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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.02.06 01:46:00 -
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It has gotten to the point where the Caldari have to awox the enemy side just so they can get a win.
The majority of our matches for the Gallente have resulted in wins but the few ones that we did lose were not the result of a Q'sync like you'd expect. It was a Sync in another way though, Z 13 and his buddies in Z platoon will create a fake squad of new players (as evidence by NPC corps and very low or no stats at all) and queue up for Gallente while they queue for Caldari Faction Warfare. This results in the opposition being extremely undermanned and lacking the infantry to take and hold objectives by having 6 players purposely AFK meanwhile they will have a full squad or even two full squads. This shows us the extreme measures the Caldari have to go through to make up for their severe lack of Strategy and Skill.
These are not the normal AFK player, these are intentional AFK made accounts as spotted by their NPC corps and incredibly non existent low WP, Kills, Deaths or just none at all.
Sabotage, bribery and other forms of undermining the enemy team are fine by me, but there's nothing you can do about AFK players, you will get kicked if you keep killing them, a loophole caused by CCP's friendly fire punishment mechanic. This kind of Awoxing should be punishable or at the very least be stomped out ASAP.
Z platoon, if you keep this up you are going to do nothing but start an AFK war that nobody wants to fight and if absolutely ridiculous. You guys aren't the only ones with access to reserve PS3s.
Stop this cowardice at once or else.
Vote 'Keshava' for the new Gallente HAV name!
~Democracy will win!
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy
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Posted - 2015.02.06 01:48:00 -
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Inb4 valid tactic
Inb4 HTFU
(Please don't hurt me)
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2015.02.06 01:49:00 -
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Do I hear minimum sp requirement?
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.02.06 01:50:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Do I hear minimum sp requirement? That would help tremendously with this issue.
Vote 'Keshava' for the new Gallente HAV name!
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy
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Posted - 2015.02.06 01:52:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Do I hear minimum sp requirement? True. This would be good.
Only CCP will never implement it, as it would go against their "APEX iz for newbros" and if they go against it, it will expose their AUR milking ways.
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Lac Nokomis
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.06 01:59:00 -
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If we keep talking about it I feel we'll come up with something that will help. We need something that obviously won't take alot of dev manpower (Holds back sigh).
Is there a certain SP or WP threshold that would allow new-ish players to get into FW but cause it to take time? What are some numbers? |
Auld Syne
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Posted - 2015.02.06 02:37:00 -
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Lac Nokomis wrote:If we keep talking about it I feel we'll come up with something that will help. We need something that obviously won't take alot of dev manpower (Holds back sigh).
Is there a certain SP or WP threshold that would allow new-ish players to get into FW but cause it to take time? What are some numbers? A SP minimum and WP minimum would be the most beneficial to this issue. I hadn't run into this ever as a Minmatar but then again the Amarr player have more integrity than the Caldari do... even if they come off as elitist.
o7 cheers to getting this problem sorted out mate. |
jNs Vit4l
Random Gunz RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.02.06 02:42:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:It has gotten to the point where the Caldari have to awox the enemy side just so they can get a win.
The majority of our matches for the Gallente have resulted in wins but the few ones that we did lose were not the result of a Q'sync like you'd expect. It was a Sync in another way though, Z 13 and his buddies in Z platoon will create a fake squad of new accounts (as evidence by NPC corps and very low or no stats at all) and queue up for Gallente while they queue for Caldari Faction Warfare. This results in the opposition being extremely undermanned and lacking the infantry to take and hold objectives by having 6 players purposely AFK meanwhile they will have a full squad or even two full squads. This shows us the extreme measures the Caldari have to go through to make up for their severe lack of Strategy and Skill.
These are not the normal AFK player, these are intentional AFK made accounts as spotted by their NPC corps and incredibly non existent low WP, Kills, Deaths or just none at all.
Sabotage, bribery and other forms of undermining the enemy team are fine by me, but there's nothing you can do about AFK players, you will get kicked if you keep killing them, a loophole caused by CCP's friendly fire punishment mechanic. This kind of Awoxing should be punishable or at the very least be stomped out ASAP.
Z platoon, if you keep this up you are going to do nothing but start an AFK war that nobody wants to fight and is absolutely ridiculous. You guys aren't the only ones with access to reserve PS3s.
Stop this cowardice at once or else.
