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Pisidon Gmen
Ivory Vanguard
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Posted - 2015.02.05 18:43:00 -
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whats the deal no sp gained in a ambush??????????????? we get proto stomped and get no reward for trying to play??? got 110 wp 1 game and 70 the next and no sp reward untell matching gets better how is it fair to punish the losing team???????????????? did the players on the wining team who got less then 200 wp also get no sp they went 0 and 0 with less then 100 wp also after all it was only the top 6 players running full proto in pub that did 90% of the work yea don"t reward the players who do nothing no kills no deaths no war point but don't take away sp from the players that are trying |
pumping up
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
158
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Posted - 2015.02.05 18:50:00 -
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Pisidon Gmen wrote:whats the deal no sp gained in a ambush??????????????? we get proto stomped and get no reward for trying to play??? got 110 wp 1 game and 70 the next and no sp reward untell matching gets better how is it fair to punish the losing team???????????????? did the players on the wining team who got less then 200 wp also get no sp they went 0 and 0 with less then 100 wp also after all it was only the top 6 players running full proto in pub that did 90% of the work yea don"t reward the players who do nothing no kills no deaths no war point but don't take away sp from the players that are trying Welcome in the VET-bracket. You will have to do some more stuff to gain enough WP to get SP.
Help me gain the C-II Dropsuit
Pilot & Saboteur
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Copharus Arkana
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
38
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Posted - 2015.02.05 18:56:00 -
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You want SP? Maybe you should try this new thing called trying to win. Or would you rather give up and QQ? |
Forlorn Destrier
Incorruptibles
3250
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Posted - 2015.02.05 18:56:00 -
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Pisidon Gmen wrote:whats the deal no sp gained in a ambush??????????????? we get proto stomped and get no reward for trying to play??? got 110 wp 1 game and 70 the next and no sp reward untell matching gets better how is it fair to punish the losing team???????????????? did the players on the wining team who got less then 200 wp also get no sp they went 0 and 0 with less then 100 wp also after all it was only the top 6 players running full proto in pub that did 90% of the work yea don"t reward the players who do nothing no kills no deaths no war point but don't take away sp from the players that are trying
You have to have a minimum WP total to get any SP. You lost - you should be punished. Even in Ambush, you can do things like set uplinks in strategic places, hack installations, set nanohives, pull out a logi and revive/repair teammates. Adapt to the situation if you aren't doing well. That is now, and has always been, the name of the game. Those that fail to adapt, die.
I'm ok with not getting SP if I know I didn't perform well - and if that is the result of the other team, then more credit to them. I'll do better next time to EARN the reward, instead of expecting a handout.
I am the Forgotten Warhorse, a Lord of Lightning
Havok is my Destiny
I am Incorruptible
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Meisterjager Jagermeister
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Posted - 2015.02.05 18:57:00 -
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Yeah, I knew this would happen. Get stomped and have low wp= earn nothing. Now there is greater reason to leave match early. If you know you are getting nothing at match end, why stay? One sided matches will quickly spiral out of control as players leave without being replaced by Scotty, and the stomping intensifies for the losing team now short on players.
AKA - StarVenger- Horizons' Edge
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Forlorn Destrier
Incorruptibles
3251
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Posted - 2015.02.05 18:59:00 -
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Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote:Yeah, I knew this would happen. Get stomped and have low wp= earn nothing. Now there is greater reason to leave match early. If you know you are getting nothing at match end, why stay? One sided matches will quickly spiral out of control as players leave without being replaced by Scotty, and the stomping intensifies for the losing team now short on players.
Pride? Honor? Not being labeled a quitter who only plays when he's promised to win? If you never go against better players, how will you improve? If you only play lesser players, are you worthy of respect?
