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Baal Omniscient
Qualified Scrub
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Posted - 2015.02.12 00:37:00 -
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"Here kitty, kitty, kitty. Come in and clean off the human stench, your enemies smell like apes and you've apparently been in a few CQC fights with the fat ones. I have a debate topic to discuss with you. Three in fact."
#1. Nerfing the bolt pistol & ion pistol "minorly"
#2. Gallente armor repair bonus buff/alteration
#3. Adjusting CPU/PG disparities in shield extenders
Winmatar Assault, Proficiency 5 SMG's & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
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Posted - 2015.02.12 00:38:00 -
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Ion pistol needs nerfing?
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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LT SHANKS
You In The Nutz
5092
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Posted - 2015.02.12 00:40:00 -
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*pisses in milk and on tuna*
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
237
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Posted - 2015.02.12 00:46:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Ion pistol needs nerfing?
I felt same way.
And as far as nerfing BP, just put it back to six shot stats (I know.. that horse is dead)
*beats it anyway*
"Lets group up and push an objective" ~ No blueberry ever
07-28-12 ~Deal with it~
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Nos Nothi
4273
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Posted - 2015.02.12 00:47:00 -
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Why does the ion pistol need nerfing?
Well, here goes nothing!!!
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy
2055
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Posted - 2015.02.12 00:48:00 -
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IoP needs to be nerfed?
loooool. Nerf the magnetic AA on the BP and it suddenly won't be as good.
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Baal Omniscient
Qualified Scrub
2185
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Posted - 2015.02.12 00:49:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Ion pistol needs nerfing? Just a minor charge time increase, nothing drastic. It appears far to easy to drop a persons shields in 5 shots or less, then 1 shot most suits armor almost completely off, if not killing them outright. Maybe an increase to the charge sound too, not necessarily for the person using it, but for those fighting against it so they have a better chance of hearing it. The Scr lights up like a beacon and squeals, maybe the ion pistol wouldn't suffer too much from a similar approach. It may not be as powerful as an Scr shot when charged (don't know the multipliers for either), but it's still a devastating one, even on the basic.
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TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
6028
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Posted - 2015.02.12 00:50:00 -
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#1 - Bolt pistol nerf? Sure, but minor. Ion pistol? I'll take a kilo of what you're smoking.
#2 - Gallente Suit Bonus, Armor Rep % per Level. Would require some kind of new racial skill, like Gallente Dropsuit Command.
#3 - No comment, I rarely run shield-tanked fits without loading the highs with damage mods.
Never forget
More tiericide, less tieriphiles.
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
238
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Posted - 2015.02.12 00:53:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:IoP needs to be nerfed?
loooool. Nerf the magnetic AA on the BP and it suddenly won't be as good.
I've had AA off for like two years. When my aim needs assistance, I need to be biomassed
"Lets group up and push an objective" ~ No blueberry ever
07-28-12 ~Deal with it~
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JUDASisMYhomeboy
xCosmic Voidx
402
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Posted - 2015.02.12 00:56:00 -
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All through my time playing dust514, i have prided myself on skilling into things that were universally considered underpowered or was at the very least, underused.
The ion pistol is so bad even i won't use it
"In a world gone mad,only a lunatic is truly insane"
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
17119
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Posted - 2015.02.12 01:11:00 -
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*Shakes box of Meow Mix
"This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
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The Eristic
Dust 90210
797
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Posted - 2015.02.12 01:23:00 -
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Bolt needs another tweak, sure, but the Ion Pistol? Lucky if 1/3 of your shots hit the target in optimal. Maybe it's OP on GalAss V with Sharpshooter V or something.
Reality is the original Rorschach.
Verily! So much for all that.
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TerranKnight87
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
162
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Posted - 2015.02.12 01:27:00 -
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Jellicle cats are.........they **** on everything and think they are boss.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oHfBaKXxEk&list=PLSIS6HmPl_B5f7V_Nl4TX2csK65sc7NIv
"Tech you're in a max suit, you have 15 mins to unfk yourself or you can fk off." - Stumpycat C/O of Goon Brigade.
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Atiim
Titans of Phoenix
15574
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Posted - 2015.02.12 02:52:00 -
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1. Bolt Pistol is fine, unless you get a headshot you'll need at least 3 shots to kill someone which is plenty of time to get to cover with it's spool & fire delay.
2.I don't see a problem with the Gallente's current base regen. If you want a good HP/s stop bricking it, find a Logi, or bring a Triage Hive like everyone else.
3. Yes.
The 1st Matari Commando
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Baal Omniscient
Qualified Scrub
2185
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Posted - 2015.02.13 01:02:00 -
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Atiim wrote:1. Bolt Pistol is fine, unless you get a headshot you'll need at least 3 shots to kill someone which is plenty of time to get to cover with it's spool & fire delay.
