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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
3195
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Posted - 2015.02.10 19:34:00 -
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One problem with Dropsuits is that once they are strong, people abuse them and we see proto spam... which completely ruins it for everyone else. Yes I believe Proto Dropsuits should be powerful and it should take work to bring one down but if it takes work to bring them down they get spammed.
With a Proto Dropsuit limit of just 4 then the first four Proto Dropsuits called are the heavy hitters used throughout the game until destroyed. This way Proto users can have their op super dropsuits, 2 or more ADV Dropsuit users can chase around eachProtobear, while the rest of the game continues as normal. No Proto spam. No QQ. A small squad of Protobears do not need another squad of Proto as support either. They have their entire team to support them.
What do you guys think??
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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dy5t0pia
The dyst0pian Corporation
728
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Posted - 2015.02.10 19:37:00 -
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Uuuummmmmm.................................No.
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THE MILLIONCLONE CHALLENGE
Xer Cloud Consortium
134
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Posted - 2015.02.10 19:37:00 -
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What you're proposing is that people go into a match with the chance they can't use what they have spent fking ages skilling into and the chance that idiots who have no yet learnt to fit a proto suit will end up using the slots.
No thanks.
K den.
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
4593
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Posted - 2015.02.10 19:38:00 -
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No? I don't have enough space to make adv std fittings, I'm not replacing my pc fits for pubs. I do think they should have high and low sec for pubs though
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robin williams' ghost
whisky tango foxtrot sir
854
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Posted - 2015.02.10 19:38:00 -
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dy5t0pia wrote:Uuuummmmmm.................................No. I second this no
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
744
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Posted - 2015.02.10 19:40:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:One problem with Dropsuits is that once they are strong, people abuse them and we see proto spam... which completely ruins it for everyone else. Yes I believe Proto Dropsuits should be powerful and it should take work to bring one down but if it takes work to bring them down they get spammed.
With a Proto Dropsuit limit of just 4 then the first four Proto Dropsuits called are the heavy hitters used throughout the game until destroyed. This way Proto users can have their op super dropsuits, 2 or more ADV Dropsuit users can chase around eachProtobear, while the rest of the game continues as normal. No Proto spam. No QQ. A small squad of Protobears do not need another squad of Proto as support either. They have their entire team to support them.
What do you guys think??
Or an isk limit to go with the clone limit. With it being lower in pubs, It doesn't stop people using the suits, just means the bad players using them to stomp everyone with lesser suits can make an almost victory on the other two fronts into a loss.
Also makes keeping your vehicle alive more important overall to the game.
Adding an additional level to the game.
Probably too much hassle. |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
3199
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Posted - 2015.02.10 19:43:00 -
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Oh gawd
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
2090
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Posted - 2015.02.10 19:44:00 -
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No, we need more proto spam. Seriously, funnest matches I've played are the ones were both teams pulled out all the stops and spammed the hell out of proto. Sure there were people like myself on each team that were too poor to run proto the whole match but that was ok because there were still plenty of protos on boths sides that gear really didn't give either side an advantage (however slight some consider it).
Take your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty hipster!
[RYJC]
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1522
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Posted - 2015.02.10 19:50:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:One problem with Dropsuits is that once they are strong, people abuse them and we see proto spam... which completely ruins it for everyone else. Yes I believe Proto Dropsuits should be powerful and it should take work to bring one down but if it takes work to bring them down they get spammed.
With a Proto Dropsuit limit of just 4 then the first four Proto Dropsuits called are the heavy hitters used throughout the game until destroyed. This way Proto users can have their op super dropsuits, 2 or more ADV Dropsuit users can chase around eachProtobear, while the rest of the game continues as normal. No Proto spam. No QQ. A small squad of Protobears do not need another squad of Proto as support either. They have their entire team to support them.
What do you guys think??
Well, as long as people can't jump out of their proto scout suit wearing a proto HMG suit, they aren't really a problem. As long as proto weapons cots 40 times a standard weapon yet only provide 10% more damage they aren't a problem. As long as proto users aren't saying they shouldn't be getting soloed or complaining if they die more than once a match they aren't a problem. Hmmmm, I wonder what COULD be a problem?
Because, that's why.
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Crimson ShieId
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
1903
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Posted - 2015.02.10 19:51:00 -
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I'm gonna ruin the OP's fun here and point back to an earlier post that I'm pretty certain this is parodying~ Sorry, Xocoyol, no trolling for you~
I want to punch.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
17075
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Posted - 2015.02.10 19:51:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:One problem with Dropsuits is that once they are strong, people abuse them and we see proto spam... which completely ruins it for everyone else. Yes I believe Proto Dropsuits should be powerful and it should take work to bring one down but if it takes work to bring them down they get spammed.
With a Proto Dropsuit limit of just 4 then the first four Proto Dropsuits called are the heavy hitters used throughout the game until destroyed. This way Proto users can have their op super dropsuits, 2 or more ADV Dropsuit users can chase around eachProtobear, while the rest of the game continues as normal. No Proto spam. No QQ. A small squad of Protobears do not need another squad of Proto as support either. They have their entire team to support them.