I am the Forgotten Warhorse, a Lord of Lightning
Havok is my Destiny
I am Incorruptible
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Pisidon Gmen
Ivory Vanguard
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Posted - 2015.02.05 19:07:00 -
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dont comment if you dont see the problem when 1 side dosen't lose clones in a bush its a matching problem not a skill problem all this dose is make losing side to spam up-links to get pts to get wp |
Meisterjager Jagermeister
783
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Posted - 2015.02.05 19:09:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Pride? Honor? Not being labeled a quitter who only plays when he's promised to win? If you never go against better players, how will you improve? If you only play lesser players, are you worthy of respect? Yes, all true. But I'm speaking in general. There will be enough who do leave to have this effect
AKA - StarVenger- Horizons' Edge
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REDBACK96USMC
Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance
127
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Posted - 2015.02.05 19:10:00 -
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Dude, I was eating popcorn, sipping my Coca Cola and playing one handed in a bush and still managed to get past the minimum. I suck at Dust too. Actually do something next time. |
Pisidon Gmen
Ivory Vanguard
54
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Posted - 2015.02.05 19:14:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Pisidon Gmen wrote:whats the deal no sp gained in a ambush??????????????? we get proto stomped and get no reward for trying to play??? got 110 wp 1 game and 70 the next and no sp reward untell matching gets better how is it fair to punish the losing team???????????????? did the players on the wining team who got less then 200 wp also get no sp they went 0 and 0 with less then 100 wp also after all it was only the top 6 players running full proto in pub that did 90% of the work yea don"t reward the players who do nothing no kills no deaths no war point but don't take away sp from the players that are trying You have to have a minimum WP total to get any SP. Even in Ambush, you can do things like set uplinks in strategic places, hack installations, set nanohives, pull out a logi and revive/repair teammates. Adapt to the situation if you aren't doing well. That is now, and has always been, the name of the game. Those that fail to adapt, die. I'm ok with not getting SP if I know I didn't perform well - and if that is the result of the other team, then more credit to them. I'll do better next time to EARN the reward, instead of expecting a handout. You lost - you should be punished until you prove yourself worthy of a reward. min wp??? crappy matching is why we lost top player only had 500 wp no kills guess he spammed uplinks no skill there i came in heavy i only get ast and kill pts i killed 2 proto suits and this is about ambush no pts to hack no installations or very few yea i could spam uplinks or hives to get points but i wanted to kill some clones not b a logie point hog i think ccp had there head whare the sun dont shine how dose 0 wp when your trying to play incurage any1 to play i had 5 players leave the game between these 2 battles |
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Hijk Ratway
We Die A Lot
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Posted - 2015.02.05 19:16:00 -
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The problem is that it happens the other way too. I was on a team that routed the Reds, finished 8th with a horrible 1/1/3 plus a hack. 125 wp, 160k ISk and no sp. the stompers on my team were wiping reds out and I was running around looking for things to do, yet I get nothing even in a win. This will not help keep new players nor make the game more enjoyable. |
Pisidon Gmen
Ivory Vanguard
54
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Posted - 2015.02.05 19:16:00 -
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REDBACK96USMC wrote:Dude, I was eating popcorn, sipping my Coca Cola and playing one handed in a bush and still managed to get past the minimum. I suck at Dust too. Actually do something next time.
guess u was on the wining team and i dont give a rats $%#@$ how any 1 player dose in any game mode punishing players who are getting any war pioint in a 3 min bush battle is a crappy game idea think new players jurk we need new players unless the big corps just want to play with them selfs |
Nirwanda Vaughns
1350
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Posted - 2015.02.05 19:22:00 -
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Happened earlier today too for me with one my corp mates. he's a 45m SP vet and got 125 SP due to a stomp. somewhere else i read on forums it happened to a group of people, some of which left the game again. i was in a game just after DT which was a stomp and the bottom 6 guys had 0-100 WP. dunno if they came in late or just got stomped really badly but its making ambush pointless to play.
not only that but i'm sufferign the SP exhausted bug so not worth me playing. thankfully i've done my missions on my main but i cba with rest today. the recent patch has been a bit deflating, spend money or fall behind and not get any of the unique BPOs. it might be the patch that finally has me take the PS4 out the box and go try something else
Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience
proud C-II bpo owner
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Copharus Arkana
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
38
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Posted - 2015.02.05 19:23:00 -
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Pisidon Gmen wrote:dont comment if you dont see the problem when 1 side dosen't lose clones in a bush its a matching problem not a skill problem all this dose is make losing side to spam up-links to get pts to get wp No, it IS a skill problem. Actually it is a mind set problem. You believe your going to get stomped, you get stomped. |
Pisidon Gmen
Ivory Vanguard
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Posted - 2015.02.05 19:28:00 -
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Copharus Arkana wrote:Pisidon Gmen wrote:dont comment if you dont see the problem when 1 side dosen't lose clones in a bush its a matching problem not a skill problem all this dose is make losing side to spam up-links to get pts to get wp No, it IS a skill problem. Actually it is a mind set problem. You believe your going to get stomped, you get stomped.
no its matching when 1 side compleatly runs over the outher with proto gear and several of your team is starter corps and its not about the loss or the stomping i killed 2 protos with just anadv suit but in a match that is only 3 to 5 min how is there a min war point req.? THIS IS ABOUT KEEPING PLAYERS IN THE GAME NOT RUNNING NOOBS OFF |
DootDoot
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
361
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Posted - 2015.02.05 19:28:00 -
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This post is full of trolls!!!!!!!!!
Common... How long have you guys played this game. A 50 clone ambush ends stupid quick... and are on huge maps.