Hey, you have no idea what you are talking about. I've been running in z platoon since pre 1.7 and whatever you claiming is not true. All we do is qsync in cfw + ob support when available and we protostomp the scrublentes eazy mode since there are so many donators founding our platoon and Z 13 has been sharing the money to all members so all can run proto. QQ more
"God, grand me the serenity to accept the things that I cannot change and the courage to change the things that I can"
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JONAHBENHUR
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
84
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Posted - 2015.02.06 02:42:00 -
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i think an sp minimum would be a great idea for faction warfare. As the cap is 750k pus passive you can get alot of sp quickly as a new player, but as an actual new player not just one created that day to sabotage FW
"To be a man you must have honor, "HONOR AND A PENIS !!" -shinoske noharu
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge
2850
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Posted - 2015.02.06 02:49:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:It has gotten to the point where the Caldari have to awox the enemy side just so they can get a win.
The majority of our matches for the Gallente have resulted in wins but the few ones that we did lose were not the result of a Q'sync like you'd expect. It was a Sync in another way though, Z 13 and his buddies in Z platoon will create a fake squad of new accounts (as evidence by NPC corps and very low or no stats at all) and queue up for Gallente while they queue for Caldari Faction Warfare. This results in the opposition being extremely undermanned and lacking the infantry to take and hold objectives by having 6 players purposely AFK meanwhile they will have a full squad or even two full squads. This shows us the extreme measures the Caldari have to go through to make up for their severe lack of Strategy and Skill.
These are not the normal AFK player, these are intentional AFK made accounts as spotted by their NPC corps and incredibly non existent low WP, Kills, Deaths or just none at all.
Sabotage, bribery and other forms of undermining the enemy team are fine by me, but there's nothing you can do about AFK players, you will get kicked if you keep killing them, a loophole caused by CCP's friendly fire punishment mechanic. This kind of Awoxing should be punishable or at the very least be stomped out ASAP.
Z platoon, if you keep this up you are going to do nothing but start an AFK war that nobody wants to fight and is absolutely ridiculous. You guys aren't the only ones with access to reserve PS3s.
Stop this cowardice at once or else. First, you have AWOXed us a lot more than I can even explain. I do know some Gallente BPO collectors that have been complaining about GFW getting crushed (no offense, the same has happened to us.) and will ask them if these characters are present.
Second, I only Qsync CFW because I always see 3+ of these guys when I do not. Perhaps you should check your own before you point a finger and call a name.
Third, no matter how stupid, annoying, and honourless it may be it is a tactic that can be used, and is used in all FWs. I am not even joking, I have seen this in all FWs. (As I have played all FWs)
Fourth, I thought Z platoon was dead...
Finally, Did you just admit to doing the same? If so I am glad you can be man enough to admit it. If not, was it a gutless threat?
Quoth the Raven "Nevermore!" - Edgar Allan Poe
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge
2850
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Posted - 2015.02.06 02:54:00 -
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Auld Syne wrote:the Amarr player have more integrity than the Caldari do. Did they tell you that?
I rarely see a good AFW team, to the point that CFW randoms (Often AFK alts. *Sigh*) make them look rather... lackluster.
I mean no disrespect, they are a powerful force when together.
Quoth the Raven "Nevermore!" - Edgar Allan Poe
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.02.06 02:55:00 -
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I have a thread saying I'd pay people to screw with the Caldari in FW but that was ages ago when FW was in the early days and honestly didn't care for the thread after it was clear that we didn't even need to screw with you guys.
Z platoon and it's members still travel around the same pack while it may not be in the same form I still consider that pack to be Z platoon or whatever they want to call themselves now.
To your last point no, I'm telling you that we will start doing this to you if this keeps up. Upgrade your greymatter and learn to read.
Vote 'Keshava' for the new Gallente HAV name!
~Democracy will win!
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Mobius Wyvern
Sky-FIRE
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Posted - 2015.02.06 02:55:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:It has gotten to the point where the Caldari have to awox the enemy side just so they can get a win.
The majority of our matches for the Gallente have resulted in wins but the few ones that we did lose were not the result of a Q'sync like you'd expect. It was a Sync in another way though, Z 13 and his buddies in Z platoon will create a fake squad of new accounts (as evidence by NPC corps and very low or no stats at all) and queue up for Gallente while they queue for Caldari Faction Warfare. This results in the opposition being extremely undermanned and lacking the infantry to take and hold objectives by having 6 players purposely AFK meanwhile they will have a full squad or even two full squads. This shows us the extreme measures the Caldari have to go through to make up for their severe lack of Strategy and Skill.