What do you guys think?? I'm all about it....cuz I'm all about it.
"This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
3202
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Posted - 2015.02.10 19:52:00 -
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Crimson ShieId wrote:I'm gonna ruin the OP's fun here and point back to an earlier post that I'm pretty certain this is parodying~ Sorry, Xocoyol, no trolling for you~
I'm deadly super duper serious, his post just reminded me of all the imbalances of DUST 514, and inspired me to make a thread which would solve a lot of issues!
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
3203
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Posted - 2015.02.10 20:02:00 -
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dy5t0pia wrote:Uuuummmmmm.................................No.
I guess you hate new players
Heimdallr69 wrote:No? I don't have enough space to make adv std fittings, I'm not replacing my pc fits for pubs.
So basically your only reason against this is because you're too lazy to make new fittings as well as too selfish and are pointing to a part of the game which less then 1/10000 players play as justification?
robin williams' ghost wrote:dy5t0pia wrote:Uuuummmmmm.................................No. I second this no refuse to bring logic to the arguement, typical protstomper, psh, just say "no."
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3168
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Posted - 2015.02.10 20:03:00 -
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I think we'd be better off having a particular game mode limited to ADV and below or STD and below suits. |
Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
4596
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Posted - 2015.02.10 21:25:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:dy5t0pia wrote:Uuuummmmmm.................................No. I guess you hate new players Heimdallr69 wrote:No? I don't have enough space to make adv std fittings, I'm not replacing my pc fits for pubs. So basically your only reason against this is because you're too lazy to make new fittings as well as too selfish and are pointing to a part of the game which less then 1/10000 players play as justification? robin williams' ghost wrote:dy5t0pia wrote:Uuuummmmmm.................................No. I second this no refuse to bring logic to the arguement, typical protstomper, psh, just say "no." The point is I have X amount of spaces to have of suits I have it maxed with pc fittings and you're asking me to delete my pc fittings to make adv or std fittings just for pubs.. Calling me lazy isn't the right term, I have NO more fitting space. Damn straight I'm selfish I'm not deleting my PC fits to go do a pub then have to make that pc fit again.
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hold that
Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention
622
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Posted - 2015.02.10 21:39:00 -
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people abuse strong dropsuits? |
One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.02.10 21:44:00 -
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CCP has already mentioned having a meta capped game mode. I think that would be the better option.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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DarthJT5
Random Gunz RISE of LEGION
258
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Posted - 2015.02.10 21:46:00 -
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8/10 troll thread. People caught on too quick, if it had gotten 2 pages before someone said something then it would be 10/10 but good try man.
Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta.
Up and coming Python pilot.
The awnser is always XT missiles....
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Jason Pearson
Legio DXIV
4383
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Posted - 2015.02.10 21:47:00 -
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Great post, sound arguments, solid abs. 11/10 |
Raiden246
State of Purgatory General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.10 21:53:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:I'm gonna ruin the OP's fun here and point back to an earlier post that I'm pretty certain this is parodying~ Sorry, Xocoyol, no trolling for you~ I'm deadly super duper serious, his post just reminded me of all the imbalances of DUST 514, and inspired me to make a thread which would solve a lot of issues!
Well quite frankly it's a terrible idea. Though, there could be something like pubs without squads; if there's multiple protos on both sides not being backed up by anybody, there is no proto stomp. |
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
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Posted - 2015.02.10 21:55:00 -
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Raiden246 wrote:if there's multiple protos on both sides not being backed up by anybody, there is no proto stomp. If only there was another comparison like this with something else in the game
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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Mex-0
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
372
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Posted - 2015.02.10 21:59:00 -
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If you have a problem with protostompers in the same squad, just make your own squad. Join general tso's alliance, that's where most protostomping corps reside. Then just join an alliance squad and rekt everyone.
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G Felix
Terminus Defense Force
535
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Posted - 2015.02.10 22:00:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:I think we'd be better off having a particular game mode limited to ADV and below or STD and below suits.
This, or using meta level to establish a maximum level of gear allowed on a fitting or the total meta value of the fitting as a sum of it's parts. It would inevitably fracture the player base further, but make for better matches in general. Plus, it's probably much easier to program and implement than attempting to build a true matchmaker into Scotty. I feel like this was on Ratatti's radar at some point.
Dust can be frustrating. (Gò»°Gûí°)Gò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+)
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Assert Dominance
Ahrendee Mercenaries
865
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Posted - 2015.02.10 22:08:00 -
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worst idea ever
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Timtron Victory
Horizons' Edge
343
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Posted - 2015.02.10 22:15:00 -
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I dont know about you but I enjoy killing proto suits. Especially Assaults who think they are invisible
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.02.10 22:16:00 -
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G Felix wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:I think we'd be better off having a particular game mode limited to ADV and below or STD and below suits. This, or using meta level to establish a maximum level of gear allowed on a fitting or the total meta value of the fitting as a sum of it's parts. It would inevitably fracture the player base further, but make for better matches in general. Plus, it's probably much easier to program and implement than attempting to build a true matchmaker into Scotty. I feel like this was on Ratatti's radar at some point. Still is.