Often the 50 clone ambush will spawn the two teams on opposite sides of this huge map.. By the time you find someone a couple idiot blueberrys will have ran at the enemy group 15-30 times with MLT suits...
Even if your decent and don't die it can be a chore to get the points in a stomp..
We can't control our team choice.
80 clone ambushes? Sure.. Close spawns, Installations and structures to hack. Easy points. |
Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
1925
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Posted - 2015.02.05 19:31:00 -
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Pisidon Gmen wrote:whats the deal no sp gained in a ambush??????????????? we get proto stomped and get no reward for trying to play??? got 110 wp 1 game and 70 the next and no sp reward untell matching gets better how is it fair to punish the losing team???????????????? did the players on the wining team who got less then 200 wp also get no sp they went 0 and 0 with less then 100 wp also after all it was only the top 6 players running full proto in pub that did 90% of the work yea don"t reward the players who do nothing no kills no deaths no war point but don't take away sp from the players that are trying I seen you out earlier with eph. You guys are pretty sad. I watched you redline yourselves. My squad came fresh out of the academy. Both of em.
Who wants some?
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Pisidon Gmen
Ivory Vanguard
54
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Posted - 2015.02.05 19:33:00 -
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Hijk Ratway wrote:The problem is that it happens the other way too. I was on a team that routed the Reds, finished 8th with a horrible 1/1/3 plus a hack. 125 wp, 160k ISk and no sp. the stompers on my team were wiping reds out and I was running around looking for things to do, yet I get nothing even in a win. This will not help keep new players nor make the game more enjoyable. EXACTLY MY POINT SP should be given to players who score points even if all they do is kill 1 peace of equipment also playerswhodie inthebattle should get somthing (not a lot ) players who go afk and go 0 kills 0 war points and 0 deaths there the ones who don't deserve any sp or loypts |
Pisidon Gmen
Ivory Vanguard
54
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Posted - 2015.02.05 19:40:00 -
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Darken-Soul wrote:Pisidon Gmen wrote:whats the deal no sp gained in a ambush??????????????? we get proto stomped and get no reward for trying to play??? got 110 wp 1 game and 70 the next and no sp reward untell matching gets better how is it fair to punish the losing team???????????????? did the players on the wining team who got less then 200 wp also get no sp they went 0 and 0 with less then 100 wp also after all it was only the top 6 players running full proto in pub that did 90% of the work yea don"t reward the players who do nothing no kills no deaths no war point but don't take away sp from the players that are trying I seen you out earlier with eph. You guys are pretty sad. I watched you redline yourselves. My squad came fresh out of the academy. Both of em.
first this was about ambush not a skirm no red line in ambush
fresh out of the academy is a lame idea when its players who know exactly what to skill in to and if its the battle i think it was we had 10 random players in that game including 1 in a solo squad locked my squad did ok for only having 2 mics in it but when you have no team help solo players give up fast and hide in the red line so yea we got red lined in less then 5 min in that skirm |
Pisidon Gmen
Ivory Vanguard
54
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Posted - 2015.02.05 19:43:00 -
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DootDoot wrote:This post is full of trolls!!!!!!!!!
Common... How long have you guys played this game. A 50 clone ambush ends stupid quick... and are on huge maps.
Often the 50 clone ambush will spawn the two teams on opposite sides of this huge map.. By the time you find someone a couple idiot blueberrys will have ran at the enemy group 15-30 times with MLT suits...
Even if your decent and don't die it can be a chore to get the points in a stomp..
We can't control our team mates the game puts us with.
80 clone ambushes? Sure.. Close spawns, Installations and structures to hack. Easy points.
But rolling the dice to get a 50 or 80? is it worth it?.. 50 Clone ambushes need to be tweaked. This, should be obvious. Also quickly, before the game mode becomes a ghost town.
FINELY SOME ONE WHO HAS A CLUE it not about me or you its about the game and keeping players in it |
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Pisidon Gmen
Ivory Vanguard
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Posted - 2015.02.05 20:02:00 -
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Copharus Arkana wrote:You want SP? Maybe you should try this new thing called trying to win. Or would you rather give up and QQ? just cause u win doesn't mean u get sp maybe you b such a troll |
Assert Dominance
Ahrendee Mercenaries
823
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Posted - 2015.02.05 20:30:00 -
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the lesson learned here class is dont play ambush. k.
LogicGäó
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TritusX
PH4NT0M5
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Posted - 2015.02.05 20:33:00 -
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New players don't have this WP restriction. Vets do because they simply have the advantage already. If they want to earn more of an advantage, they have to earn it. If you aren't earning 200+ WP in a match, then you don't get SP. You at this point have enough SP to survive on your own. New players don't have that restriction so they can catch up to the vets.