These are not the normal AFK player, these are intentional AFK made accounts as spotted by their NPC corps and incredibly non existent low WP, Kills, Deaths or just none at all.
Sabotage, bribery and other forms of undermining the enemy team are fine by me, but there's nothing you can do about AFK players, you will get kicked if you keep killing them, a loophole caused by CCP's friendly fire punishment mechanic. This kind of Awoxing should be punishable or at the very least be stomped out ASAP.
Z platoon, if you keep this up you are going to do nothing but start an AFK war that nobody wants to fight and is absolutely ridiculous. You guys aren't the only ones with access to reserve PS3s.
Stop this cowardice at once or else. It's really disgusting to be Caldari and watch people who claim they represent the Caldari do **** like this.
These guys need a ******* tea party.
I support Keshava for Gallente Specialist HAV
R.I.P. Kesha
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.02.06 07:07:00 -
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I'm surprised you're actually queueing for Gallente Kirk. Given the squids never play, 30 min queues just aren't worth it.
:Bittervetting intensifies:
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ACT1ON BASTARD
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
452
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Posted - 2015.02.06 07:16:00 -
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Lol Z platoon doesn't make fake accounts to awox. Cal gets afkers all the time, doesn't mean they're gallente awox accounts.
Proud owner of 4 proto commandos and 3 proto sentinels. All except amarr sent, its a beginner heavy tbh.:p
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.02.06 07:30:00 -
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ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Lol Z platoon doesn't make fake accounts to awox. Cal gets afkers all the time, doesn't mean they're gallente awox accounts. There's a difference between regular AFK players that everyone gets and these AFKers that are in NPC corps and have very patriotic Caldari names and or troll related names, in addition to having next to no stats.
No, they weren't your average AFK players.
Vote 'Keshava' for the new Gallente HAV name!
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Timtron Victory
Horizons' Edge
307
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Posted - 2015.02.06 07:36:00 -
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Believe the Sergeant everyone, he has more likes than I do and thats pretty "difficult" to accomplish.
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ACT1ON BASTARD
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
452
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Posted - 2015.02.06 07:39:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Lol Z platoon doesn't make fake accounts to awox. Cal gets afkers all the time, doesn't mean they're gallente awox accounts. There's a difference between regular AFK players that everyone gets and these AFKers that are in NPC corps and have very patriotic Caldari names and or troll related names, in addition to having next to no stats. No, they weren't your average AFK players. Ok and, how are you sure they're from Z platoon?
Proud owner of 4 proto commandos and 3 proto sentinels. All except amarr sent, its a beginner heavy tbh.:p
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.02.06 07:40:00 -
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Timtron Victory wrote:Believe the Sergeant everyone, he has more likes than I do and thats pretty "difficult" to accomplish. If that was assuming that my likes are fake I take pride in saying they are 100% legitimate. Believe it or not I have never once taken part in a Like generator thread and I take pride in my amount of likes without boosting.
As for people like Arkena and GJR, we all know what's up.
Vote 'Keshava' for the new Gallente HAV name!
~Democracy will win!
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.02.06 07:41:00 -
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ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Lol Z platoon doesn't make fake accounts to awox. Cal gets afkers all the time, doesn't mean they're gallente awox accounts. There's a difference between regular AFK players that everyone gets and these AFKers that are in NPC corps and have very patriotic Caldari names and or troll related names, in addition to having next to no stats. No, they weren't your average AFK players. Ok and, how are you sure they're from Z platoon? If you've played Caldari warfare for a good while you'd know the members when you see them.
Vote 'Keshava' for the new Gallente HAV name!
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
2104
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Posted - 2015.02.06 07:51:00 -
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Not sure if this is part of a continued smear campaign or valid complaints. I've prettymuch given up on FW - the game mode will forever be broken as long as zero matchmaking, queue-syncing and high-risk / low reward are parts of it. It needs to be overhauled... Again.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
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Timtron Victory
Horizons' Edge
307
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Posted - 2015.02.06 07:54:00 -
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I can work my ass off for the team, get 100WP but still end up with 225 LP, its really not worth it. I would really love to get an Amarr Logi but oh well
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ACT1ON BASTARD
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
452
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Posted - 2015.02.06 07:57:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Lol Z platoon doesn't make fake accounts to awox. Cal gets afkers all the time, doesn't mean they're gallente awox accounts. There's a difference between regular AFK players that everyone gets and these AFKers that are in NPC corps and have very patriotic Caldari names and or troll related names, in addition to having next to no stats. No, they weren't your average AFK players. Ok and, how are you sure they're from Z platoon? If you've played Caldari warfare for a good while you'd know the members when you see them. I dont understarnd your reasoning. Just because Z platoon is the best caldari group doesn't mean every awox account stems from them. Anyways z platoons not going away anytime soon so no bpos for u.=ƒÿó
Proud owner of 4 proto commandos and 3 proto sentinels. All except amarr sent, its a beginner heavy tbh.:p
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.02.06 08:21:00 -
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ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Just because Z platoon is the best caldari group doesn't mean every awox account stems from them. Anyways z platoons not going away anytime soon so no bpos for u.=ƒÿó You're just trolling now dude. There are places to do friendly **** talk but this is serious.