2.I don't see a problem with the Gallente's current base regen. If you want a good HP/s stop bricking it, find a Logi, or bring a Triage Hive like everyone else.
3. Yes. Bolt pistol can shoot off a shield tankers armor in one shot unless they dual tank (in which case 2, 3-4 if sentinel), which leads to a lot of 1 BLAP charged Scr, 1 BLAP Bp = dead shield scout/assault/logi from a huge range. And though Minmatar like us have the speed/stamina to find cover quickly in many scenarios (no such thing as 'there's always cover earby when you get shot at'), we are only half of the shield tankers, and not even purely so. And leading up to the response to the Gallente suits, stacking repairs to be a regen suit like you are "supposed" to means you are a 2 shot kill if you don't throw at least one complex plate on, forcing you to either run ferro's/reactives and repairs and just playing hit and run, or tanking yourself to the point that you couldn't out strafe the Bp with a kb/m. And even still I'm only looking for a range re-balance or possibly a minor charge time increase for such a strong ranged sidearm shot.
Gallente is supposed to be the absolute best at repair tanking while Amarr suits are far better for it due to slot layouts, so a stacking bonus (as opposed to a stacking penalty like with damage mods) or a simple module bonus should apply for Gallente suits to help compensate. It makes complete sense since no matter who has more lows, more lows means more eHP potential/repair potential. If you give the Gallente more lows you have more high armor Gallente suits, which is (in Dust at least if not EVE) the Amarr's domain. But if you give all Gallente suits a bonus to armor repair modules, they will run them more and be truly better regen suits. (I have a plan for all races that follow this paradigm, but this isn't the thread for that).
And yes, yes.
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Baal Omniscient
Qualified Scrub
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Posted - 2015.02.13 01:13:00 -
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One must learn to deal with the humans.
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maluble
Art.of.Death VP Gaming Alliance
198
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Posted - 2015.02.13 01:22:00 -
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Atiim wrote:1. Bolt Pistol is fine, unless you get a headshot you'll need at least 3 shots to kill someone which is plenty of time to get to cover with it's spool & fire delay.
2.I don't see a problem with the Gallente's current base regen. If you want a good HP/s stop bricking it, find a Logi, or bring a Triage Hive like everyone else.
3. Yes.
Your wrong the bolt pistol charge is non existent as well as the RR. I have 0 points into BP and i was 3 shotting adv assaults and almost killing heavys with 1 magazine of the militia varient, and they were running in the open i think i killed 5 reds before i had to retreat. A pistol should be a last resort "oh ****" weapon, not a mid range SBR (short baralled rifle) which is what it functions as. |
Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.02.13 01:27:00 -
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It's quite clear from the feedback that the Ion Pistol does not need nerfing.
You may have been one-shotted way too many times than you'd like as a scout though.
Also the Ion Pistol does make a sound, and it does have a light around it. It's smaller because of obvious reasons but it does look like you're holding a lamp and sounds like a hairdryer when you are getting ready for a charged shot
~New Eden's #1 Gallente Arm's Dealer
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Baal Omniscient
Qualified Scrub
2185
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Posted - 2015.02.13 01:34:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:It's quite clear from the feedback that the Ion Pistol does not need nerfing.
You may have been one-shotted way too many times than you'd like as a scout though.
Also the Ion Pistol does make a sound, and it does have a light around it. It's smaller because of obvious reasons but it does look like you're holding a lamp and sounds like a hairdryer when you are getting ready for a charged shot It does when you are holding it, but in a 1v1against it it does not. You hear it lightly, usually just before it goes off, and if anything else at all is going on, you hear nothing whereas with the Scr it's blatantly obvious.
Regardless of, I was sick and irritable and see that now.
Also, I almost never run scout unless it's a BPO fitted dragonfly or basic fitted STD Minmatar hacking scout (also, I don't use cloaks), so I get instakilled by everything in it anyway, a pistol doing it isn't going to make a big change to that.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
6159
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Posted - 2015.02.13 01:36:00 -
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Ion Pistol nerf? Lol what? |
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Cat Merc
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
15138
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Posted - 2015.02.13 01:38:00 -
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If my big ass hip fire hit your puny little scout, you deserve you ded. Your take up like 1/4th of my hip fire at 5m.
Cat Merc for C¦¦P¦¦M¦¦9¦¦ CPM Nyan!
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Baal Omniscient
Qualified Scrub
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Posted - 2015.02.13 01:42:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:If my big ass hip fire hit your puny little scout, you deserve you ded. Your take up like 1/4th of my hip fire at 5m. Agreed.... but why is it all of a sudden everyone assumes I run scout? Did I change my sig?
>.>
Nope, still says assault.....
What a conundrum.....
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