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Justicar Karnellia
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
942
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Posted - 2015.02.10 12:28:00 -
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As the chatter for a simple trading mechanism increases, it got me thinking, as it's a "send X item to Y person"
there is plenty of room for a New Eden style scam, but with the right middlemen in a position of trust, this risk could
be reduced to a more comfortable level.
For people who know and trust each other, there is no need for this.
Likewise, corpmates trading amongst themselves could use the CEO as a middleman to guarantee a safe trade.
My scenario is more like the people who are in my position - I have a ton of BPO's to get rid of, but know few
people well enough to be able to blindly send them a BPO and expect items/ISK in return.
Are there any middlemen who exist in the community, even on the forums or in-game who provide these kinds
of services. Maybe someone who has sold BPO codes in exchange for ISK or some such mechanism?
I imagine of course the mechanism would work roughly like this:
1) Both parties agree on what to trade/buy/sell and which middleman to work through
2) Both parties send items/isk to middleman
3) Middleman confirms with both parties what they are going to receive and commission he is going to take.
4) Both parties say OK
5) Middleman completes exchange
6) Both parties very wow, much happy.
Looking forward to trading with you all. |
Jason Pearson
Legio DXIV
4378
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Posted - 2015.02.10 12:40:00 -
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I am escrow man |
Atiim
Titans of Phoenix
15546
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Posted - 2015.02.10 12:48:00 -
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I'll do it for a 10% cut of the Base ISK price of all the items I transfer.
The 1st Matari Commando
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
7076
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Posted - 2015.02.10 12:49:00 -
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I can do middleman. If you do it and charge right you can make more isk legit than you can scamming.
Besides, where's the fun of being the badguy all the time?
AV
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Justicar Karnellia
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
942
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Posted - 2015.02.10 13:05:00 -
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Atiim wrote:I'll do it for a 10% cut of the Base ISK price of all the items I transfer.
Thanks for putting a price on it. Just out of interest, in theory the buyer and seller both pay 10%? so for the sake of argument, I want to give someone a Dren Shotgun BPO (which i have a few of!), and want a uplink BPO in return, we'd each pay our 10% of what we are selling or what we are buying? Also, how are BPO's priced in ISK - You just take the BPC ISK price?
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dy5t0pia
The dyst0pian Corporation
723
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Posted - 2015.02.10 13:12:00 -
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I see myself as a very reputable figure (and I hope you do too) I would be more than happy to be a trustworthy middleman for such transactions.
CEO
Closed Beta Vet
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Atiim
Titans of Phoenix
15547
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Posted - 2015.02.10 14:17:00 -
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Justicar Karnellia wrote:
Thanks for putting a price on it. Just out of interest, in theory the buyer and seller both pay 10%?
[quote=Justicar Karnellia]so for the sake of argument, I want to give someone a Dren Shotgun BPO (which i have a few of!), and want a uplink BPO in return, we'd each pay our 10% of what we are selling or what we are buying? Also, how are BPO's priced in ISK - You just take the BPC ISK price?
Nope, just the seller. I was originally going to make it the buyer but I figured it'd be better if I made the seller pay since they could simply add on the 10% price to the negotiated price.
For item barters however, both parties would pay the 10%. And the case of a BPO, it would simply be the Base ISK Price multiplied by 5. So, your Dren Shotgun would cost around 50k to send.
APEX's however, will simply cost 100k to transfer.
The 1st Matari Commando
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robin williams' ghost
whisky tango foxtrot sir
842
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Posted - 2015.02.10 14:25:00 -
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Here you guys go again. Assuming you know how trading is going to work....
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Juno Tristan
Obscure Reference
357
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Posted - 2015.02.10 14:26:00 -
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I'll be throwing my hat into the escrow services once it all kicks off
ADS Ramming Revenge!
Should Have Stayed Inside (the Tank)
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Atiim
Titans of Phoenix
15548
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Posted - 2015.02.10 14:28:00 -
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robin williams' ghost wrote:Here you guys go again. Assuming you know how trading is going to work....
I already know how trading is going to work.
The 1st Matari Commando
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Justicar Karnellia
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
943
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Posted - 2015.02.10 14:32:00 -
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robin williams' ghost wrote:Here you guys go again. Assuming you know how trading is going to work....