MINA Longstrike wrote:Not sure if this is part of a continued smear campaign or valid complaints. I've prettymuch given up on FW - the game mode will forever be broken as long as zero matchmaking, queue-syncing and high-risk / low reward are parts of it. It needs to be overhauled... Again. This is not a smear campaign of any type, I've heard accounts of Lucent Echelon running into new players doing absolutely nothing during my break during the holidays. Upon my return recently I have found that they were telling the truth and not exaggerating.
But yes, I completely agree that FW needs a major revamp once again. There's not enough incentive to play. Long as hell que times, just to get stomped or redline a team in which either way results in an incredibly boring match.
I'd be nice if the losing team was rewarded on a commision basis while the winning team gets rewarded how we are rewarded now.
P.S. How is it that one Caldari player says Z-platoon doesn't exist and the other one claims they are still active?
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ACT1ON BASTARD
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.02.06 08:33:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Just because Z platoon is the best caldari group doesn't mean every awox account stems from them. Anyways z platoons not going away anytime soon so no bpos for u.=ƒÿó You're just trolling now dude. There are places to do friendly **** talk but this is serious. Really not that serious, because I know they're not doing what you're claiming. I think you're just pissed you can't win like the good ol days of gallente stomping. Maybe its time to convert.
Proud owner of 4 proto commandos and 3 proto sentinels. All except amarr sent, its a beginner heavy tbh.:p
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Dergle
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Posted - 2015.02.06 08:36:00 -
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First time I've heard of such douchbaggery... If I knew who in our Z Platoon caldari que sync channel was doing such things I would see to it that they were barred from our channel. So if you can provide me with some names I'd love to work this out.
Ignore your instincts at your peril.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.02.06 08:37:00 -
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Dergle wrote:First time I've heard of such douchbaggery... If I knew who in our Z Platoon caldari que sync channel was doing such things I would see to it that they were barred from our channel. So if you can provide me with some names I'd love to work this out. Much appreciated. I will list the AFK players and the adjacent players on the other side next time we or anyone else comes across from them.
Vote 'Keshava' for the new Gallente HAV name!
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Renolissa
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.06 08:43:00 -
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Sometimes I see players who buried in the wall and run, probably wearing a rubber band on the gamepad. I just kill them, no matter your opponent or enemy player. And yes, i agree, need fix it!
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Dergle
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Posted - 2015.02.06 08:45:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Dergle wrote:First time I've heard of such douchbaggery... If I knew who in our Z Platoon caldari que sync channel was doing such things I would see to it that they were barred from our channel. So if you can provide me with some names I'd love to work this out. Much appreciated. I will list the AFK players and the adjacent players on the other side next time we or anyone else comes across from them. and I admit, there is a chance this could be lone wolf operations but I severely doubt players with enough competence to pull off something like this work in a closed group. I just look forward to figuring out who's behind this.
Thank you, please understand that it was not Z Platoon or any of it's core members performing such unhonorable deeds. I assure you that our intention (Aside from taking back Caldari Prime and crushing the Federation) is to put together q syncs I'm hopes that we come across another sync for one very competitive match, and ideally continue fighting one another.
I also wish to find out who is behind this.
Ignore your instincts at your peril.
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We are 138
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
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Posted - 2015.02.06 08:49:00 -
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I have squared up with Z multiple times, enough to get 86k cal lp and I can say every match was two full 6 man squads with a squad of 4 qsynced. Never was there talk of awoxing of afking we simply went in and played cooperatively and won most of the time. I can't say any thing about recent matches as I haven't squared with them In 3 weeks. That's just an insiders viewpoint, feel free to tear it down because it goes against your igotbeatbyscrubs rage
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