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Yokal Bob
State of Purgatory
General Tso's Alliance
850
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Posted - 2015.02.08 08:10:00 -
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They hardly carry nanite injectors
You can find most stuck on a heavys fat *** oblivious to anyone else
Most carry shoddy uplinks that they stick anywhere, on ambush its wherever they first spawn (so we constantly spawn around it most of the time (stupid smart-i-wish deploy))
Its so rare to find a proper logi nowadays -_-
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
General Tso's Alliance
487
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Posted - 2015.02.08 08:16:00 -
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I normally run nothing but full proto when I pull out a logi suit, use the republic boundless rep so I get 2 links c: Of course I also have those fancy -%20 timer uplinks as well.
The main problem I find, are the ones who are actually carrying needles that walk over your corpse, what's the point of having a needle if your not looking to stick someone with it? D:
As well as those matches where I have to hang up my other suits just to put uplinks for the whole team, there needs to be a logi school :c
G.L.O.R.Y Soldier,
I'm that Amarr heavy you warn your team about <3
-Heavy/Logi/Assault/Scout-
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jane stalin
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
136
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Posted - 2015.02.08 08:18:00 -
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When I read a similar post about 3 weeks ago I did actually change my ways,
I used to only use my apex logis because I really liked deciding how to swap them
but I have started putting out better uplinks ,
I usually carry injectors but they are annoying as hell, either literally nobody calls for help or get newbs calling for help so you run towards them, an then changing their mind, it does result in you getting a bit shot up for nothing.
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Yokal Bob
State of Purgatory
General Tso's Alliance
850
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Posted - 2015.02.08 08:23:00 -
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jane stalin wrote:When I read a similar post about 3 weeks ago I did actually change my ways,
I used to only use my apex logis because I really liked deciding how to swap them
but I have started putting out better uplinks ,
I usually carry injectors but they are annoying as hell, either literally nobody calls for help or get newbs calling for help so you run towards them, an then changing their mind, it does result in you getting a bit shot up for nothing.
Aye it can be annoying, but it might also be the bleed-out timer as well. I miss the days of just picking people up. I only did it when safe to do so or if I knew they had a high chance of getting away, but Ambushes were more interesting in those days. You had to shoot the corpse after you killed it. Now you can just leave it (saving ammo), and they will not be picked up.
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Meee One
Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki
1491
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Posted - 2015.02.08 11:45:00 -
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Yokal Bob wrote:They hardly carry nanite injectors
You can find most stuck on a heavys fat *** oblivious to anyone else
Most carry shoddy uplinks that they stick anywhere, on ambush its wherever they first spawn (so we constantly spawn around it most of the time (stupid smart-i-wish deploy))
Its so rare to find a proper logi nowadays -_-
>QQrs can easily throw away clones with no drawbacks just as they wanted,and this happens a lot.
>With logistics suits having low survival unless they brick tank,heavies become the only suits logistics can keep up with,in terms of speed.
Since costs of these (logistics) suits are usually 2x those of better surviving suits (assaults),logistics stay where they feel safest to protect that hefty investment. (Around suits with 1k + eHP,aka heavies)
>Other suits can carry equipment too.
As most have exclaimed in joy about,logistics typically requires a squad.
No other suit in the game does.
So until logistics can solo like literally everyone else can,these things will never change.
Official Blueberry of the Forums.
Title given by my #1 fan Sgt Kirk.
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Billi Gene
526
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Posted - 2015.02.08 11:56:00 -
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medic=needle
logi usually rep tool but not always.
"how to troll a medic:
1. get the attention of a roving squad of slayers.
2. pull them towards a logistics repping from safety.
3. die 4m from cover.
4. call for a revive.
5. wait for medic to approach.
6. respawn on an uplink.
7. watch kill feed.
8. post on forums about fail logi's."
Pedant, Ape, Troll.
My Beard makes Alpha's sook :P
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demonkiller 12
State of Purgatory
General Tso's Alliance
597
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Posted - 2015.02.08 11:58:00 -
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Yokal Bob wrote:They hardly carry nanite injectors
You can find most stuck on a heavys fat *** oblivious to anyone else
Most carry shoddy uplinks that they stick anywhere, on ambush its wherever they first spawn (so we constantly spawn around it most of the time (stupid smart-i-wish deploy))
Its so rare to find a proper logi nowadays -_-
i do, but im going to stop, the only people who ever X up are squad mates and half the time theyre in the open so i cant and the other half times the needle bugs and either i stab them and nothing happens or you cant stab them at all |
xavier zor
nos nothi
609
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Posted - 2015.02.08 12:57:00 -
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My logi fit:
Caldari Logistics ck.0:
Boundless CR
Core locus grenades
Wyrkomi triage hives
Ishokune gauged hives
Wyrkomi nanite injector
basic CPU upgrade
3 comples reactive plates
5 enhanced shield extenders
801 eHp, throw down rep hives and slay while you repair!
also handy for core locus grenade spam
new home <3
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LHughes
State of Purgatory
General Tso's Alliance
325
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Posted - 2015.02.08 14:35:00 -
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Yokal Bob wrote:They hardly carry nanite injectors
You can find most stuck on a heavys fat *** oblivious to anyone else
Most carry shoddy uplinks that they stick anywhere, on ambush its wherever they first spawn (so we constantly spawn around it most of the time (stupid smart-i-wish deploy))
Its so rare to find a proper logi nowadays -_-
repping should be a maximum of 50WP per person per minute.
