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Shutter Fly wrote:

ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:

Timtron Victory wrote:

Reload speed and stack your HP as you will need to reload. Aim for the head and flux first or throw a grenade as you shoot

I'll upgrade my reload then.

Believe me, it doesn't help much. The reload on the BSG is too long to rely on, even with Reload and Commando lv5.

I doubt there are many people who have put more time into the Breach SG than I have, considering I used it almost exclusively from its introduction in beta until the release of Uprising 1.0. It's significantly different now, the only thing about it that hasn't changed is the reload, and you HAVE TO get the kill with your two shots.

I've used it off and on since Uprising, and I've used it effectively on a few fittings. First of all, the Commando isn't worth it. You can reduce the reload time, but you can't increase the fire rate, which is also agonizingly slow. A Commando is a huge, slow, and relatively squishy target, you'll be dead before you get two shots off (keep in mind, low RoF means slow weapon swaps).

Instead, put it on a Gal Scout or Min Assault, with 1-2 DMs, and enough tank to take a hit, but still stay mobile. Any more than 2 DMs is just wasting valuable HP, and you're going to need it. Anything less than the ADV Breach isn't worth it, since alpha is priority one. For your sidearm, go with either a Breach SMG or a Breach ScP; you need something that can deal good damage in a short amount of time, but still hold up on its own.

I'll end with one final, obvious note: DON'T ******* MISS.

Proud owner of 4 proto commandos and 3 proto sentinels. All except amarr sent, its a beginner heavy tbh.:p

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ACT1ON BASTARD Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 464	Posted - 2015.02.10 08:57:00 - [1] - Quote Maybe a cal scout w 3 dmg mods, not sure if thatd take down a heavy fast enough. Maybe qq to Ccp for buff, at least on the horendous reload time. I feel I can make this into a real power weapon for stomping gallente scum, w your help.:D Proud owner of 4 proto commandos and 3 proto sentinels. All except amarr sent, its a beginner heavy tbh.:p
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 22046	Posted - 2015.02.10 09:10:00 - [2] - Quote Another terrible squid wrote: I feel I can make this into a real power weapon for stomping gallente scum >anti-shield weapon I suppose it is too much to expect the squids to understand damage profiles. :Bittervetting intensifies:
Lynn Beck Delta Vanguard 6 2370	Posted - 2015.02.10 09:10:00 - [3] - Quote Gallente Commando, Reload 5, dmg mod and burst AR as backup, kincats for days, or reactives. Also cry to self every night on how you end up.punching people to death more often than shotgunning them General John Ripper -BAM! I'm Emeril Lagasse. This message was approved by the 'Nobody Loved You' Foundation'
ACT1ON BASTARD Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 464	Posted - 2015.02.10 09:28:00 - [4] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Another terrible squid wrote: I feel I can make this into a real power weapon for stomping gallente scum >anti-shield weapon I suppose it is too much to expect the squids to understand damage profiles. Like it matters when I have 3 highs for damage. Also lul at gallentes inferior reps.:p Proud owner of 4 proto commandos and 3 proto sentinels. All except amarr sent, its a beginner heavy tbh.:p
hold that Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 619	Posted - 2015.02.10 11:24:00 - [5] - Quote there is no way, two shots only is dumb esp in a game with so much hit detection problems.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 7419	Posted - 2015.02.10 11:32:00 - [6] - Quote The Breach Shotgun works when you have good hit detection. Unfortunately good hit detection in Dust is difficult to achieve. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Timtron Victory Horizons' Edge 334	Posted - 2015.02.10 13:04:00 - [7] - Quote Reload speed and stack your HP as you will need to reload. Aim for the head and flux first or throw a grenade as you shoot ISK Weekly Lottery Proud Christian Jesus Loves You
ACT1ON BASTARD Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 465	Posted - 2015.02.10 19:08:00 - [8] - Quote Timtron Victory wrote: Reload speed and stack your HP as you will need to reload. Aim for the head and flux first or throw a grenade as you shoot I'll upgrade my reload then. Proud owner of 4 proto commandos and 3 proto sentinels. All except amarr sent, its a beginner heavy tbh.:p
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 2089	Posted - 2015.02.10 19:37:00 - [9] - Quote It would be awesome if they'd just decrease the base reload time on the BSG. It's fcking ridiculous how long it takes to put two shells in the damn thing. What are they, solid platinum slugs? Take your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty hipster! [RYJC]
PARKOUR PRACTIONER G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 2528	Posted - 2015.02.10 20:22:00 - [10] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: It would be awesome if they'd just decrease the base reload time on the BSG. It's fcking ridiculous how long it takes to put two shells in the damn thing. What are they, solid platinum slugs? I think of them as these to save the rage. Recon is an Art Anything you can do a NINJA* can do better* Am skater & parkour practitioner

