DUST Search - getting zero SP

Most Sneakiest wrote:

TIMMY DAVIS wrote:

recently finished match

I was in a match with a super squad that featured kaizuka sniper.

77-0 the winners only lost 3 lives.

3 guys on the losing team got 460, 350, 350 WP, the other 13 guys got a combined 305 WP, so 13 guys got no SP for being fodder.

Nameless III was 1-6 and only got 50 WP. S / He didn't get any SP for this? based on the monthly kill board they are #2. The losing team was not filled with chumps, it had quality players, is my point.

The winning team, one guy got less than 150 WP, only 25. three other just cleared it 185-155, everybody else on this team got 400-937 WP.

This is not unique. I'm in matches like this 4-5 times a day.

I understand that CCP wants to reduce bad behavior, but you are going to have to give the fodder something, or the fodder will stop playing. Taking away SP doesn't seem to be the way to do this. Please think up something else.

The system often populates the next 2-3-4 matches with the same 32 people, just in slightly different teams.

Neither of the two players mentioned have anything to do with this thread, I am simply using them as examples of the quality of the player. While the system puts me in matches against them regularly I am really not in their league.

Thanks for reading this.

I have a rather........unorthodox suggestion. CCP could simply make the limit for earning skill points be 150 warpoints or 3 deaths. You can die (by enemy only of course) 3 times and still earn sp (after 2mil lifetime sp you shouldnt be able to die these 3 times in a bpo starter fit, it should have to be a payed for suit.) This would allow the victims to still gain sp even when running into these full proto teams that are dominating ambush.