I just bounced off what CCP's prediction on trading is going to be:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2618245#post2618245
Of course we won't know the final mechanics until it's live, but chances are it won't be anything too complicated.
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Justicar Karnellia
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
943
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Posted - 2015.02.10 14:33:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Justicar Karnellia wrote:
Thanks for putting a price on it. Just out of interest, in theory the buyer and seller both pay 10%?
[quote=Justicar Karnellia]so for the sake of argument, I want to give someone a Dren Shotgun BPO (which i have a few of!), and want a uplink BPO in return, we'd each pay our 10% of what we are selling or what we are buying? Also, how are BPO's priced in ISK - You just take the BPC ISK price?
Nope, just the seller. I was originally going to make it the buyer but I figured it'd be better if I made the seller pay since they could simply add on the 10% price to the negotiated price. For item barters however, both parties would pay the 10%. And the case of a BPO, it would simply be the Base ISK Price multiplied by 5. So, your Dren Shotgun would cost around 50k to send. APEX's however, will simply cost 100k to transfer.
That sounds pretty reasonable actually. The new meta will be enjoyable. I have just an immense amount of stuff to trade/sell. The middlemen "market" will also develop it's own pricing and mechanisms. Props to you for putting yourself out there.
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robin williams' ghost
whisky tango foxtrot sir
843
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Posted - 2015.02.10 14:36:00 -
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Atiim wrote:robin williams' ghost wrote:Here you guys go again. Assuming you know how trading is going to work.... I already know how trading is going to work.
I doubt even ccp knows exactly how it's going to work yet.
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Lavallois Nash
479
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Posted - 2015.02.10 14:40:00 -
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Justicar Karnellia wrote:
I imagine of course the mechanism would work roughly like this:
1) Both parties agree on what to trade/buy/sell and which middleman to work through
2) Both parties send items/isk to middleman
3) Middleman confirms with both parties what they are going to receive and commission he is going to take.
4) Both parties say OK
5) Middleman completes exchange
6) Both parties very wow, much happy.
Looking forward to trading with you all.
This is how I intend to do things once trading comes online and my brokerage company can flex its potential. The idea being that even if the trade was "not as described" , for example, the item differs slightly then what was described, well, as middleman, ill be able to cancel the trade and send the parties back their stuff if they decline based on the new information.
Also, dont forget, its not the day after the feature that i will be middlemanning BPO trades. Infact, i think everyone should sit on their BPOs until enough of a market develops that reliable worth pricing can be achieved.
im going to take you down as a contact though, as if you have a vast inventory that you are looking to sell and trade, thats something that could interest me down the line. |
Lavallois Nash
479
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Posted - 2015.02.10 14:41:00 -
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robin williams' ghost wrote:Atiim wrote:robin williams' ghost wrote:Here you guys go again. Assuming you know how trading is going to work.... I already know how trading is going to work. I doubt even ccp knows exactly how it's going to work yet.
CCP Rattati wrote:Simple Trading as I define it is
go to item in assets
press X
send item to Contact (not player)
select qty
send
are you sure
yes
CCP Rattati wrote:This will create a market for middlemen, friends trading stuff they don't want and the ability to send to CEO, who distributes based on need for PC.
Better ways to trade are obviously known. They either depend on both being on the server for handshake, send item claim in email, which requires major backend work, or auction houses which is a huge undertaking.
This simple method allows trading to happen, at all and I would rather spend a part of our resources on other features.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=190676
Have a look for yourself |
Ku Shala
UNITED MERCINARY AND PILOTS ALLIANCE
1219
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Posted - 2015.02.10 14:44:00 -
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Jadek where are you?
-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä (CK-0 Specialist)
Caldari Loyalist
Superior technology will privale.
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Wilhelm Klingspor
DUST University
Ivy League
668
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Posted - 2015.02.10 14:50:00 -
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IGÇÖll be the middleman for 3.5% of the transaction sum.
2.5% for gigantic transactions.
As an added bonus i promise Faction themed wrapping paper!
Nothing says i love you like a pair of KuboCannons in Quafe wrapping paper.
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J0LLY R0G3R
And the ButtPirates
2091
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Posted - 2015.02.10 14:55:00 -
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I got this
TLDR : I lied, I have at least 3 more.
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