Would stop people sticking on someones arse getting more WP than me when I'm logi'ing in bush with ULs, hives, & scans and getting 20+ kills.
Repping takes the p*ss
That moment when you walk in on Rattati in the shower but he hasn't undressed yet
He's such a tease xx
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Pagl1u M
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
1456
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Posted - 2015.02.08 14:42:00 -
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Meee One wrote:
Since costs of these (logistics) suits are usually 2x those of better surviving suits (assaults)
Bullshit! show me the prices or stop using random math to prove your points.
One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
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H0riz0n Unlimit
Dead Man's Game
433
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Posted - 2015.02.08 16:11:00 -
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Pagl1u M wrote:Meee One wrote:
Since costs of these (logistics) suits are usually 2x those of better surviving suits (assaults)
Bullshit! show me the prices or stop using random math to prove your points.
Mine logi is 270k isk, your assault? I got proto nanite injector, scanner, rep tool and uplinks
Welcome to Aurlord 1.0. Building a vayu in my garage, waiting for aurlord 1.1 soon(tm)
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TritusX
PH4NT0M5
245
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Posted - 2015.02.08 16:16:00 -
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You know what is bullcrap though? When I do put on needles, I run around, see guys even from my own squad go down, and don't press X to get help. I"M IN YOUR SQUAD! NO ONE WANTS ME TO HELP?? So then I just ditch it and put a nanohive
Forced Death
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1124
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Posted - 2015.02.08 16:22:00 -
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Yokal Bob wrote:jane stalin wrote:When I read a similar post about 3 weeks ago I did actually change my ways,
I used to only use my apex logis because I really liked deciding how to swap them
but I have started putting out better uplinks ,
I usually carry injectors but they are annoying as hell, either literally nobody calls for help or get newbs calling for help so you run towards them, an then changing their mind, it does result in you getting a bit shot up for nothing.
Aye it can be annoying, but it might also be the bleed-out timer as well. I miss the days of just picking people up. I only did it when safe to do so or if I knew they had a high chance of getting away, but Ambushes were more interesting in those days. You had to shoot the corpse after you killed it. Now you can just leave it (saving ammo), and they will not be picked up.
I think the issue is needles just are not worth puttin on the fit anymore. Personally, I always call for help when I'm killed unless I'm out of ammo. I put a needle on my first sprint scout suit recently since the cloak is rarely used by me these days even though it's still on most of my suits. I find I almost never get a chance to use it. I think in about 30 matches since the change I've needled maybe once or twice.
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Skullmiser Vulcansu
293
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Posted - 2015.02.08 16:28:00 -
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I felt a little offended recently when someone incredulously asked how I could be a medic without a nanite injector.
Logistics is not the same as medic.
Why don't YOU carry a nanite injector, Yokal Bob?
Why should I? I'm way more likely to be a target than any other suit.
I have Uplinks. Uplinks and an injector together seem redundant to me. The Uplink seems more useful, because people who are exploded can't be injected anyway.
I do agree though that it's stupid to have a repair tool on someone when they have full shields and armor. I've seen that way too often. I don't do that because I can't rely on my team mates to be able to kill anyone. In the cases in which I accompanied a sentinel, I have killed scouts that would have been the bane of us should I have had a repair tool out.
I solo well. I realize that I'm probably atypical.
The logistics suit I most often use in public matches is as follows:
A/1
Advanced Laser, Breach Scrambler, Advanced Packed AV Grenade.
Advanced Flux Uplink, K-17 D Nano Hive, BDR-8 Triage Repair Tool.
Enhanced Precision Enhancer, Enhanced Shield Extender, Enhanced Shield Extender.
Enhanced Profile Dampener, Enhanced Reactive Plate, Enhanced Reactive Plate.
If this game was fun, I wouldn't be playing it.
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Vektus Alvoraan
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
49
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Posted - 2015.02.08 16:34:00 -
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Pagl1u M wrote:Meee One wrote:
Since costs of these (logistics) suits are usually 2x those of better surviving suits (assaults)
Bullshit! show me the prices or stop using random math to prove your points.