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TIMMY DAVIS Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 75	Posted - 2015.02.05 22:57:00 - [1] - Quote The End of Battle screen is showing that I'm getting zero SP for some battles. I'm not even getting WP to SP numbers. I got dropped into an Ambush very late, I only got 1 assist and 1 death and I got zero SP. I think I should have at least got the 25 for the assist. But I don't know if that's true with the upgrade. Because I died in the battle, maybe I'm supposed to lose some SP for that? I haven't exceeded my SP for the week. It happened again for a different character. I got 200 WP, mostly healing, but I died three or four times and got zero SP. I'm not trying to get any SP back or whatever. I'm trying to understand if this is a bug or part of a new SP calculation. Thanks for reading this.
Raptor Princess ALLOTEC INC 138	Posted - 2015.02.06 01:42:00 - [2] - Quote TIMMY DAVIS wrote: The End of Battle screen is showing that I'm getting zero SP for some battles. I'm not even getting WP to SP numbers. I got dropped into an Ambush very late, I only got 1 assist and 1 death and I got zero SP. I think I should have at least got the 25 for the assist. But I don't know if that's true with the upgrade. Because I died in the battle, maybe I'm supposed to lose some SP for that? I haven't exceeded my SP for the week. It happened again for a different character. I got 200 WP, mostly healing, but I died three or four times and got zero SP. I'm not trying to get any SP back or whatever. I'm trying to understand if this is a bug or part of a new SP calculation. Thanks for reading this. To get SP as a veteran, you need 150WP in the battle, which is why you got none in the first battle. I'm not sure about the second though.
TIMMY DAVIS Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 75	Posted - 2015.02.06 06:14:00 - [3] - Quote Is that in the Warload info page? Have the developers watched some of these matches?? Half of the Ambushes I'm in, a large majority of the players will get no SP then. When you get one of the Super Squads, it can often be 70 (or45) to 0 at the end. The winning team kills 80 and the losing team only kills 10, and regularly the top 5 on the losing team will have a combined 1000 WP and the rest of the team 200-300 among them. -- There is a problem going on, each domination I was in I got 1010 SP, no matter what I earned and 0 for all ambushes, again, no matter what I earned. But overall 150 WP to get any SP is ridiculous in the matches I'm stuck with. I was in matches at least 4 times against kaizu sniper (I'm sure I'm spelling the name wrong) today, but I didn't get 150 WP in any of them 1 with, 3 against. The super squad sniper was in killed over half opposing team every time. The rest of us got less than half of the WP of the lowest guy from their squad. Ambushes will no longer be populated when these guys are playing. If there is a super squad in the ambush - I'm gonna have to leave then. no SP, no ambush.
TIMMY DAVIS Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 75	Posted - 2015.02.06 22:01:00 - [4] - Quote recently finished match I was in a match with a super squad that featured kaizuka sniper. 77-0 the winners only lost 3 lives. 3 guys on the losing team got 460, 350, 350 WP, the other 13 guys got a combined 305 WP, so 13 guys got no SP for being fodder. Nameless III was 1-6 and only got 50 WP. S / He didn't get any SP for this? based on the monthly kill board they are #2. The losing team was not filled with chumps, it had quality players, is my point. The winning team, one guy got less than 150 WP, only 25. three other just cleared it 185-155, everybody else on this team got 400-937 WP. This is not unique. I'm in matches like this 4-5 times a day. I understand that CCP wants to reduce bad behavior, but you are going to have to give the fodder something, or the fodder will stop playing. Taking away SP doesn't seem to be the way to do this. Please think up something else. The system often populates the next 2-3-4 matches with the same 32 people, just in slightly different teams. Neither of the two players mentioned have anything to do with this thread, I am simply using them as examples of the quality of the player. While the system puts me in matches against them regularly I am really not in their league. Thanks for reading this.
Lahut K'mar Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 27	Posted - 2015.02.06 23:37:00 - [5] - Quote Get on my level. I just got 17 kills and 1611wp and earned only 1030sp. Horrifying? That's a strange way to spell "romantic". FIX THE WHEEL, CCP!
Most Sneakiest F0RSAKEN EMPIRE. 29	Posted - 2015.03.07 12:06:00 - [6] - Quote Lahut K'mar wrote: Get on my level. I just got 17 kills and 1611wp and earned only 1030sp. Don't see how this could happen unless you hit your sp cap. Noob [Kaalakiota Sniper Rifle] Most Sneakiest A few kills later... Most Sneakiest [Militia Sniper Rifle] Noob
Most Sneakiest F0RSAKEN EMPIRE. 29	Posted - 2015.03.07 12:08:00 - [7] - Quote TIMMY DAVIS wrote: recently finished match I was in a match with a super squad that featured kaizuka sniper. 77-0 the winners only lost 3 lives. 3 guys on the losing team got 460, 350, 350 WP, the other 13 guys got a combined 305 WP, so 13 guys got no SP for being fodder. Nameless III was 1-6 and only got 50 WP. S / He didn't get any SP for this? based on the monthly kill board they are #2. The losing team was not filled with chumps, it had quality players, is my point. The winning team, one guy got less than 150 WP, only 25. three other just cleared it 185-155, everybody else on this team got 400-937 WP. This is not unique. I'm in matches like this 4-5 times a day. I understand that CCP wants to reduce bad behavior, but you are going to have to give the fodder something, or the fodder will stop playing. Taking away SP doesn't seem to be the way to do this. Please think up something else. The system often populates the next 2-3-4 matches with the same 32 people, just in slightly different teams. Neither of the two players mentioned have anything to do with this thread, I am simply using them as examples of the quality of the player. While the system puts me in matches against them regularly I am really not in their league. Thanks for reading this. kaizuka and his squad of ravenous protos are rather easy to run into (and magically keep running into) but kaizuka himself isn't the most invincible of players when I can countersnipe him with an MLT sniper. Noob [Kaalakiota Sniper Rifle] Most Sneakiest A few kills later... Most Sneakiest [Militia Sniper Rifle] Noob
