There's no point to a short-range rifle if a long-range rifle is just as good from the hip in short range. I disagree with you completely, but I'll play ball. Is it hard or easy pull a trigger really fast while not aiming?

And all SCR arguments seem to ignore the fact that you can only get out around 1000 damage before seizing up a ScR unless you use AmAssault, assuming no damage mods. That assumes you land all 16 shots on target. A PR can get out 2380 damage with absolutely no overheat, barely any kick, and you can reset the kick by stopping your fire for a split second. That is over double the damage. The ScR is not even one of the top 10 rifles in market purchases. You know why? Because it is a ***** to learn how to use. Yes, it is very very good if your opponent has low health or is shield based and you can land every single shot. Miss some and that damage is lowered drastically, and then you either have to seize up and wait for it to cool down, or switch to your sidearm to finish the job.

The longer range rifles I've used in other shooters were consistently unwieldy when fired from the hip. They still hit hard and could kill in CQC, but not without significant effort on the part of the shooter. The long-range ScR requires no such effort in close quarters. Orient oneself toward a target and spam. That's it. Heat management is not difficult to learn, nor is switching to a sidearm to finish the job.

There are units in the game without 1000HP. Weapon Balance must take into account their existence. It is an expressed Design Goal that all playstyles should be viable, and to the best of my knowledge SG/NK Scouts are still considered to be a legitimate playstyle. To these units ScR spin-and-win is a serious balance problem. Spin. Spam. Win. There is no skill, effort or planning involved.

You say, "What should separate CQC from long range rifles is how quickly and how easily they can apply their damage."

I'll ask you again, is it hard or easy pull a trigger really fast while not aiming?

So, that's a metric by which to measure balance. You and other players say it is "fine"; this metric disagrees. So do other players. What I find least "fine" is ScR's capacity for spin-and-win against low-tank units. I believe its range profile is more like an RR's than the AR's, and I believe it should perform from the hip more like an RR than an AR.


The title of this thread reads "Rifle Balance". You and I can discuss Fine Rifle vs Shotgun performance in the next Shotgun Balance thread. I Shotgun often, but I've also run every Fine Rifle in the game at Proficiency V. The ScR is currently one of them.

Edit: Is there any truth to this thread? Does the ScR really out-range the RR?

It would be better to cut 'Lasers' into two damage types though. Lasers and Scramblers, then make Scramblers +15/-15.
In this way, they would mirror Projectiles and Explosives.