290k, Proto ACR, Proto Repper, Proto needle, Proto Uplink, Proto Hive, Enhanced Damage Mods, Complex and enhanced reactive and ferroscale plates. Never ***** about your proto assault suit costs, because it'll never come close to a logi's investment. It's always been like this. Equipment prices are through the roof.
DUST 514 Closed Beta Vet - Humble logibro, at your service.
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7th Son 7
BLITZKRIEG7
479
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Posted - 2015.02.08 16:43:00 -
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Yokal Bob wrote:They hardly carry nanite injectors
You can find most stuck on a heavys fat *** oblivious to anyone else
Most carry shoddy uplinks that they stick anywhere, on ambush its wherever they first spawn (so we constantly spawn around it most of the time (stupid smart-i-wish deploy))
Its so rare to find a proper logi nowadays -_-
First of all, even assaults and scouts can equip rep tools, so they can also be accused of following heavies. Second in pub matches without a squad NOBODY asks to be revived anymore. Third their probably just a bad logi.
Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy if possible........--- Stonewall Jackson
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robin williams' ghost
whisky tango foxtrot sir
826
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Posted - 2015.02.08 17:07:00 -
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I call b.s. on the guys saying their logi suit cost 250-300k
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Pagl1u M
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
1457
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Posted - 2015.02.08 17:10:00 -
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H0riz0n Unlimit wrote:Pagl1u M wrote:Meee One wrote:
Since costs of these (logistics) suits are usually 2x those of better surviving suits (assaults)
Bullshit! show me the prices or stop using random math to prove your points. Mine logi is 270k isk, your assault? I got proto nanite injector, scanner, rep tool and uplinks
My assault costs 190k, the 2x of 190k is 380k. Learn to math.
One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
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Pagl1u M
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
1457
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Posted - 2015.02.08 17:31:00 -
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Vektus Alvoraan wrote:Pagl1u M wrote:Meee One wrote:
Since costs of these (logistics) suits are usually 2x those of better surviving suits (assaults)
Bullshit! show me the prices or stop using random math to prove your points. 290k, Proto ACR, Proto Repper, Proto needle, Proto Uplink, Proto Hive, Enhanced Damage Mods, Complex and enhanced reactive and ferroscale plates. Never ***** about your proto assault suit costs, because it'll never come close to a logi's investment. It's always been like this. Equipment prices are through the roof.
Again Bullshit! I fitted a minlogi with only proto modules, Pro ACR, Core locus nades, pro uplinks, rep tool, hive and needle (the ones that cost most) and it costs 250k and is also unavailable because PG and CPU (with all skills to 5).
Stop spamming random numbers to prove your points.
One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
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Vektus Alvoraan
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
51
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Posted - 2015.02.08 17:40:00 -
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Pagl1u M wrote:Vektus Alvoraan wrote:Pagl1u M wrote:Meee One wrote:
Since costs of these (logistics) suits are usually 2x those of better surviving suits (assaults)
Bullshit! show me the prices or stop using random math to prove your points. 290k, Proto ACR, Proto Repper, Proto needle, Proto Uplink, Proto Hive, Enhanced Damage Mods, Complex and enhanced reactive and ferroscale plates. Never ***** about your proto assault suit costs, because it'll never come close to a logi's investment. It's always been like this. Equipment prices are through the roof. Again Bullshit! I fitted a minlogi with only proto modules, Pro ACR, Core locus nades, pro uplinks, rep tool, hive and needle (the ones that cost most) and it costs 250k and is also unavailable because PG and CPU (with all skills to 5). Stop spamming random numbers to prove your points.
Numbers might have been slightly inflated, don't run proto logi as often. But the point still stands. These larger numbers stack up faster and more often on us, as even when tanking the **** out of the suit, we still become target number one. Out of a whole room filled with heavies, assaults and scouts, they targeted the little yellow dude with the red eyes and expensive ****. When my deaths in a proto suit pass 2-3, time to whip out my "Shaman" logi to try and save my paycheck.
DUST 514 Closed Beta Vet - Humble logibro, at your service.
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
712
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Posted - 2015.02.08 18:00:00 -
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When I run Logi... I hate everyone else.
When I run a needle on my Commando... I hate everyone that dies, you either wait half an hour to bleed out, or you wait until I've given up on you to ask for help, or you're all just oblivious to me being there.
And hardly anyone else ever carries a needle, but everyone is happy to ***** about no one else carrying a needle.
My advice, carry a needle. |
Mex-0
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
353
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Posted - 2015.02.08 18:04:00 -
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I hate uplinks where it take more than ten seconds to spawn in.
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Meee One
Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki
1494
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Posted - 2015.02.09 14:34:00 -
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Pagl1u M wrote:Meee One wrote:
Since costs of these (logistics) suits are usually 2x those of better surviving suits (assaults)
Bullshit! show me the prices or stop using random math to prove your points.