ACT1ON BASTARD Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 465	Posted - 2015.02.10 22:18:00 - [11] - Quote Bump Proud owner of 4 proto commandos and 3 proto sentinels. All except amarr sent, its a beginner heavy tbh.:p
Shutter Fly Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 512	Posted - 2015.02.10 22:49:00 - [12] - Quote ACT1ON BASTARD wrote: Timtron Victory wrote: Reload speed and stack your HP as you will need to reload. Aim for the head and flux first or throw a grenade as you shoot I'll upgrade my reload then. Believe me, it doesn't help much. The reload on the BSG is too long to rely on, even with Reload and Commando lv5. I doubt there are many people who have put more time into the Breach SG than I have, considering I used it almost exclusively from its introduction in beta until the release of Uprising 1.0. It's significantly different now, the only thing about it that hasn't changed is the reload, and you HAVE TO get the kill with your two shots. I've used it off and on since Uprising, and I've used it effectively on a few fittings. First of all, the Commando isn't worth it. You can reduce the reload time, but you can't increase the fire rate, which is also agonizingly slow. A Commando is a huge, slow, and relatively squishy target, you'll be dead before you get two shots off (keep in mind, low RoF means slow weapon swaps). Instead, put it on a Gal Scout or Min Assault, with 1-2 DMs, and enough tank to take a hit, but still stay mobile. Any more than 2 DMs is just wasting valuable HP, and you're going to need it. Anything less than the ADV Breach isn't worth it, since alpha is priority one. For your sidearm, go with either a Breach SMG or a Breach ScP; you need something that can deal good damage in a short amount of time, but still hold up on its own. I'll end with one final, obvious note: DON'T ******* MISS.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 3209	Posted - 2015.02.10 23:54:00 - [13] - Quote Real men use PLCs with breach shotties on a GalCommie. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
ACT1ON BASTARD Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 465	Posted - 2015.02.11 07:02:00 - [14] - Quote Shutter Fly wrote: ACT1ON BASTARD wrote: Timtron Victory wrote: Reload speed and stack your HP as you will need to reload. Aim for the head and flux first or throw a grenade as you shoot I'll upgrade my reload then. Believe me, it doesn't help much. The reload on the BSG is too long to rely on, even with Reload and Commando lv5. I doubt there are many people who have put more time into the Breach SG than I have, considering I used it almost exclusively from its introduction in beta until the release of Uprising 1.0. It's significantly different now, the only thing about it that hasn't changed is the reload, and you HAVE TO get the kill with your two shots. I've used it off and on since Uprising, and I've used it effectively on a few fittings. First of all, the Commando isn't worth it. You can reduce the reload time, but you can't increase the fire rate, which is also agonizingly slow. A Commando is a huge, slow, and relatively squishy target, you'll be dead before you get two shots off (keep in mind, low RoF means slow weapon swaps). Instead, put it on a Gal Scout or Min Assault, with 1-2 DMs, and enough tank to take a hit, but still stay mobile. Any more than 2 DMs is just wasting valuable HP, and you're going to need it. Anything less than the ADV Breach isn't worth it, since alpha is priority one. For your sidearm, go with either a Breach SMG or a Breach ScP; you need something that can deal good damage in a short amount of time, but still hold up on its own. I'll end with one final, obvious note: DON'T ******* MISS. Best advice yet. Proud owner of 4 proto commandos and 3 proto sentinels. All except amarr sent, its a beginner heavy tbh.:p
Most Sneakiest F0RSAKEN EMPIRE. 46	Posted - 2015.03.23 06:51:00 - [15] - Quote If this wasn't a thread specifically titled about advice for making them "work" I'd just give the good advice and tell you not to use one. Noob [Kaalakiota Sniper Rifle] Most Sneakiest A few kills later... Most Sneakiest [Militia Sniper Rifle] Noob
VAHZZ 1002	Posted - 2015.03.23 06:53:00 - [16] - Quote Don't be a scrub. Best advice anyone can give. *BRUH.* Closed Beta Vet
Vyzion Eyri WarRavens 2652	Posted - 2015.03.23 08:36:00 - [17] - Quote I've started using the advanced breach shotty and oh my god, getting headshots on people hacking points is the most glorious feeling you will ever get, especially if they're in a prototype suit. On my cloaky scout and the way I play 2 shots is more than enough, and it teaches me to be more accurate with my initial shots anyway. On any other shotgun, if I miss my first two shots I'm probably dead anyway, so with a breach at least I make them count. Missing both shots doesn't necessarily spell death. If you caught the guy by surprise, he/she will probably backpedal and try find you, meaning you have time to cloak up and run. With a typical shotgun, you'd probably stay around and get killed. I've been loving the breach SG, works really well with my cloaky playstyle. If anything, reduce fitting cost slightly. > Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
axis alpha Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 702	Posted - 2015.03.23 08:39:00 - [18] - Quote =ƒÆÅ=ƒÆæ=ƒæ¬=ƒæ½=ƒæ¼=ƒæ¡=ƒæ«=ƒÿ¦=ƒÿ+=ƒÖë=ƒÖè=ƒÖê=ƒÿƒ=ƒÿ¿=ƒÿ¦=ƒÿ¦=ƒÿ¦=ƒÜ¦=ƒÜ+=ƒ¢é I cut you up so bad.... You gonna wish I no cut you up so bad.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 1854	Posted - 2015.03.23 08:45:00 - [19] - Quote VAHZZ wrote: Don't be a scrub. Best advice anyone can give. Don't scrub a bee. It angers them. Crush them
Reign Omega T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1353	Posted - 2015.03.23 09:13:00 - [20] - Quote Wants to use the gallente shotgun To eradicate Gallente scum PotKettle Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....

hails8n DEATH BY DESTRUCTION 116	Posted - 2015.05.02 00:50:00 - [21] - Quote Put it on a min assault, 2 dmg mods. Petition to ban the trainyard map.
Ralden Caster Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 211	Posted - 2015.05.02 01:07:00 - [22] - Quote ACT1ON BASTARD wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Another terrible squid wrote: I feel I can make this into a real power weapon for stomping gallente scum >anti-shield weapon I suppose it is too much to expect the squids to understand damage profiles. Like it matters when I have 3 highs for damage. Also lul at gallentes inferior reps.:p O_o "I am frequently misquoted." -Aeon Amadi Welcome to my TIME MACHINE!


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