Forced Death
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Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
2052
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Posted - 2015.02.05 20:34:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote:Yeah, I knew this would happen. Get stomped and have low wp= earn nothing. Now there is greater reason to leave match early. If you know you are getting nothing at match end, why stay? One sided matches will quickly spiral out of control as players leave without being replaced by Scotty, and the stomping intensifies for the losing team now short on players. Pride? Honor? Not being labeled a quitter who only plays when he's promised to win? If you never go against better players, how will you improve? If you only play lesser players, are you worthy of respect? Pride and honor don't help the dipsh!t blueberries play any better. Not wasting my time is more important to me than some asinine e-bushido.
Why does everyone ignore the point?
[RYJC]
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RayRay James
State of Purgatory General Tso's Alliance
984
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Posted - 2015.02.05 20:35:00 -
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Hijk Ratway wrote:The problem is that it happens the other way too. I was on a team that routed the Reds, finished 8th with a horrible 1/1/3 plus a hack. 125 wp, 160k ISk and no sp. the stompers on my team were wiping reds out and I was running around looking for things to do, yet I get nothing even in a win. This will not help keep new players nor make the game more enjoyable.
You did get something, you got isk. You didn't get SP, which is fine, because you didn't do enough to earn it. I had a match I got 100 WP, got isk, no sp. Oh Well, that 1.5K SP isn't going to change anything anyways.
Suck it up, it's an attempt to kill off the AFKers which is much more important. Having a blueberry do SOMETHING is better than a vet doing NOTHING and getting sp |
Pisidon Gmen
Ivory Vanguard
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Posted - 2015.02.05 20:43:00 -
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RayRay James wrote:Hijk Ratway wrote:The problem is that it happens the other way too. I was on a team that routed the Reds, finished 8th with a horrible 1/1/3 plus a hack. 125 wp, 160k ISk and no sp. the stompers on my team were wiping reds out and I was running around looking for things to do, yet I get nothing even in a win. This will not help keep new players nor make the game more enjoyable. You did get something, you got isk. You didn't get SP, which is fine, because you didn't do enough to earn it. I had a match I got 100 WP, got isk, no sp. Oh Well, that 1.5K SP isn't going to change anything anyways. Suck it up, it's an attempt to kill off the AFKers which is much more important. Having a blueberry do SOMETHING is better than a vet doing NOTHING and getting sp
YEA afk as in no points no deaths r u dumm if i die and i kill some one i am trying doing something dosent nessarly get you points do you want every one spaming uplinks????????????0 0 0 is no points doing something needs to have reward define enuff to earn it i drop 1 uplink it lasts the battle and get 500 wp through the battle didn't fire my gun did nothing except hide the rest of the battle but i get sp noob dies 10 times damaging red dots but not enuff to kill them he gets 0 sp do you see the problem with this crappy idea yet??????? trying to win vs afk no points no deaths is different |
Hijk Ratway
We Die A Lot
1
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Posted - 2015.02.05 20:51:00 -
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Fair enough, point taken but I believe there are better ways to gauge afk as I certainly was not. Heck, if they can track the meters I run for a daily surely they can spot someone who stays in the drop ship all game and does nothing.
As far as altering the vet advantage, I have played 3 months and rarely am better than 1:1, so it fails there too as the rich get richer while average players may suffer. Granted generally it is not hard to get 150 points, but it seems like a sloppy / lazy way to fix afk or the so advantage (I just cracked 10 mil) |
Regis Blackbird
DUST University Ivy League
614
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Posted - 2015.02.05 20:51:00 -
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I somehow managed to stay above the 150WP limits in all pubstomps (Ambush) yesterday. (God knows how)
Ambush is not really my game as I am more of a support person, and generally suck at killing. However, before Warlords a Ambush game with 100WP would Give me minimal SP anyway. (And I got roughly 40,000,000 total.... So yeah... No big difference for me)
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Pisidon Gmen
Ivory Vanguard
54
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Posted - 2015.02.05 20:55:00 -
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Regis Blackbird wrote:I somehow managed to stay above the 150WP limits in all pubstomps (Ambush) yesterday. (God knows how) Ambush is not really my game as I am more of a support person, and generally suck at killing. However, before Warlords a Ambush game with 100WP would Give me minimal SP anyway. (And I got roughly 40,000,000 total.... So yeah... No big difference for me) its not about you or me its about all dust players noobs to vets 0 sp when u are trying but dont make wp do to what ever vs doing nothing |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
3136
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Posted - 2015.02.05 21:13:00 -
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Pisidon Gmen wrote:whats the deal no sp gained in a ambush???????????????
Don't play ambush, it's a terrible mode anyways and even if it did give rewards you shouldn't play a mode where you can't consistently go 150WP+
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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