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Edau Skir2
Mithril Forge E-R-A
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Posted - 2015.02.11 19:22:00 -
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Every time I'm in engaged in a point offense, the many many blues stood around me fail to see the scout run past, throw an RE, and blow us all up.
It's only ever in that situation though, if I'm not blapping someone in the face, I usually see said scout and blap them instead.
My point?
More people need to start taking stock of their 360. I know for a fact that when a heavy sees my up-close scout, it's curtains for me.
It's applicable to more shooters than Dust though, so how do these people even pick up the control to play?
Think of it this way, if everyone started looking around more, we'd be technically nerfing scouts! ![Cool](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png)
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Timtron Victory
Horizons' Edge
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Posted - 2015.02.11 19:41:00 -
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its rather simple. Dust is the first first person shooter or first person game I ever played. So seriously, stop calling people scrubs. I will get my buddies to sue you ![P](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_p.png)
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Edau Skir2
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Posted - 2015.02.11 19:48:00 -
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Timtron Victory wrote:its rather simple. Dust is the first first person shooter or first person game I ever played. So seriously, stop calling people scrubs. I will get my buddies to sue you ![P](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_p.png) Easy Suzy Sue. I never used the word scrub ![Blink](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_blink.png)
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Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
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Posted - 2015.02.11 19:49:00 -
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Blueberries are blueberries. They can hold guns, barely, and they can walk around, barely, but they don't operate on the same level as you and me. They can't multitask, nor are they actually capable in battle.
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JUDASisMYhomeboy
xCosmic Voidx
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Posted - 2015.02.11 19:53:00 -
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Not the blueberries fault that running and jumping makes scouts bulletproof. Why do you think the scout did that anyway?
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Obliv
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.02.11 19:55:00 -
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The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
When on the same team it still seems like we are competing. I watch alot of scouts kill greedy people. I would kill them if my guns worked properly. Most times I have to wait until they are counter hacking. I seen one setting a trap, I cooked my grenade and tried to blow him up. In the kill feed it said remote explosive. I'm not even skilled into them. It must have been his own. |
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Obliv
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.02.11 19:58:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:Blueberries are blueberries. They can hold guns, barely, and they can walk around, barely, but they don't operate on the same level as you and me. They can't multitask, nor are they actually capable in battle.
My gear is not capable yet. I've done really well in other games. Situational and local awareness is great. If you can't kill someone you get the jump on its a whole different story. |
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Edau Skir2
Mithril Forge E-R-A
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Posted - 2015.02.11 20:21:00 -
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JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote:Not the blueberries fault that running and jumping makes scouts bulletproof. Why do you think the scout did that anyway? I said this on Tim's thread about this same "issue", and I'll say it again.
Jumping does not make anything bulletproof. Scout jumps, *blap* "Edau Skir2 (Breach Scrambler Pistol) -Jumpy Scout-"
Unless I don't see them first....
-Jumpy Scout- (Any OHKO weapon) Edau Skir2
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Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
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Posted - 2015.02.11 20:29:00 -
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Obliv wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:Blueberries are blueberries. They can hold guns, barely, and they can walk around, barely, but they don't operate on the same level as you and me. They can't multitask, nor are they actually capable in battle. My gear is not capable yet. I've done really well in other games. Situational and local awareness is great. If you can't kill someone you get the jump on its a whole different story.
o_O You can kill most tho if you have the initiative, aka getting the jump on them. Aiming at their head, or whatever weakness your weapon is built to take advantage of, and take them down when they realize it. Running just militia fits should make you capable.
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Timtron Victory
Horizons' Edge
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Posted - 2015.02.12 03:15:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote:Not the blueberries fault that running and jumping makes scouts bulletproof. Why do you think the scout did that anyway? I said this on Tim's thread about this same "issue", and I'll say it again. Jumping does not make anything bulletproof. Scout jumps, *blap* "Edau Skir2 (Breach Scrambler Pistol) -Jumpy Scout-" Unless I don't see them first.... -Jumpy Scout- (Any OHKO weapon) Edau Skir2 ![X](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_x.png)
I have emptied almost an entire clip of advanced scrambler pistol into a jumping medium frame and did zero damage. He was jumping away from me though. Bullets were just bouncing off, and I was using either the regular scrambler or assault so it should have more range. If a scout is jumping at you and you time it right then yes you get them but if a suit is dancing in the air by jumping repeatedly, I think the game is unable to read if the suit is in the air or on the ground
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Sacrilege of Fatal Arms
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Posted - 2015.02.12 03:22:00 -
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I have often wondered the same. I think is more a dependency on scanners. They make you lazy. Players focus on all the red lit up on the screen. I always laugh a little when people talk about situational awareness with the way active scanners work.
I would rather look bad and win, than look good and lose.
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Operative 1174 Uuali
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2015.02.12 06:32:00 -
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You fail to understand the context of this product. It is a video game on a TV screen that is being piped through a server. The delayed graphics, sound and hit registration alone makes it where anything one could react to has already happened a second or so ago. Not to mention I'm hardly going to get good with a console game at this stage anyway. Runny jumpy shooty crap. Grow up child.