TIMMY DAVIS Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 80	Posted - 2015.03.08 07:00:00 - [8] - Quote I'm really not trying to get the lowdown on how to kill a particular guy. There was some sort of issue with SP, and also CCP changed how SP was given out. So 2) a real game change and 1) a real technical problem. These guys were just being used as examples. I'm not trying to pick on them or raise them on a pedestal, I play against and with them most days of the week. I could have used JacKrauser or DaveCollins (I'm not spelling either of those exactly right either.) Or a couple of dozen other people. It just so happened that those two were in a perfect example of the blob. On more than one occasion I've seen more than 16 players on the 2 teams not get SP. These were, I think, in 50 person ambushes. When I've been in such matches, and am on the losing side, I'm getting decent salvage most of the time. Some Dropsuits or not obscure sidearms or Heavy weapon I can't use yet, warbarge stuff or parts. Thanks for reading this
Most Sneakiest F0RSAKEN EMPIRE. 35	Posted - 2015.03.14 04:39:00 - [9] - Quote TIMMY DAVIS wrote: recently finished match I was in a match with a super squad that featured kaizuka sniper. 77-0 the winners only lost 3 lives. 3 guys on the losing team got 460, 350, 350 WP, the other 13 guys got a combined 305 WP, so 13 guys got no SP for being fodder. Nameless III was 1-6 and only got 50 WP. S / He didn't get any SP for this? based on the monthly kill board they are #2. The losing team was not filled with chumps, it had quality players, is my point. The winning team, one guy got less than 150 WP, only 25. three other just cleared it 185-155, everybody else on this team got 400-937 WP. This is not unique. I'm in matches like this 4-5 times a day. I understand that CCP wants to reduce bad behavior, but you are going to have to give the fodder something, or the fodder will stop playing. Taking away SP doesn't seem to be the way to do this. Please think up something else. The system often populates the next 2-3-4 matches with the same 32 people, just in slightly different teams. Neither of the two players mentioned have anything to do with this thread, I am simply using them as examples of the quality of the player. While the system puts me in matches against them regularly I am really not in their league. Thanks for reading this. I have a rather........unorthodox suggestion. CCP could simply make the limit for earning skill points be 150 warpoints or 3 deaths. You can die (by enemy only of course) 3 times and still earn sp (after 2mil lifetime sp you shouldnt be able to die these 3 times in a bpo starter fit, it should have to be a payed for suit.) This would allow the victims to still gain sp even when running into these full proto teams that are dominating ambush. Noob [Kaalakiota Sniper Rifle] Most Sneakiest A few kills later... Most Sneakiest [Militia Sniper Rifle] Noob
Raptor Princess ALLOTEC INC 167	Posted - 2015.03.14 07:20:00 - [10] - Quote Most Sneakiest wrote: TIMMY DAVIS wrote: recently finished match I was in a match with a super squad that featured kaizuka sniper. 77-0 the winners only lost 3 lives. 3 guys on the losing team got 460, 350, 350 WP, the other 13 guys got a combined 305 WP, so 13 guys got no SP for being fodder. Nameless III was 1-6 and only got 50 WP. S / He didn't get any SP for this? based on the monthly kill board they are #2. The losing team was not filled with chumps, it had quality players, is my point. The winning team, one guy got less than 150 WP, only 25. three other just cleared it 185-155, everybody else on this team got 400-937 WP. This is not unique. I'm in matches like this 4-5 times a day. I understand that CCP wants to reduce bad behavior, but you are going to have to give the fodder something, or the fodder will stop playing. Taking away SP doesn't seem to be the way to do this. Please think up something else. The system often populates the next 2-3-4 matches with the same 32 people, just in slightly different teams. Neither of the two players mentioned have anything to do with this thread, I am simply using them as examples of the quality of the player. While the system puts me in matches against them regularly I am really not in their league. Thanks for reading this. I have a rather........unorthodox suggestion. CCP could simply make the limit for earning skill points be 150 warpoints or 3 deaths. You can die (by enemy only of course) 3 times and still earn sp (after 2mil lifetime sp you shouldnt be able to die these 3 times in a bpo starter fit, it should have to be a payed for suit.) This would allow the victims to still gain sp even when running into these full proto teams that are dominating ambush. That will make afk players return - you could kill them on several matches continually due to the spawn location auto selected for deployment at the start of the match. Worst I saw was 40+ deaths in a match.



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