. We get stuck on everything. Our mercs lift their feet higher than the things we cannot traverse. Jumping takes valuable stamina. Please look into it
Who wants some?
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bathtubist
TRUE SAVAGES
Learning Alliance
46
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Posted - 2015.02.16 07:12:00 -
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Your right on the aiming animation tho whenever I fall down while aiming on any of my CR it looms like they are on a bouncy house |
Stefan Stahl
Seituoda Taskforce Command
987
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Posted - 2015.02.16 11:06:00 -
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I concur that polish is much needed.
While new content is great and also required, we're in a position where Dust needs to make a much better better impression during the first 2-5 hours of gameplay. That means we need NPE and polish.
As a vet I'm not qualified to give good advice on what needs polishing. CCP should look into running some focus group tests with non-FPS gamers and see where they get hung up. Which will be everywhere - but some things in particular. Then fix the subgroup of those particular hindrances that are easy to fix.
... But maybe just maybe this has already been done and the automatic inertia dampener was the first (heavy handed...) result from that. |
Izlare Lenix
Pub Stars
1259
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Posted - 2015.02.16 11:22:00 -
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Lol. CCP is too busy adding more colors to things to work on core game mechanics.
The only real truth in history is that it was bloody.
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castba
Rogue Instincts
764
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Posted - 2015.02.16 11:27:00 -
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jane stalin wrote:fix very simple things, If you are going to call in a vehicle why are you told it is not accessible after selecting it? If vehicles are not accessible in your current position You should not be able to select that option, The option should be redded out with the explanation "vehicles not available at current location" and then there should be an option that shows you where you can call in vehicles Talos Vagheitan wrote:
[b]- Fix how mercs interact with terrain. Make it much more visible where you can and cannot run. Particularly with hills.
I would like a simple color code for can climb and cannot climb, It is sort of that way now but it is very common for me to get stopped in my tracks when I think I can actually move,
Like a green path between red slopes?
You have got to be kidding.
"When everything is OP, nothing is" - CCP Ratatti
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Cyzad4
Blackfish Corp.
630
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Posted - 2015.02.16 11:51:00 -
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I'm not quite sure what you mean about the "awkward choke points" but other than that YES to all of them.
These are by far the most aggravating things about the game, I was going to pick an example of which one is worst but can't...
wait yes I can, ALL the terrain glitches on Ashland near 'C'
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair.
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Talos Vagheitan
Ancient Exiles.
974
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Posted - 2015.02.16 18:55:00 -
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Cyzad4 wrote:I'm not quite sure what you mean about the "awkward choke points" but other than that YES to all of them.
These are by far the most aggravating things about the game, I was going to pick an example of which one is worst but can't...
wait yes I can, ALL the terrain glitches on Ashland near 'C'
Being an experienced player, you probably got stuck in them when you were new, and haven't gone there since.
I don't know socket names, but there are a handful of places you can fall, where there is a single ladder to get out. Rooftops can be annoying when the building is covered in railings which can't be jumped over etc. Railings are hugely annoying when we can't hurtle over them. Particularly for heavy frames.
A rule of thumb, a player should be able to turn no more than 180 degrees and be able to get out of the area they're in. Way too much obstruction in general.
Who cares what some sniper has to say.
CCP, let's push for the license of Dust/Legion on both current Gen consoles!
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Cyzad4
Blackfish Corp.
631
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Posted - 2015.02.16 20:37:00 -
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Talos Vagheitan wrote:Cyzad4 wrote:I'm not quite sure what you mean about the "awkward choke points" but other than that YES to all of them.
These are by far the most aggravating things about the game, I was going to pick an example of which one is worst but can't...
wait yes I can, ALL the terrain glitches on Ashland near 'C' Being an experienced player, you probably got stuck in them when you were new, and haven't gone there since. I don't know socket names, but there are a handful of places you can fall, where there is a single ladder to get out. Rooftops can be annoying when the building is covered in railings which can't be jumped over etc. Railings are hugely annoying when we can't hurtle over them. Particularly for heavy frames. A rule of thumb, a player should be able to turn no more than 180 degrees and be able to get out of the area they're in. Way too much obstruction in general.
Ah gotcha, so you mean like 3/4 of all structures
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
6215
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Posted - 2015.02.17 01:08:00 -
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For me, it wasn't the fitting screen that was confusing. It was the control scheme. Triangle to crouch, not switch weapons? Wut? |
Talos Vagheitan
Ancient Exiles.
976
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Posted - 2015.02.18 19:39:00 -
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I climbed a ladder today, got stuck at the top, and fell off the building, twice.
Had to climb to the top and then jump over an invisible boundary.
Fix please
Who cares what some sniper has to say.
CCP, let's push for the license of Dust/Legion on both current Gen consoles!
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SILENT GIANT
FATHERS-AND-SONS
247
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Posted - 2015.02.18 21:57:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:For me, it wasn't the fitting screen that was confusing. It was the control scheme. Triangle to crouch, not switch weapons? Wut?
you do know you can change that right?
Pretty sure my controls are same as battlefield. I swap weapons w triangle, and crouch w r3. |
Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
2124
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Posted - 2015.02.19 02:07:00 -
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Talos Vagheitan wrote:I climbed a ladder today, got stuck at the top, and fell off the building, twice.
Had to climb to the top and then jump over an invisible boundary.
Fix please
There is a better place to put this info. Also narrow it down. Taking a look at the maps there is a grid For each.
Who wants some?
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
7880
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Posted - 2015.02.19 03:22:00 -
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I think your analysis is a bit over simplified.
It does not take into account that Rattati has limited resources. It would be nice if we could just point to a problem and CCP would devote every resource toward fixing it, but that isn't the reality.
Also, pointing out a problem and finding a solution aren't the same thing. Sometimes problems are more complex than those of us on the outside realize, and fixing them may take more time and resources than we might realize.
What is more, by using labor more efficiently, they will be able to increase the revenue of Dust, and therefore have MORE resources to put in and fix the larger problems.
I think that Rattati has gone about fixing things the best way, even if it would be nice if it could be done differently in a perfect world.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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The Eristic
Dust 90210
804
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Posted - 2015.02.19 03:43:00 -
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One thing that *still* gets me killed after all this time is the inability to roll around a corner into cover. Nope, better give that wall a good foot of clearance or it'll just stop me dead in my tracks. It's like there's a lack of subtlety in vectoring or some such.
Reality is the original Rorschach.
Verily! So much for all that.
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DDx77
The Exemplars
RISE of LEGION
133
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Posted - 2015.02.19 05:58:00 -
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Did anyone else think this was going to be a hate thread?
I was really hoping for all kinds of awful things to do with sandpaper
Oh well.....great post anyway, yes i hate the terrain it gets me killed and jumping height needs to be increased as well as fall damage reduction
Militia Bolt Pistol - Cause that fourth shot is just a waste of time
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Assert Dominance
Ahrendee Mercenaries
879
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Posted - 2015.02.19 06:37:00 -
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your asking CCP to actually invest money in real development and fix their game? gl and gg
LogicGäó
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Assert Dominance
Ahrendee Mercenaries
879
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Posted - 2015.02.19 06:40:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:For me, it wasn't the fitting screen that was confusing. It was the control scheme. Triangle to crouch, not switch weapons? Wut?
duty calls button layout
LogicGäó
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