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Evil V2 RE
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.02.12 06:36:00 -
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Timtron Victory wrote:Edau Skir2 wrote:JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote:Not the blueberries fault that running and jumping makes scouts bulletproof. Why do you think the scout did that anyway? I said this on Tim's thread about this same "issue", and I'll say it again. Jumping does not make anything bulletproof. Scout jumps, *blap* "Edau Skir2 (Breach Scrambler Pistol) -Jumpy Scout-" Unless I don't see them first.... -Jumpy Scout- (Any OHKO weapon) Edau Skir2 ![X](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_x.png) I have emptied almost an entire clip of advanced scrambler pistol into a jumping medium frame and did zero damage. He was jumping away from me though. Bullets were just bouncing off, and I was using either the regular scrambler or assault so it should have more range. If a scout is jumping at you and you time it right then yes you get them but if a suit is dancing in the air by jumping repeatedly, I think the game is unable to read if the suit is in the air or on the ground It' probably the wind...
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Jathniel
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2015.02.12 06:38:00 -
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You: "Watch OUT! For teh scOUTS!"
Blueberry: "Where dey at doe!
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Dead Man's Game RUST415
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Posted - 2015.02.12 06:40:00 -
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Often they see these scouts, they see that they throw RE, they shot at them then they all gonna stand on that remote like a bunch of ret@rds.
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Henrietta Unknown
Band O' Commandos
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Posted - 2015.02.12 07:33:00 -
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Not surprising when half an Ambush team around me can't notice a MLT Lite frame with a MLT AR chipping at my back.
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Cat Merc
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.12 07:44:00 -
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The blueberry is a fascinating creature. It's fully capable of hitting the enemy once they're low enough to be one shotted, but they cannot hit the broadside of an MCC if the enemy has any health and is attacking you.
My theory is that the blueberries have evolved through protostomper evolutionary pressure. See, protostompers tend to kill everyone and leave nothing for the blueberries, making them starve for ISK and WP, and eventually die out. Those who figured out that getting the last shot in can at least give them a chance at a kill, have survived and thrived. They also figured out that letting fellow protostompers fall to enemy fire gives them a window to attempt to secure a few kills themselves while said protostomper tries to respawn.
In the span of 2 years we have witnessed evolutionary pressures from a small colony of proto creatures shape and form the next generations of an entire species, changing their very nature from helpful to downright parasitic. Amazing.
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pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
2006
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Posted - 2015.02.12 07:52:00 -
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Battlefield awareness is op, just as much as having none makes any suit up.
I couldn't count how many reds iv literally ran past shot their fellow reds turn round and blapped them as well. I do agree that if red and blueberries actually developed decent battlefield awareness then scouts are surely done for.
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BIG BAD W0LVES
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Posted - 2015.02.12 08:03:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Battlefield awareness is op, just as much as having none makes any suit up.
I couldn't count how many reds iv literally ran past shot their fellow reds turn round and blapped them as well. I do agree that if red and blueberries actually developed decent battlefield awareness then scouts are surely done for.
To expand on this. They are blue for a reason. They are usually not in squad and cannot hear call outs. They lack even the common sense to look behind themselves when they have noone to watch their back.
If blueberries graduate to green beans the world gets much better for everyone. I've been told our comms are highly educational. In the course of one match they learn N stands for north. The ranges of the circles. When to push and when to hold. Why. And tons of useful fitting and skill info. Most importantly to STFU unless they have a pertinent fact about the current battle.
Who wants some?
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Edau Skir2
Mithril Forge E-R-A
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Posted - 2015.02.12 11:25:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:You fail to understand the context of this product. It is a video game on a TV screen that is being piped through a server. The delayed graphics, sound and hit registration alone makes it where anything one could react to has already happened a second or so ago. Not to mention I'm hardly going to get good with a console game at this stage anyway. Runny jumpy shooty crap. Grow up child. I'm not sure which is funnier, that you just admitted to needing to git gud, or that you're telling someone who isn't a child to grow up...after conveying irritation at the "runny jumpy shooty crap"
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Timtron Victory
Horizons' Edge
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Posted - 2015.02.12 14:38:00 -
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This is the sad truth,This is a game of mercenaries and mercs are selfish. If CCP wants to promote the game as a team game then they should. Like I have said, I can run in an entire match with a proximity scanner and scan repeatedly and save my team from getting blasted by remotes and get blapped in the back by a scout but I get zero WP Most of the times your teammates watch you get killed so that either your killer gets softened for them to finish or you die so they can hack the installation.
I personally think that the losing team should get a ridiculously low payout so that players focus more on winning instead of Kill Death Ratio.
And to Edau and the rest. " I am sure that you are one of those proto suits that let me get killed so you can sneak up and kill my killer when he is reloading" Then you come here and tell me to get good or git gud pfftt . Screw you I will sue you for all your ISK RATATATATATATA ![P](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_p.png)
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Edau Skir2
Mithril Forge E-R-A
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Posted - 2015.02.12 14:50:00 -
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Timtron Victory wrote:And to Edau and the rest. " I am sure that you are one of those proto suits that let me get killed so you can sneak up and kill my killer when he is reloading" Then you come here and tell me to get good or git gud pfftt ![X](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_x.png) . Screw you I will sue you for all your ISK RATATATATATATA ![P](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_p.png) Joke's on you pal! I don't run any Proto suits, on dint of having not skilled that far up yet. Plus, I've been running Logi loads this week.
So....nope!
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