Pagl1u M wrote:
My assault costs 190k, the 2x of 190k is 380k. Learn to math.
Prices with just equipment.
http://www.protofits.com/fittings/view/0/7831
60k less than your full fitting.
With 0 modules,0 weapons,less speed,stamina and eHP.
So we can either nitpick the 2x comment or realize it costs logistics more than assaults to die faster.
Grow up,the adults are talking.
Official Blueberry of the Forums.
Title given by my #1 fan Sgt Kirk.
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Ku Shala
UNITED MERCINARY AND PILOTS ALLIANCE
1218
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:01:00 -
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so we are trying to discourage the low volume of logis yet again? my adv shield tanked cal logi has 565 ehp with full skills there are scouts running around with more than that, I am the first target. when you run out into the open and die if I dont sacrafice my expensive suit to pick you up you cry like a child that just dropped his quafe on the warbarge.nobody else on the field carrys a needle to pick up the down logi that just died to save your biomass (my corp and some skilled players excluded). your going to complain about links how many did you put down? Im going to troll you if your ever down
Shala out
-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä (CK-0 Specialist)
Caldari Loyalist
Superior technology will privale.
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lee corwood
Knights Of Ender
RISE of LEGION
1170
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:11:00 -
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I hate people who ***** and moan on the forums about how there are no logis on the field to pick up your expensive suits but logis are expected to die in their expensive suit with no expectation of a revive as a role requirement.
Additionally, a nanite injector is a piece of EQ with no racial/logi tied bonuses because it was meant to be used by EVERYBODY.
If you're so pissed that logi's are supposedly not around, start running one, get the +30/60/90 yourself and see how few people actually call out for help.
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Aidualc
LATINOS KILLERS CORP
Dark Taboo
56
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:17:00 -
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The problem with the "nano" is the are so many assaults-scouts-sentinels throwing pineapples... 1 nano = only 2 granades, even proto nano... so stop throwing Core-granade for cheapest kills..
I run proto logi in my squad only in BC or if anyone else got needle... I hate when I stab to many bluberries but if I got down and I ask for help... there is no other needle in the field...
That's the reason why always run Federation Chirion Logi. |
Al the destroyer
0uter.Heaven
247
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:32:00 -
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lee corwood wrote:I hate people who ***** and moan on the forums about how there are no logis on the field to pick up your expensive suits but logis are expected to die in their expensive suit with no expectation of a revive as a role requirement.
Additionally, a nanite injector is a piece of EQ with no racial/logi tied bonuses because it was meant to be used by EVERYBODY.
If you're so pissed that logi's are supposedly not around, start running one, get the +30/60/90 yourself and see how few people actually call out for help.
100% agreed I usually always carry a needle but no one calls for it. Plus the way the game has gone a lot of ppl just want to spawn back in a better location.
The sauce will thicken...... as you like.
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RayRay James
State of Purgatory
General Tso's Alliance
987
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Posted - 2015.02.09 16:28:00 -
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robin williams' ghost wrote:I call b.s. on the guys saying their logi suit cost 250-300k
My full proto gal logi is 268K
My proto suit / adv everything else gal logi is 111K |
robin williams' ghost
whisky tango foxtrot sir
835
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Posted - 2015.02.09 16:34:00 -
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RayRay James wrote:robin williams' ghost wrote:I call b.s. on the guys saying their logi suit cost 250-300k
My full proto gal logi is 268K My proto suit / adv everything else gal logi is 111K
What are you running?
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Michael Epic
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
448
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Posted - 2015.02.09 16:36:00 -
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Yokal Bob wrote:They hardly carry nanite injectors
You can find most stuck on a heavys fat *** oblivious to anyone else
Most carry shoddy uplinks that they stick anywhere, on ambush its wherever they first spawn (so we constantly spawn around it most of the time (stupid smart-i-wish deploy))
Its so rare to find a proper logi nowadays -_-
What exactly is a "proper" logi anyway? Your proper logi is an opinion....take for example, me.
I'm a long lost style player in this game referred to as "Combat Logi" or "Battle Logi" which means I carry lots of tanky ferroscale plating, lots of tanky complex shield extenders and roll around on the battlefield with 967EHP, right?
But I also carry a rep tool and a nanite injector, along with an entire suite of RE's (two different types!) a proto AR (Duvolle) and a flux grenade to wipe out YOUR re's or drop your fat heavy shields so I can mow you down with my Duvolle AR.
So not only am I out there kicking ass and taking names, but when you get your ass kicked and want help I'll pull out my needle, stab you in the eye socket, bring you back to life and then repair you until your armor is healed and kick you in the ass and send you on your way.
So it can be argued because I'm one of the last die hard "Combat Logis" that I am not a "proper logi" BUT I carry a nanite injector so you would call me a "proper logi"
The whole idea of "proper logi" is ambiguous at best. |
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