Looking at the Trello board, it might even be in upcoming one, though its not mentioned explicitly mentioned and may actually come later.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
2095
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Posted - 2015.02.10 22:22:00 -
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Mex-0 wrote:If you have a problem with protostompers in the same squad, just make your own squad. Join general tso's alliance, that's where most protostomping corps reside. Then just join an alliance squad and rekt everyone. That just sounds so boring.
Take your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty hipster!
[RYJC]
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robin williams' ghost
whisky tango foxtrot sir
860
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Posted - 2015.02.10 22:28:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:dy5t0pia wrote:Uuuummmmmm.................................No. I guess you hate new players Heimdallr69 wrote:No? I don't have enough space to make adv std fittings, I'm not replacing my pc fits for pubs. So basically your only reason against this is because you're too lazy to make new fittings as well as too selfish and are pointing to a part of the game which less then 1/10000 players play as justification? robin williams' ghost wrote:dy5t0pia wrote:Uuuummmmmm.................................No. I second this no refuse to bring logic to the arguement, typical protstomper, psh, just say "no." I am most definitely not your typical protostomper! Oh wait, yes I am.... carry on then.
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bane sieg
Eternal Beings General Tso's Alliance
49
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Posted - 2015.02.10 22:36:00 -
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Timtron Victory wrote:I dont know about you but I enjoy killing proto suits. Especially Assaults who think they are invisible You misspelled invincible
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dy5t0pia
The dyst0pian Corporation
739
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Posted - 2015.02.10 22:38:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:dy5t0pia wrote:Uuuummmmmm.................................No. I guess you hate new players Heimdallr69 wrote:No? I don't have enough space to make adv std fittings, I'm not replacing my pc fits for pubs. So basically your only reason against this is because you're too lazy to make new fittings as well as too selfish and are pointing to a part of the game which less then 1/10000 players play as justification? robin williams' ghost wrote:dy5t0pia wrote:Uuuummmmmm.................................No. I second this no refuse to bring logic to the arguement, typical protstomper, psh, just say "no."
No, I do not hate new players. Most the time I just run standard gear. I do believe there should be a separation of new players and vets though so I won't have to hear your QQ. Basically a level in between academy and the regular pubs we have now.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
17083
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Posted - 2015.02.10 22:44:00 -
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dy5t0pia wrote: I HATE NEW PLAYERS HATE NEW PLAYERS HATE NEW PLAYERS HATE NEW PLAYERS HATE NEW PLAYERS HATE NEW PLAYERS HATE NEW PLAYERS HATE NEW PLAYERS HATE NEW PLAYERS HATE NEW PLAYERS HATE NEW PLAYERS!
That's just not cool bro.
"This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2015.02.10 23:32:00 -
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dy5t0pia
The dyst0pian Corporation
741
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Posted - 2015.02.11 00:49:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:dy5t0pia wrote: I HATE NEW PLAYERS HATE NEW PLAYERS HATE NEW PLAYERS HATE NEW PLAYERS HATE NEW PLAYERS HATE NEW PLAYERS HATE NEW PLAYERS HATE NEW PLAYERS HATE NEW PLAYERS HATE NEW PLAYERS HATE NEW PLAYERS!
That's just not cool bro.
LMFAO
CEO
Closed Beta Vet
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Stupid Blueberry
State of Purgatory General Tso's Alliance
1010
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Posted - 2015.02.11 01:10:00 -
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no htfu
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
Blueberry smokin' that crack y'all
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
3219
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Posted - 2015.02.11 03:32:00 -
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Well this parody thread lasted longer then the thread being parodied, so thank you all and to all a good night!
<3
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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DRT 99
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
80
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Posted - 2015.02.11 05:12:00 -
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Yes, let us all be scrubs!
the number one solution to this is a game mode that doesnt allow squads, only solo players.
we'll see how good protos are without a logi in your ass and 3 guns watching their back. |
TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet
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Posted - 2015.02.11 06:51:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:One problem with Dropsuits is that once they are strong, people abuse them and we see proto spam... which completely ruins it for everyone else. Yes I believe Proto Dropsuits should be powerful and it should take work to bring one down but if it takes work to bring them down they get spammed.
With a Proto Dropsuit limit of just 4 then the first four Proto Dropsuits called are the heavy hitters used throughout the game until destroyed. This way Proto users can have their op super dropsuits, 2 or more ADV Dropsuit users can chase around eachProtobear, while the rest of the game continues as normal. No Proto spam. No QQ. A small squad of Protobears do not need another squad of Proto as support either. They have their entire team to support them.
What do you guys think?? I see where your coming from and everyone but proto stompers hate proto stomping but I tank when I don't run Min logi and I think its a bad idea because in modes like ambush oms if only 2 people call down vehicles I can't call down mine. If anything I'd be game for a different mode such as only militia or basic gear. So other than passive skills everyone would be on even ground. Unless a mode such as this would be added sadly I must say no even tho I agree with parts of what you say. |
KA24DERT
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
1019
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Posted - 2015.02.11 07:36:00 -
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This is an interesting proposal.
Do you think we can apply it to Advanced gear too?
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